Sep 21 2008, 11:17 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 400 Joined: 8-September 08 From: St. Louis, UCAS Member No.: 16,329 |
How come I read that so many people get up in arms over the continuing meta plot involving characters, items, and events from Earthdawn? I was talking to a member of my gaming group last night and he said the one thing he didn't really care for in SR was the continuing ED metaplot. I also see posters here who get put off by the mention of these things. So here's my question:
Shouldn't this be a major selling point for the Shadowrun universe? I mean, the thing that drew me to SR was the richly detailed world where all these forces of magic and tech are colliding and competing with each other. There is a full history that spans an entirely different game to compliment it too. From what I hear, there is another one being added to the mix to chronicle the 8th world. That said, why don't those who complain go play some other game with a universal system if they want to create a standard cyberpunk realm without mythology and history? Why stick it out with SR if one wants to complain about the world and the plot when the story develops? Isn't that the point of a specific setting, is to enjoy it? I'm just trying to get input here because I guess I really can't wrap my mind around this. |
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TKDNinjaInBlack ED metaplot Sep 21 2008, 11:17 PM
Synner667 The whole ED crossover has been stopped dead, or v... Sep 21 2008, 11:37 PM
Dr. Funkenstein I liked the allusions to the Fourth World.
I hate... Sep 21 2008, 11:40 PM
Fuchs QUOTE (Dr. Funkenstein @ Sep 22 2008, 01... Sep 22 2008, 07:28 AM
Fortune I really don't see the problem at all. The Met... Sep 21 2008, 11:42 PM
Ryu I like the ED connections, I´m already running an... Sep 21 2008, 11:53 PM
Stahlseele the only thing i don't like about the ED Metap... Sep 22 2008, 12:00 AM
sunnyside Personally I like the Earthdawn connection, becaus... Sep 22 2008, 12:10 AM
HappyDaze QUOTE Shouldn't this be a major selling point ... Sep 22 2008, 12:35 AM
Red_Cap QUOTE (HappyDaze @ Sep 21 2008, 05:35 PM)... Sep 22 2008, 12:57 AM
Dr. Funkenstein That's definitely a big hindrance now for the ... Sep 22 2008, 12:55 AM
Grinder QUOTE (Dr. Funkenstein @ Sep 22 2008, 02... Sep 22 2008, 11:46 AM
HappyDaze QUOTE That's definitely a big hindrance now fo... Sep 22 2008, 01:00 AM
It trolls! What I hated about the crossover was less that it ... Sep 22 2008, 01:09 AM
sunnyside QUOTE (It trolls! @ Sep 21 2008, 08:0... Sep 22 2008, 02:06 AM
psychophipps QUOTE (It trolls! @ Sep 21 2008, 05:0... Sep 22 2008, 03:04 AM

Fuchs QUOTE (psychophipps @ Sep 22 2008, 05:04 ... Sep 22 2008, 07:32 AM
hyzmarca QUOTE (It trolls! @ Sep 21 2008, 09:0... Sep 22 2008, 05:53 AM
psychophipps QUOTE (hyzmarca @ Sep 21 2008, 09:53 PM) ... Sep 22 2008, 06:21 AM
TKDNinjaInBlack QUOTE (psychophipps @ Sep 22 2008, 01:21 ... Sep 22 2008, 06:30 AM
hyzmarca QUOTE (psychophipps @ Sep 22 2008, 01:21 ... Sep 22 2008, 11:00 AM
Fuchs QUOTE (hyzmarca @ Sep 22 2008, 01:00 PM) ... Sep 22 2008, 11:02 AM
TKDNinjaInBlack Going along the SR4 downplay a bit...
Hasn't ... Sep 22 2008, 02:19 AM
Wesley Street What's all this "Mary Sue" nonsense ... Sep 22 2008, 02:29 AM
Dr. Funkenstein You mean like the all-powerful Immortal Elves or G... Sep 22 2008, 02:54 AM
Ancient History I'm just going to throw this one out there, bu... Sep 22 2008, 03:13 AM
Fuchs QUOTE (Ancient History @ Sep 22 2008, 05... Sep 22 2008, 07:37 AM
MJBurrage Immortal Elves and Dragons playing power games has... Sep 22 2008, 06:46 AM
Glyph The trouble is that Earthdawn doesn't really f... Sep 22 2008, 07:28 AM
Fuchs QUOTE (Glyph @ Sep 22 2008, 09:28 AM) The... Sep 22 2008, 07:35 AM
Blade For me the Shadowrun universe is a universe where ... Sep 22 2008, 08:01 AM
Gast QUOTE For me the Shadowrun universe is a universe ... Sep 22 2008, 08:33 AM
psychophipps Gotta agree here as well, my man. There is absolut... Sep 22 2008, 09:33 AM
Grinder QUOTE (psychophipps @ Sep 22 2008, 11:33 ... Sep 22 2008, 11:45 AM
TKDNinjaInBlack QUOTE (Grinder @ Sep 22 2008, 06:45 AM) M... Sep 22 2008, 01:05 PM
Fuchs QUOTE (TKDNinjaInBlack @ Sep 22 2008, 03... Sep 22 2008, 01:22 PM

TKDNinjaInBlack QUOTE (Fuchs @ Sep 22 2008, 08:22 AM) Som... Sep 22 2008, 01:31 PM

Fuchs QUOTE (TKDNinjaInBlack @ Sep 22 2008, 03... Sep 22 2008, 01:35 PM

psychophipps QUOTE (Fuchs @ Sep 22 2008, 05:35 AM) Uh,... Sep 22 2008, 01:45 PM
psychophipps QUOTE (TKDNinjaInBlack @ Sep 22 2008, 05... Sep 22 2008, 01:28 PM
Fortune Good for you! Why do you feel that in order to... Sep 22 2008, 09:53 AM
crizh QUOTE (Fortune @ Sep 22 2008, 10:53 AM) G... Sep 22 2008, 10:18 AM

Fuchs QUOTE (crizh @ Sep 22 2008, 12:18 PM) Ame... Sep 22 2008, 10:25 AM

crizh QUOTE (Fuchs @ Sep 22 2008, 11:25 AM) Hav... Sep 22 2008, 10:52 AM

Fuchs QUOTE (crizh @ Sep 22 2008, 12:52 PM) Wel... Sep 22 2008, 11:01 AM
Fuchs QUOTE (Fortune @ Sep 22 2008, 11:53 AM) G... Sep 22 2008, 10:21 AM

Ryu QUOTE (Fuchs @ Sep 22 2008, 12:21 PM) Bec... Sep 22 2008, 10:48 AM
psychophipps QUOTE (Fortune @ Sep 22 2008, 02:53 AM) G... Sep 22 2008, 10:27 AM
sunnyside At some of the people who would know. What's ... Sep 22 2008, 10:05 AM
Naysayer Three words, Fortune: The. Inter. Nets.
As to ED:... Sep 22 2008, 10:06 AM
Fuchs And not to put a too fine point on it - a campaign... Sep 22 2008, 10:31 AM
Cardul QUOTE (Fuchs @ Sep 22 2008, 05:31 AM) And... Sep 22 2008, 11:05 AM
Fuchs QUOTE (Cardul @ Sep 22 2008, 01:05 PM) Of... Sep 22 2008, 11:09 AM
Dr. Funkenstein QUOTE Clear, to the point, no metaplot horseshit t... Sep 22 2008, 10:38 AM
Fuchs The whole Leonardo deal and its consequences. Azte... Sep 22 2008, 10:55 AM
Ryu QUOTE (Fuchs @ Sep 22 2008, 12:55 PM) The... Sep 22 2008, 11:20 AM
Fuchs Heck, you can have IEs in the setting. But making ... Sep 22 2008, 11:30 AM
sunnyside On IE killability.
Personally I'd like to see... Sep 22 2008, 11:32 AM
Fuchs QUOTE (sunnyside @ Sep 22 2008, 01:32 PM)... Sep 22 2008, 11:36 AM
It trolls! QUOTE (Fuchs @ Sep 22 2008, 01:36 PM) Fir... Sep 22 2008, 11:59 AM
sunnyside QUOTE (Fuchs @ Sep 22 2008, 07:36 AM) If ... Sep 22 2008, 12:02 PM
ravensmuse My own personal belief, since I'm not going to... Sep 22 2008, 12:01 PM
Fuchs Seems to be a case of the "If you don't l... Sep 22 2008, 01:33 PM
TKDNinjaInBlack QUOTE (Fuchs @ Sep 22 2008, 08:33 AM) See... Sep 22 2008, 01:46 PM
Stahlseele Horrors came at the Top of mana right?
that's ... Sep 22 2008, 01:33 PM
Gast The point is that Shadowrun slowly went from ... Sep 22 2008, 01:47 PM
Red_Cap And the solution for those who don't want a me... Sep 22 2008, 04:03 PM
psychophipps QUOTE (Red_Cap @ Sep 22 2008, 09:03 AM) A... Sep 22 2008, 05:00 PM

Steampunk QUOTE (psychophipps @ Sep 22 2008, 07:00 ... Sep 22 2008, 05:25 PM

Fuchs QUOTE (Steampunk @ Sep 22 2008, 07:25 PM)... Sep 22 2008, 05:59 PM

Dr. Funkenstein QUOTE (Steampunk @ Sep 22 2008, 11:25 AM)... Sep 22 2008, 06:17 PM
Wesley Street QUOTE (Red_Cap @ Sep 22 2008, 11:03 AM) I... Sep 22 2008, 05:08 PM

Fuchs QUOTE (Wesley Street @ Sep 22 2008, 07:08... Sep 22 2008, 05:58 PM
Dr. Funkenstein QUOTE (Red_Cap @ Sep 22 2008, 10:03 AM) B... Sep 22 2008, 06:05 PM
TKDNinjaInBlack QUOTE (Dr. Funkenstein @ Sep 22 2008, 01... Sep 22 2008, 06:49 PM
Gast The point you miss is that I'd like a good met... Sep 22 2008, 04:14 PM
Fuchs Yep.Notice how no one posts about the ordo maximus... Sep 22 2008, 06:15 PM
Fuchs Or the entire Leonardo plot, casually mentioning t... Sep 22 2008, 06:22 PM
the_real_elwood QUOTE (Fuchs @ Sep 22 2008, 12:22 PM) Or ... Sep 22 2008, 07:04 PM
Fuchs QUOTE (the_real_elwood @ Sep 22 2008, 09... Sep 22 2008, 07:06 PM
Steampunk I read, played and GMed both But that still doesn... Sep 22 2008, 06:24 PM
Fuchs QUOTE (Steampunk @ Sep 22 2008, 08:24 PM)... Sep 22 2008, 06:30 PM
Ancient History In other news, Immortal Elves and Great Dragons sp... Sep 22 2008, 06:26 PM
Dr. Funkenstein QUOTE (Ancient History @ Sep 22 2008, 12... Sep 22 2008, 06:29 PM
HappyDaze QUOTE Yes, you can ignore it and carry on normally... Sep 22 2008, 06:51 PM
the_real_elwood The Earthdawn metaplot doesn't bother me, most... Sep 22 2008, 06:52 PM
Dr. Funkenstein Unless, you know, they went into who was responsib... Sep 22 2008, 06:54 PM
Steampunk And why should any GM bring their players into the... Sep 22 2008, 07:02 PM
Dr. Funkenstein Are you really that dense?
Most of the people who... Sep 22 2008, 07:04 PM
Fuchs Because, you know, the election campaign might be ... Sep 22 2008, 07:05 PM
TKDNinjaInBlack Alright, just a check on the state of things right... Sep 22 2008, 07:06 PM
Dr. Funkenstein QUOTE (TKDNinjaInBlack @ Sep 22 2008, 02... Sep 22 2008, 07:09 PM
Fuchs QUOTE (TKDNinjaInBlack @ Sep 22 2008, 09... Sep 22 2008, 07:12 PM
Mäx QUOTE (Fuchs @ Sep 22 2008, 08:58 PM) And... Sep 22 2008, 07:08 PM
Dr. Funkenstein QUOTE (Mäx @ Sep 22 2008, 02:08 PM) No o... Sep 22 2008, 07:12 PM

Fuchs QUOTE (Dr. Funkenstein @ Sep 22 2008, 09... Sep 22 2008, 07:16 PM

Mäx QUOTE (Dr. Funkenstein @ Sep 22 2008, 10... Sep 22 2008, 07:17 PM
Fuchs QUOTE (Mäx @ Sep 22 2008, 09:08 PM) Plea... Sep 22 2008, 07:13 PM
the_real_elwood QUOTE (Fuchs @ Sep 22 2008, 01:13 PM) Ao.... Sep 22 2008, 07:15 PM
the_real_elwood Since there's nothing in Shadowrun that you ca... Sep 22 2008, 07:13 PM![]() ![]() |
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