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Juca Bala
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Hi guys, recently we came to realization that, with the rules on auto-fire in shadowrun and, specially, with the recoil compensation rules in arsenal, there is no reason not to fire always in full auto with your guns, no matter the distance.
As much as we know that it is a cinematic game, we think that it sometimes can get a little out of hand. How do you do in your games? Allow characters to hit with long burst from far alway? Use some kind of house rule? We're tinkering with the following rules and we were unable, so far, to decide what to use, pick one:

1 - Recoil compensation works only up to Short Range, this way, at CQB range you unleash your auto guns fury but at long ranges you resort to short bursts and to semi-auto. Bipods and tripods works up to medium range so your tripod/bipod monted machine-guns are not useless.

2 - Longe range penalties are worsened by 1 for short bursts and by 2 for long and full bursts.

What do you guys think? Worth the trouble?
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- Juca Bala   Full auto sniping   Aug 11 2008, 11:57 AM
- - toturi   Full auto makes an awful lot of noise. It is not a...   Aug 11 2008, 12:34 PM
|- - Starmage21   QUOTE (toturi @ Aug 11 2008, 07:34 AM) Fu...   Aug 11 2008, 12:50 PM
- - sunnyside   Most "real" weapons you'd be thinkin...   Aug 11 2008, 12:49 PM
- - Shiloh   It's an interesting point. Long range sniping ...   Aug 11 2008, 12:53 PM
|- - O'Donnell Heir   sorry for dipping back into the front page for the...   Aug 16 2008, 09:22 AM
|- - BullZeye   QUOTE (O'Donnell Heir @ Aug 16 2008, 12...   Aug 16 2008, 12:11 PM
- - psychophipps   And Shiloh has it in one. You can port the hell ou...   Aug 11 2008, 01:09 PM
- - DWC   I'd chalk it up to the ease of locating the so...   Aug 11 2008, 01:12 PM
|- - psychophipps   QUOTE (DWC @ Aug 11 2008, 06:12 AM) I...   Aug 11 2008, 01:18 PM
|- - DWC   QUOTE (psychophipps @ Aug 11 2008, 08:18 ...   Aug 11 2008, 01:22 PM
- - Stahlseele   i remember in SR3, i once made a character that so...   Aug 11 2008, 01:14 PM
- - Isath   I do not see where a good sniper is in need of a f...   Aug 11 2008, 01:24 PM
- - Stahlseele   to defend himself from mre than one enemey   Aug 11 2008, 01:35 PM
- - CanRay   If he's defending himself, then it's proba...   Aug 11 2008, 01:39 PM
- - Stahlseele   but this way you only need one weapon for close-qu...   Aug 11 2008, 01:49 PM
- - CanRay   And that's where Drones come in. A heavily-br...   Aug 11 2008, 01:52 PM
- - Juca Bala   They don't need full auto sniper rifles, but, ...   Aug 11 2008, 03:05 PM
- - CanRay   No, but dispatching a Rotodrone with a LMG is an o...   Aug 11 2008, 03:12 PM
- - Tarantula   Personally, if they're good enough that they c...   Aug 11 2008, 03:16 PM
- - CanRay   Or another type of Gyrostabilizer. IIRC, the Gyro...   Aug 11 2008, 04:06 PM
- - Alex   Are you aware that the US military has a semi-auto...   Aug 11 2008, 06:04 PM
- - CanRay   Note that: "Standard". For TRUE accura...   Aug 11 2008, 06:55 PM
|- - Tarantula   QUOTE (CanRay @ Aug 11 2008, 11:55 AM) No...   Aug 11 2008, 07:14 PM
|- - It trolls!   QUOTE (Tarantula @ Aug 11 2008, 09:14 PM)...   Aug 11 2008, 07:48 PM
|- - Shiloh   QUOTE (Tarantula @ Aug 11 2008, 08:14 PM)...   Aug 12 2008, 09:29 AM
- - Juca Bala   Well, I think that some kind of penaltie must exis...   Aug 11 2008, 06:58 PM
|- - CanRay   QUOTE (Juca Bala @ Aug 11 2008, 01:58 PM)...   Aug 11 2008, 07:00 PM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (Juca Bala @ Aug 11 2008, 09:58 PM)...   Aug 11 2008, 08:25 PM
- - Caine Hazen   A lot will do with the GM.. I'd be fulling wil...   Aug 11 2008, 07:37 PM
- - CanRay   Didn't Hathcock "Feather" the trigge...   Aug 11 2008, 07:52 PM
- - Stahlseele   isn't the browning M2 .50 the light fifty the ...   Aug 11 2008, 07:54 PM
|- - Suriyel   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Aug 11 2008, 07:54 PM...   Aug 11 2008, 08:22 PM
- - Tarantula   From what I can find, wikipedia says the m2 was ac...   Aug 11 2008, 08:00 PM
- - Stahlseele   accurate depending on the definition of the word ....   Aug 11 2008, 08:10 PM
|- - Tarantula   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Aug 11 2008, 01:10 PM...   Aug 11 2008, 08:17 PM
|- - Stahlseele   QUOTE (Tarantula @ Aug 11 2008, 10:17 PM)...   Aug 11 2008, 08:28 PM
- - Tarantula   Was referencing wikipedia, which says a m2 is accu...   Aug 11 2008, 08:34 PM
- - hyzmarca   It is important to remember that there is a huge d...   Aug 11 2008, 09:02 PM
|- - kzt   QUOTE (hyzmarca @ Aug 11 2008, 02:02 PM) ...   Aug 12 2008, 06:07 AM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (kzt @ Aug 12 2008, 02:07 PM) Burst...   Aug 12 2008, 07:04 AM
|- - kzt   QUOTE (toturi @ Aug 12 2008, 12:04 AM) No...   Aug 12 2008, 05:49 PM
|- - CanRay   QUOTE (kzt @ Aug 12 2008, 12:49 PM) Consi...   Aug 12 2008, 05:51 PM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (kzt @ Aug 13 2008, 01:49 AM) Consi...   Aug 13 2008, 01:50 AM
- - DreadPirateKitten   Cant we use trig in game? I wanna. Maybe anyone ...   Aug 11 2008, 10:35 PM
- - Tarantula   If I have a smartlink system does that mean I get ...   Aug 11 2008, 10:37 PM
- - Cthulhudreams   Its totally wacky that people don't think that...   Aug 11 2008, 11:39 PM
- - Zombayz   As a weapons nut I can tell you that a bolt action...   Aug 12 2008, 03:15 AM
- - hyzmarca   I have crappy depth perception, but the central po...   Aug 12 2008, 06:35 AM
- - Chrysalis   Choose the third floor of a building made using re...   Aug 12 2008, 08:28 AM
- - Nkari   Indeed.. at 600m it is not THAT big of a deal to h...   Aug 12 2008, 12:14 PM
|- - Shiloh   QUOTE (Nkari @ Aug 12 2008, 01:14 PM) I c...   Aug 12 2008, 01:18 PM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (Nkari @ Aug 12 2008, 08:14 PM) Ind...   Aug 12 2008, 01:30 PM
|- - Ed_209a   QUOTE (Nkari @ Aug 12 2008, 08:14 AM) Cha...   Aug 12 2008, 03:10 PM
|- - kzt   QUOTE (Nkari @ Aug 12 2008, 05:14 AM) I c...   Aug 12 2008, 05:52 PM
|- - Shiloh   QUOTE (kzt @ Aug 12 2008, 06:52 PM) I...   Aug 12 2008, 09:48 PM
- - Tarantula   Let me put it this way, getting a bipod/tripod in ...   Aug 12 2008, 02:54 PM
- - Aaron   Have you considered taking the fight indoors?   Aug 12 2008, 03:23 PM
- - Xiaan   (apologies for jumping in this so late) truthfull...   Aug 12 2008, 10:14 PM
|- - kzt   QUOTE (Xiaan @ Aug 12 2008, 03:14 PM) How...   Aug 13 2008, 02:27 AM
|- - BullZeye   QUOTE (kzt @ Aug 13 2008, 05:27 AM) (thou...   Aug 13 2008, 11:01 AM
- - VagabondStar   Realistically, machine gun beating zones would pre...   Aug 13 2008, 03:48 AM
- - toturi   Just to reiterate a point I have made in many othe...   Aug 13 2008, 05:50 AM
|- - Shiloh   QUOTE (toturi @ Aug 13 2008, 06:50 AM) .....   Aug 13 2008, 08:53 AM
- - Juca Bala   Well, maybe it's more easy to simply say that ...   Aug 13 2008, 12:11 PM
- - sunnyside   Something that I''m surprised hasn't b...   Aug 13 2008, 02:30 PM
|- - Tarantula   QUOTE (sunnyside @ Aug 13 2008, 08:30 AM)...   Aug 13 2008, 03:51 PM
|- - sunnyside   QUOTE (Tarantula @ Aug 13 2008, 10:51 AM)...   Aug 13 2008, 09:18 PM
|- - Tarantula   QUOTE (sunnyside @ Aug 13 2008, 02:18 PM)...   Aug 13 2008, 09:29 PM
|- - sunnyside   QUOTE (Tarantula @ Aug 13 2008, 04:29 PM)...   Aug 13 2008, 09:44 PM
- - ccelizic   There's a problem with sniping in the 6th worl...   Aug 13 2008, 04:57 PM
|- - Tarantula   QUOTE (ccelizic @ Aug 13 2008, 10:57 AM) ...   Aug 13 2008, 05:35 PM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (Tarantula @ Aug 14 2008, 01:35 AM)...   Aug 16 2008, 01:53 AM
- - CanRay   I once had a Adept with a Grenade Launcher (The Gl...   Aug 13 2008, 05:42 PM
- - Tarantula   I'd say full recoil comp is just that, full. ...   Aug 13 2008, 09:56 PM
- - BullZeye   Well, SR doesn't take in account at all the ca...   Aug 14 2008, 06:02 AM
- - Tarantula   Actually, heavy weapons suffer double recoil penal...   Aug 14 2008, 02:30 PM
|- - psychophipps   QUOTE (Tarantula @ Aug 14 2008, 06:30 AM)...   Aug 14 2008, 03:00 PM
|- - BullZeye   QUOTE (Tarantula @ Aug 14 2008, 05:30 PM)...   Aug 14 2008, 03:24 PM
||- - kzt   QUOTE (BullZeye @ Aug 14 2008, 08:24 AM) ...   Aug 14 2008, 03:58 PM
|- - Shiloh   QUOTE (Tarantula @ Aug 14 2008, 03:30 PM)...   Aug 15 2008, 09:26 AM
- - Tarantula   No, i mean that +9 to damage is better than +4 to ...   Aug 14 2008, 03:05 PM
- - Tarantula   Vehicles do and don't. Vehicles do not have a...   Aug 14 2008, 04:27 PM
|- - BullZeye   QUOTE (Tarantula @ Aug 14 2008, 07:27 PM)...   Aug 15 2008, 08:07 AM
- - Tarantula   Shadowrun includes the Rambo effect?   Aug 15 2008, 02:38 PM
- - BullZeye   Shadowrun's recoil rules are unfortunate made ...   Aug 15 2008, 04:52 PM
- - HeavyMetalYeti   A RL M60 7.62 (medium MG in SR) can be fired from ...   Aug 16 2008, 01:33 AM
- - evilgenius   I'm a little late to the party, but honestly f...   Aug 16 2008, 03:41 AM
|- - BullZeye   QUOTE (evilgenius @ Aug 16 2008, 06:41 AM...   Aug 16 2008, 08:40 AM
- - Xiaan   It's worth saying that although riflemen and a...   Aug 16 2008, 09:28 AM


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