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JonathanC
post Jun 9 2008, 06:12 AM
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I just realized recently that there are no actual game effects for being under the influence of BTLs. Every other brain-bender mentioned in the books has stats, effects for when you come down, the whole nine yards. BTLs are just another addiction in terms of game mechanics though, so mostly a BTL addict just has to worry about what happens if they can't get a fix. There are some general mentions of long-term effects, but no real mechanics to back it up. Is this an oversight, or are they going to roll BTLs into the Hacker book?
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- JonathanC   BTL Rules   Jun 9 2008, 06:12 AM
- - Earlydawn   Always bugged me too. I don't think it's g...   Jun 9 2008, 06:59 AM
- - paws2sky   It would make a lot of sense for detailed BTL info...   Jun 9 2008, 01:11 PM
- - CanRay   The thing is, when you BTL, it's like going VR...   Jun 9 2008, 01:26 PM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (CanRay @ Jun 9 2008, 04:26 PM) The...   Jun 9 2008, 01:42 PM
- - CanRay   Ah, right. Forgot it was only Dreamchips that do ...   Jun 9 2008, 01:50 PM
- - paws2sky   Yeah, Dreamchips definitely seem to be the most fr...   Jun 9 2008, 02:29 PM
- - CircuitBoyBlue   I'd like to see rules for them just because wi...   Jun 9 2008, 04:42 PM
- - Wesley Street   What are the long-term effects of BTL usage, other...   Jun 9 2008, 04:57 PM
- - CanRay   Neurological damage due to the stress that the hig...   Jun 9 2008, 06:47 PM
|- - JonathanC   QUOTE (CanRay @ Jun 9 2008, 10:47 AM) Neu...   Jun 10 2008, 02:37 AM
- - last_of_the_great_mikeys   In 3rd edition they had Winternight's "Go...   Jun 9 2008, 07:48 PM
- - CanRay   In 4th Edition, I'm coming up with things wors...   Jun 9 2008, 08:20 PM
- - Mäx   I would most want to have somekind of rules for mo...   Jun 9 2008, 08:21 PM
- - CircuitBoyBlue   Now that I think about it, isn't there a Ghost...   Jun 9 2008, 09:05 PM
|- - Jaid   QUOTE (CircuitBoyBlue @ Jun 9 2008, 04:05...   Jun 9 2008, 09:12 PM
- - Sweaty Hippo   Being such a popular and prevalent drug, it's ...   Jun 9 2008, 10:09 PM
- - Chrysalis   You could just use the drugs rules as they are wri...   Jun 10 2008, 08:20 AM
- - CanRay   Negative side effects would depend on which Dreamc...   Jun 10 2008, 12:02 PM
- - Backgammon   In the Madrid Audan series by George Alec Effinger...   Jun 10 2008, 01:36 PM
- - Sir_Psycho   Well most chips don't really change much about...   Jun 10 2008, 01:49 PM
- - CanRay   Personally, I'm all for it being a totally RP ...   Jun 10 2008, 01:52 PM
- - Backgammon   No, I don't think chips should alter your stat...   Jun 10 2008, 05:25 PM
- - Wesley Street   <<Perhaps side-effects could include levels ...   Jun 10 2008, 05:45 PM
- - Jaid   really, by changing your brain chemistry and such,...   Jun 10 2008, 07:29 PM
- - Wesley Street   But does a BTL really change your brain chemistry?...   Jun 10 2008, 09:00 PM
- - Backgammon   Psychotropic Black ICE is a type of BTL, and it pe...   Jun 11 2008, 12:09 AM
- - CircuitBoyBlue   ASIST biofeedback can do pretty much anything a dr...   Jun 11 2008, 01:12 PM
- - Magus   If you slot a chip that terrifies you by inducing ...   Jun 11 2008, 01:31 PM
|- - CircuitBoyBlue   QUOTE (Magus @ Jun 11 2008, 08:31 AM) Rem...   Jun 11 2008, 04:18 PM
- - Wesley Street   Good points. I retract my theory.   Jun 11 2008, 02:09 PM
- - Magus   Then what's the use of the SIM RIG? It records...   Jun 11 2008, 04:31 PM
- - CircuitBoyBlue   The SIM RIG would give you the ability to make you...   Jun 11 2008, 07:34 PM
- - Snow_Fox   Shadowbeat has a section on BTL abuse. There are p...   Jun 13 2008, 02:09 AM
- - Magus   There will be a forthcoming book that updates what...   Jun 13 2008, 12:54 PM
|- - JonathanC   QUOTE (Magus @ Jun 13 2008, 05:54 AM) The...   Jun 13 2008, 02:50 PM
- - CanRay   Alright! The Kapow-Kapow Shadowteens are back...   Jun 13 2008, 02:12 PM
- - CircuitBoyBlue   Hell, I DON'T have BTLs (being that I actually...   Jun 13 2008, 02:35 PM
|- - Snow_Fox   QUOTE (CircuitBoyBlue @ Jun 13 2008, 09:3...   Jun 14 2008, 01:19 AM
|- - CircuitBoyBlue   QUOTE (Snow_Fox @ Jun 13 2008, 08:19 PM) ...   Jun 14 2008, 04:47 AM
- - DireRadiant   Would it be a good thing for their to be rules on ...   Jun 13 2008, 05:55 PM
|- - CircuitBoyBlue   QUOTE (DireRadiant @ Jun 13 2008, 01:55 P...   Jun 13 2008, 06:13 PM
|- - JonathanC   QUOTE (DireRadiant @ Jun 13 2008, 09:55 A...   Jun 14 2008, 02:11 AM
- - Pyritefoolsgold   Some P-Fix chips should give you influence skills ...   Jun 13 2008, 08:41 PM
- - JonathanC   Okay seriously...the reason that this is a problem...   Jun 20 2008, 05:14 AM
- - Fuchs   Does the nuyen you pay for your regular fix count?...   Jun 20 2008, 08:17 AM
|- - JonathanC   QUOTE (Fuchs @ Jun 20 2008, 12:17 AM) Doe...   Jun 20 2008, 02:04 PM
|- - RunnerPaul   QUOTE (JonathanC @ Jun 20 2008, 10:04 AM)...   Jun 20 2008, 03:06 PM
|- - Fuchs   QUOTE (RunnerPaul @ Jun 20 2008, 05:06 PM...   Jun 20 2008, 03:09 PM
|- - JonathanC   QUOTE (RunnerPaul @ Jun 20 2008, 07:06 AM...   Jun 21 2008, 04:09 AM
- - Demonseed Elite   I would say that it's entirely possible a BTL ...   Jun 20 2008, 01:37 PM
- - CanRay   Add to that specialist types of BTLs like God Chip...   Jun 20 2008, 01:39 PM
- - RunnerPaul   Well, the Table of Contents PDF for Unwired that w...   Jun 21 2008, 12:01 PM
- - JonathanC   If it does, then I can almost forgive that awful c...   Jun 21 2008, 04:29 PM
|- - RunnerPaul   After reviewing Unwired's additional rules for...   Jun 26 2008, 02:14 AM
- - JonathanC   But there's still no effect for actually using...   Jun 26 2008, 05:14 AM
|- - RunnerPaul   QUOTE (JonathanC @ Jun 26 2008, 12:14 AM)...   Jun 26 2008, 05:28 AM
- - CanRay   No downsides, save addiction, and eventual burnout...   Jun 26 2008, 11:47 AM


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