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TKDNinjaInBlack
post Sep 21 2008, 11:17 PM
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How come I read that so many people get up in arms over the continuing meta plot involving characters, items, and events from Earthdawn? I was talking to a member of my gaming group last night and he said the one thing he didn't really care for in SR was the continuing ED metaplot. I also see posters here who get put off by the mention of these things. So here's my question:

Shouldn't this be a major selling point for the Shadowrun universe? I mean, the thing that drew me to SR was the richly detailed world where all these forces of magic and tech are colliding and competing with each other. There is a full history that spans an entirely different game to compliment it too. From what I hear, there is another one being added to the mix to chronicle the 8th world.

That said, why don't those who complain go play some other game with a universal system if they want to create a standard cyberpunk realm without mythology and history? Why stick it out with SR if one wants to complain about the world and the plot when the story develops? Isn't that the point of a specific setting, is to enjoy it? I'm just trying to get input here because I guess I really can't wrap my mind around this.
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- TKDNinjaInBlack   ED metaplot   Sep 21 2008, 11:17 PM
- - Synner667   The whole ED crossover has been stopped dead, or v...   Sep 21 2008, 11:37 PM
- - Dr. Funkenstein   I liked the allusions to the Fourth World. I hate...   Sep 21 2008, 11:40 PM
|- - Fuchs   QUOTE (Dr. Funkenstein @ Sep 22 2008, 01...   Sep 22 2008, 07:28 AM
- - Fortune   I really don't see the problem at all. The Met...   Sep 21 2008, 11:42 PM
- - Ryu   I like the ED connections, I´m already running an...   Sep 21 2008, 11:53 PM
- - Stahlseele   the only thing i don't like about the ED Metap...   Sep 22 2008, 12:00 AM
- - sunnyside   Personally I like the Earthdawn connection, becaus...   Sep 22 2008, 12:10 AM
- - HappyDaze   QUOTE Shouldn't this be a major selling point ...   Sep 22 2008, 12:35 AM
|- - Red_Cap   QUOTE (HappyDaze @ Sep 21 2008, 05:35 PM)...   Sep 22 2008, 12:57 AM
- - Dr. Funkenstein   That's definitely a big hindrance now for the ...   Sep 22 2008, 12:55 AM
|- - Grinder   QUOTE (Dr. Funkenstein @ Sep 22 2008, 02...   Sep 22 2008, 11:46 AM
- - HappyDaze   QUOTE That's definitely a big hindrance now fo...   Sep 22 2008, 01:00 AM
- - It trolls!   What I hated about the crossover was less that it ...   Sep 22 2008, 01:09 AM
|- - sunnyside   QUOTE (It trolls! @ Sep 21 2008, 08:0...   Sep 22 2008, 02:06 AM
|- - psychophipps   QUOTE (It trolls! @ Sep 21 2008, 05:0...   Sep 22 2008, 03:04 AM
||- - Fuchs   QUOTE (psychophipps @ Sep 22 2008, 05:04 ...   Sep 22 2008, 07:32 AM
|- - hyzmarca   QUOTE (It trolls! @ Sep 21 2008, 09:0...   Sep 22 2008, 05:53 AM
|- - psychophipps   QUOTE (hyzmarca @ Sep 21 2008, 09:53 PM) ...   Sep 22 2008, 06:21 AM
|- - TKDNinjaInBlack   QUOTE (psychophipps @ Sep 22 2008, 01:21 ...   Sep 22 2008, 06:30 AM
|- - hyzmarca   QUOTE (psychophipps @ Sep 22 2008, 01:21 ...   Sep 22 2008, 11:00 AM
|- - Fuchs   QUOTE (hyzmarca @ Sep 22 2008, 01:00 PM) ...   Sep 22 2008, 11:02 AM
- - TKDNinjaInBlack   Going along the SR4 downplay a bit... Hasn't ...   Sep 22 2008, 02:19 AM
- - Wesley Street   What's all this "Mary Sue" nonsense ...   Sep 22 2008, 02:29 AM
- - Dr. Funkenstein   You mean like the all-powerful Immortal Elves or G...   Sep 22 2008, 02:54 AM
- - Ancient History   I'm just going to throw this one out there, bu...   Sep 22 2008, 03:13 AM
|- - Fuchs   QUOTE (Ancient History @ Sep 22 2008, 05...   Sep 22 2008, 07:37 AM
- - MJBurrage   Immortal Elves and Dragons playing power games has...   Sep 22 2008, 06:46 AM
- - Glyph   The trouble is that Earthdawn doesn't really f...   Sep 22 2008, 07:28 AM
|- - Fuchs   QUOTE (Glyph @ Sep 22 2008, 09:28 AM) The...   Sep 22 2008, 07:35 AM
- - Blade   For me the Shadowrun universe is a universe where ...   Sep 22 2008, 08:01 AM
- - Gast   QUOTE For me the Shadowrun universe is a universe ...   Sep 22 2008, 08:33 AM
- - psychophipps   Gotta agree here as well, my man. There is absolut...   Sep 22 2008, 09:33 AM
|- - Grinder   QUOTE (psychophipps @ Sep 22 2008, 11:33 ...   Sep 22 2008, 11:45 AM
|- - TKDNinjaInBlack   QUOTE (Grinder @ Sep 22 2008, 06:45 AM) M...   Sep 22 2008, 01:05 PM
|- - Fuchs   QUOTE (TKDNinjaInBlack @ Sep 22 2008, 03...   Sep 22 2008, 01:22 PM
||- - TKDNinjaInBlack   QUOTE (Fuchs @ Sep 22 2008, 08:22 AM) Som...   Sep 22 2008, 01:31 PM
||- - Fuchs   QUOTE (TKDNinjaInBlack @ Sep 22 2008, 03...   Sep 22 2008, 01:35 PM
||- - psychophipps   QUOTE (Fuchs @ Sep 22 2008, 05:35 AM) Uh,...   Sep 22 2008, 01:45 PM
|- - psychophipps   QUOTE (TKDNinjaInBlack @ Sep 22 2008, 05...   Sep 22 2008, 01:28 PM
- - Fortune   Good for you! Why do you feel that in order to...   Sep 22 2008, 09:53 AM
|- - crizh   QUOTE (Fortune @ Sep 22 2008, 10:53 AM) G...   Sep 22 2008, 10:18 AM
||- - Fuchs   QUOTE (crizh @ Sep 22 2008, 12:18 PM) Ame...   Sep 22 2008, 10:25 AM
||- - crizh   QUOTE (Fuchs @ Sep 22 2008, 11:25 AM) Hav...   Sep 22 2008, 10:52 AM
||- - Fuchs   QUOTE (crizh @ Sep 22 2008, 12:52 PM) Wel...   Sep 22 2008, 11:01 AM
|- - Fuchs   QUOTE (Fortune @ Sep 22 2008, 11:53 AM) G...   Sep 22 2008, 10:21 AM
||- - Ryu   QUOTE (Fuchs @ Sep 22 2008, 12:21 PM) Bec...   Sep 22 2008, 10:48 AM
|- - psychophipps   QUOTE (Fortune @ Sep 22 2008, 02:53 AM) G...   Sep 22 2008, 10:27 AM
- - sunnyside   At some of the people who would know. What's ...   Sep 22 2008, 10:05 AM
- - Naysayer   Three words, Fortune: The. Inter. Nets. As to ED:...   Sep 22 2008, 10:06 AM
- - Fuchs   And not to put a too fine point on it - a campaign...   Sep 22 2008, 10:31 AM
|- - Cardul   QUOTE (Fuchs @ Sep 22 2008, 05:31 AM) And...   Sep 22 2008, 11:05 AM
|- - Fuchs   QUOTE (Cardul @ Sep 22 2008, 01:05 PM) Of...   Sep 22 2008, 11:09 AM
- - Dr. Funkenstein   QUOTE Clear, to the point, no metaplot horseshit t...   Sep 22 2008, 10:38 AM
- - Fuchs   The whole Leonardo deal and its consequences. Azte...   Sep 22 2008, 10:55 AM
|- - Ryu   QUOTE (Fuchs @ Sep 22 2008, 12:55 PM) The...   Sep 22 2008, 11:20 AM
- - Fuchs   Heck, you can have IEs in the setting. But making ...   Sep 22 2008, 11:30 AM
- - sunnyside   On IE killability. Personally I'd like to see...   Sep 22 2008, 11:32 AM
|- - Fuchs   QUOTE (sunnyside @ Sep 22 2008, 01:32 PM)...   Sep 22 2008, 11:36 AM
|- - It trolls!   QUOTE (Fuchs @ Sep 22 2008, 01:36 PM) Fir...   Sep 22 2008, 11:59 AM
|- - sunnyside   QUOTE (Fuchs @ Sep 22 2008, 07:36 AM) If ...   Sep 22 2008, 12:02 PM
- - ravensmuse   My own personal belief, since I'm not going to...   Sep 22 2008, 12:01 PM
- - Fuchs   Seems to be a case of the "If you don't l...   Sep 22 2008, 01:33 PM
|- - TKDNinjaInBlack   QUOTE (Fuchs @ Sep 22 2008, 08:33 AM) See...   Sep 22 2008, 01:46 PM
- - Stahlseele   Horrors came at the Top of mana right? that's ...   Sep 22 2008, 01:33 PM
- - Gast   The point is that Shadowrun slowly went from ...   Sep 22 2008, 01:47 PM
- - Red_Cap   And the solution for those who don't want a me...   Sep 22 2008, 04:03 PM
|- - psychophipps   QUOTE (Red_Cap @ Sep 22 2008, 09:03 AM) A...   Sep 22 2008, 05:00 PM
||- - Steampunk   QUOTE (psychophipps @ Sep 22 2008, 07:00 ...   Sep 22 2008, 05:25 PM
||- - Fuchs   QUOTE (Steampunk @ Sep 22 2008, 07:25 PM)...   Sep 22 2008, 05:59 PM
||- - Dr. Funkenstein   QUOTE (Steampunk @ Sep 22 2008, 11:25 AM)...   Sep 22 2008, 06:17 PM
|- - Wesley Street   QUOTE (Red_Cap @ Sep 22 2008, 11:03 AM) I...   Sep 22 2008, 05:08 PM
||- - Fuchs   QUOTE (Wesley Street @ Sep 22 2008, 07:08...   Sep 22 2008, 05:58 PM
|- - Dr. Funkenstein   QUOTE (Red_Cap @ Sep 22 2008, 10:03 AM) B...   Sep 22 2008, 06:05 PM
|- - TKDNinjaInBlack   QUOTE (Dr. Funkenstein @ Sep 22 2008, 01...   Sep 22 2008, 06:49 PM
- - Gast   The point you miss is that I'd like a good met...   Sep 22 2008, 04:14 PM
- - Fuchs   Yep.Notice how no one posts about the ordo maximus...   Sep 22 2008, 06:15 PM
- - Fuchs   Or the entire Leonardo plot, casually mentioning t...   Sep 22 2008, 06:22 PM
|- - the_real_elwood   QUOTE (Fuchs @ Sep 22 2008, 12:22 PM) Or ...   Sep 22 2008, 07:04 PM
|- - Fuchs   QUOTE (the_real_elwood @ Sep 22 2008, 09...   Sep 22 2008, 07:06 PM
- - Steampunk   I read, played and GMed both But that still doesn...   Sep 22 2008, 06:24 PM
|- - Fuchs   QUOTE (Steampunk @ Sep 22 2008, 08:24 PM)...   Sep 22 2008, 06:30 PM
- - Ancient History   In other news, Immortal Elves and Great Dragons sp...   Sep 22 2008, 06:26 PM
|- - Dr. Funkenstein   QUOTE (Ancient History @ Sep 22 2008, 12...   Sep 22 2008, 06:29 PM
- - HappyDaze   QUOTE Yes, you can ignore it and carry on normally...   Sep 22 2008, 06:51 PM
- - the_real_elwood   The Earthdawn metaplot doesn't bother me, most...   Sep 22 2008, 06:52 PM
- - Dr. Funkenstein   Unless, you know, they went into who was responsib...   Sep 22 2008, 06:54 PM
- - Steampunk   And why should any GM bring their players into the...   Sep 22 2008, 07:02 PM
- - Dr. Funkenstein   Are you really that dense? Most of the people who...   Sep 22 2008, 07:04 PM
- - Fuchs   Because, you know, the election campaign might be ...   Sep 22 2008, 07:05 PM
- - TKDNinjaInBlack   Alright, just a check on the state of things right...   Sep 22 2008, 07:06 PM
|- - Dr. Funkenstein   QUOTE (TKDNinjaInBlack @ Sep 22 2008, 02...   Sep 22 2008, 07:09 PM
|- - Fuchs   QUOTE (TKDNinjaInBlack @ Sep 22 2008, 09...   Sep 22 2008, 07:12 PM
- - Mäx   QUOTE (Fuchs @ Sep 22 2008, 08:58 PM) And...   Sep 22 2008, 07:08 PM
|- - Dr. Funkenstein   QUOTE (Mäx @ Sep 22 2008, 02:08 PM) No o...   Sep 22 2008, 07:12 PM
||- - Fuchs   QUOTE (Dr. Funkenstein @ Sep 22 2008, 09...   Sep 22 2008, 07:16 PM
||- - Mäx   QUOTE (Dr. Funkenstein @ Sep 22 2008, 10...   Sep 22 2008, 07:17 PM
|- - Fuchs   QUOTE (Mäx @ Sep 22 2008, 09:08 PM) Plea...   Sep 22 2008, 07:13 PM
|- - the_real_elwood   QUOTE (Fuchs @ Sep 22 2008, 01:13 PM) Ao....   Sep 22 2008, 07:15 PM
- - the_real_elwood   Since there's nothing in Shadowrun that you ca...   Sep 22 2008, 07:13 PM
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