 I got a chance to play D&D 4th edition today, It was awful, as predicted |
 Jun 6 2008, 01:41 AM
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Some of my friends were able to get there hands on PDFs of the 4th edition D&D rulebooks. I was excited to get a chance to play it, if only because the product has not yet been officially released yet.
As the topic description states 4th ed. is awful. It can be summed up in a series of three points: 1) Everyone is a variant of the 3rd edition Warlock. 2) There is no fluff anymore. 3) It is WoW. I blame Keith Baker, one of the chief designers and the creater of the terrible Eberon campaign setting. Everything he comes up with is stupid and 4th ed is no exception. My question is why WOTC put the designer of a campaign setting that has not been selling well in charge of creating their new rules set? |
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spica2501 I got a chance to play D&D 4th edition today Jun 6 2008, 01:41 AM
Alex Because that is what WOTC does. They have never r... Jun 6 2008, 03:00 AM Aaron I just rolled up a wizard for the game I'll be... Jun 6 2008, 03:50 AM Nigel I've looked at all the PDFs, and I agree about... Jun 6 2008, 03:56 AM imperialus I'm going to be picking up the core books toda... Jun 6 2008, 04:13 PM bishop186 My group got our hands on the PDFs a week ago and ... Jun 6 2008, 04:42 PM
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spica2501 QUOTE (bishop186 @ Jun 6 2008, 12:42 PM) ... Jun 9 2008, 04:15 AM Caine Hazen QUOTE (spica2501 @ Jun 8 2008, 11:15 PM) ... Jun 9 2008, 12:46 PM bishop186 QUOTE (spica2501 @ Jun 8 2008, 11:15 PM) ... Jun 10 2008, 11:05 AM raphabonelli QUOTE (bishop186 @ Jun 10 2008, 07:05 AM)... Jun 10 2008, 12:04 PM Aaron I don't think the idea of cards as a game aid ... Jun 6 2008, 05:11 PM Wounded Ronin Nisarg/RPGPundit always has fun things to say abou... Jun 6 2008, 05:54 PM Particle_Beam Hehe, yes, true, it's always funny to read abo... Jun 6 2008, 07:45 PM Nightwalker450 I'm actually a fan of the multi-classing.. If ... Jun 6 2008, 08:50 PM Mercer QUOTE (Nightwalker450 @ Jun 6 2008, 08:50... Jun 7 2008, 03:17 PM Particle_Beam Multiclassing got changed, once more. In D&D 2... Jun 6 2008, 09:30 PM tete QUOTE (spica2501 @ Jun 6 2008, 01:41 AM) ... Jun 6 2008, 09:39 PM Aaron QUOTE (tete @ Jun 6 2008, 04:39 PM) I als... Jun 7 2008, 05:15 AM FrankTrollman QUOTE (Aaron @ Jun 7 2008, 12:15 AM) Good... Jun 8 2008, 12:42 PM Smed I haven't seen the 4th edition stuff yet, and ... Jun 7 2008, 04:13 PM Fabe QUOTE (Smed @ Jun 7 2008, 12:13 PM) I
Ebe... Jun 8 2008, 02:55 AM Wounded Ronin Also, LOL at how this thread with its little negat... Jun 7 2008, 09:09 PM Aaron QUOTE (Wounded Ronin @ Jun 7 2008, 04:09 ... Jun 7 2008, 10:27 PM Adam QUOTE (spica2501 @ Jun 5 2008, 09:41 PM) ... Jun 7 2008, 10:07 PM Alex Personally, when I need a my fix of a game using a... Jun 8 2008, 12:54 AM Wounded Ronin QUOTE (Alex @ Jun 7 2008, 08:54 PM) Perso... Jun 8 2008, 03:42 AM Snow_Fox Personally we never really felt a need to 'upg... Jun 8 2008, 02:20 AM apollo124 So for you who already have the new PHB, did it co... Jun 8 2008, 04:34 AM Fortune QUOTE (apollo124 @ Jun 8 2008, 02:34 PM) ... Jun 8 2008, 05:56 AM imperialus QUOTE (Fortune @ Jun 7 2008, 10:56 PM) No... Jun 8 2008, 04:17 PM Fabe QUOTE (apollo124 @ Jun 8 2008, 12:34 AM) ... Jun 8 2008, 05:34 PM Wounded Ronin QUOTE (Fabe @ Jun 8 2008, 01:34 PM) Besid... Jun 8 2008, 05:38 PM Fabe QUOTE (Wounded Ronin @ Jun 8 2008, 01:38 ... Jun 8 2008, 06:22 PM Particle_Beam Ehr, you're not really going to tell us that y... Jun 8 2008, 04:58 AM Dumori I hate the way D&D 4e has become you want to d... Jun 8 2008, 01:25 PM imperialus Well in a lot of ways that's also a return to ... Jun 8 2008, 04:02 PM Dumori @ imperialus by crafting chars I mean my warforged... Jun 8 2008, 07:37 PM Kyoto Kid ...after slugging through this thread (BTW, what i... Jun 8 2008, 11:04 PM apollo124 (Leaning on wood cane) "Why, back in my day s... Jun 9 2008, 01:36 AM Larme I got a chance to play too. And despite the radic... Jun 9 2008, 01:45 AM FrankTrollman QUOTE (Larme @ Jun 8 2008, 08:45 PM) Figh... Jun 9 2008, 06:02 AM imperialus A lot of the old fluff was pretty hit or miss thou... Jun 9 2008, 05:38 AM Particle_Beam A level 1 Fighter has far more things to chose fro... Jun 9 2008, 10:57 AM Fuchs I am intrigued by the "rituals". I'l... Jun 9 2008, 11:08 AM FrankTrollman QUOTE (Fuchs @ Jun 9 2008, 06:08 AM) I am... Jun 9 2008, 12:54 PM Fuchs QUOTE (FrankTrollman @ Jun 9 2008, 02:54 ... Jun 9 2008, 01:10 PM Particle_Beam Disarm, Grapple and Trip only got used when you ha... Jun 9 2008, 02:09 PM last_of_the_great_mikeys I only wish they'd strip Ed Greenwood of all h... Jun 9 2008, 07:26 PM Fortune Shrug. To each their own. I quite like most of Ed ... Jun 9 2008, 09:54 PM Dumori Ed Greenwood has all ways been a story teller the ... Jun 9 2008, 10:06 PM hyzmarca My question is, does the Spelunker build still wor... Jun 9 2008, 11:41 PM FrankTrollman QUOTE (hyzmarca @ Jun 9 2008, 06:41 PM) M... Jun 10 2008, 06:29 AM Fortune To each his own. I hated Dark Sun! Jun 10 2008, 09:14 PM spica2501 Wow, I didn't know about that dragon thing in ... Jun 10 2008, 11:01 PM Kyoto Kid ...of all the settings I liked Forgotten Realms th... Jun 11 2008, 06:14 AM Particle_Beam Meh, your average hack'neyed fantasy setting w... Jun 11 2008, 06:45 AM Fuchs I'd not call the Realms a "hodgepot of ri... Jun 11 2008, 07:18 AM Hatspur I just hope that the majority of the old d20 books... Jun 11 2008, 04:31 PM Wounded Ronin Duurh, what happens when you use Raise Dead on som... Jun 11 2008, 05:41 PM Aaron I'm guessing that "you canā€... Jun 11 2008, 06:16 PM Particle_Beam Normally, you can't raise somebody from the de... Jun 11 2008, 06:23 PM Wounded Ronin LOL, watch pheonixes become endangered speices. Jun 11 2008, 09:05 PM FrankTrollman Meh. Hardly any of the "Nature" rituals ... Jun 11 2008, 09:10 PM Particle_Beam Perhaps. And perhaps the theoretical Reincarnation... Jun 11 2008, 10:26 PM GrepZen The "Council of Wyrms" (CW) setting was ... Jun 13 2008, 12:39 PM paws2sky QUOTE (GrepZen @ Jun 13 2008, 07:39 AM) W... Jun 13 2008, 02:17 PM hyzmarca QUOTE (paws2sky @ Jun 13 2008, 10:17 AM) ... Jun 14 2008, 12:21 AM Wounded Ronin QUOTE (GrepZen @ Jun 13 2008, 07:39 AM) I... Jun 14 2008, 12:04 AM GrepZen QUOTE (Wounded Ronin @ Jun 14 2008, 12:04... Jun 14 2008, 03:01 PM Particle_Beam "Kill the monster" has always been the b... Jun 14 2008, 05:03 PM FrankTrollman The problem for me isn't that they took the fi... Jun 14 2008, 08:11 PM Particle_Beam Oh man, FrankTrollmann, if you're still adaman... Jun 14 2008, 11:58 PM Wounded Ronin QUOTE (Particle_Beam @ Jun 14 2008, 06:58... Jun 15 2008, 12:13 AM hyzmarca QUOTE (Particle_Beam @ Jun 14 2008, 07:58... Jun 15 2008, 01:51 AM Particle_Beam Yes, perhaps, if you feel threatened to it. Howeve... Jun 15 2008, 12:43 AM Wounded Ronin QUOTE (Particle_Beam @ Jun 14 2008, 07:43... Jun 15 2008, 06:18 AM bishop186 I'm sorry, I might just be missing it, but wha... Jun 15 2008, 05:59 AM FrankTrollman QUOTE (bishop186 @ Jun 15 2008, 12:59 AM)... Jun 15 2008, 06:46 AM bishop186 QUOTE (FrankTrollman @ Jun 15 2008, 12:46... Jun 15 2008, 02:12 PM FrankTrollman QUOTE (bishop186 @ Jun 15 2008, 09:12 AM)... Jun 15 2008, 03:41 PM Bull Ok kids, chill out. THere's a whole bunch of ... Jun 15 2008, 06:51 AM Malicant Frank, it might come as a suprise, but "autos... Jun 16 2008, 01:19 PM bishop186 Okay, I'll give you that, then. I don't fi... Jun 16 2008, 02:55 PM deek I have to agree with you, combat does seem to last... Jun 17 2008, 06:05 PM FrankTrollman QUOTE As for skill challenges...that's really ... Jun 17 2008, 06:30 PM Wounded Ronin QUOTE (FrankTrollman @ Jun 17 2008, 01:30... Jun 17 2008, 11:22 PM Fuchs So adjust the difficulty. Jun 17 2008, 06:34 PM deek Ummm...yeah, Frank, why is the DC a 20 at first le... Jun 17 2008, 07:00 PM FrankTrollman QUOTE (deek @ Jun 17 2008, 03:00 PM) Ummm... Jun 17 2008, 08:59 PM last_of_the_great_mikeys But we CAN hack and slash! So, when we fail th... Jun 17 2008, 07:41 PM deek Hack and Slash = roll dice, use predetermined powe... Jun 17 2008, 08:00 PM Fuchs Well, as I said - lower the DC. People did the mat... Jun 18 2008, 07:17 AM FrankTrollman QUOTE (Fuchs @ Jun 18 2008, 03:17 AM) Wel... Jun 18 2008, 07:34 AM Fuchs The way I see it, it's a more codified system ... Jun 18 2008, 08:35 AM FrankTrollman QUOTE (Fuchs @ Jun 18 2008, 04:35 AM) Fra... Jun 18 2008, 08:59 AM Wolfx Frank,
I greatly appreciat the fact that you have... Jun 18 2008, 10:21 AM Critias QUOTE (Wolfx @ Jun 18 2008, 05:21 AM) I u... Jun 18 2008, 10:28 AM deek I'd have to agree with Fuchs...chaining togeth... Jun 18 2008, 12:49 PM Aaron Any thoughts on using the system they use for dise... Jun 18 2008, 01:27 PM  |
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