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Janice
post Oct 2 2008, 08:20 AM
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Does exploding ammo affect the modifier to perception checks to hear a firearm being used I know it may seem to be obvious to some, but I have to ask for two reasons: 1. because I'm curious as to whether or not exploding ammo is louder than the noise of a suppressed weapon (which can still be quite loud), and 2. because as far as I can tell, Shadowrun doesn't differentiate between the noise of the firearm's discharge, the noise of the round breaking the sound barrier, and the noise of impact, which makes the subject kinda fuzzy in my head.
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- Janice   Exploding ammo and suppressors.   Oct 2 2008, 08:20 AM
- - Dr. Funkenstein   As far as I know, 4th Edition doesn't address ...   Oct 2 2008, 08:27 AM
- - Muspellsheimr   Explosive ammunition has a fire-cracker like deton...   Oct 2 2008, 08:28 AM
- - Ravor   According to the fluff in Fields of Fire Ex and Ex...   Oct 2 2008, 03:10 PM
|- - Kairo   QUOTE (Ravor @ Oct 2 2008, 10:10 AM) Acco...   Oct 2 2008, 08:48 PM
- - Tarantula   Subsonic ammo in arsenal gives an extra -1 DP to b...   Oct 2 2008, 03:22 PM
- - psychophipps   Also, don't forget that sub-20mm or so ammunit...   Oct 2 2008, 03:26 PM
|- - kzt   QUOTE (psychophipps @ Oct 2 2008, 08:26 A...   Oct 2 2008, 04:31 PM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (kzt @ Oct 2 2008, 07:31 PM) This i...   Oct 2 2008, 04:51 PM
||- - psychophipps   QUOTE (Mäx @ Oct 2 2008, 09:51 AM) I wou...   Oct 2 2008, 08:29 PM
|- - Janice   QUOTE (kzt @ Oct 2 2008, 08:31 AM) This i...   Oct 4 2008, 07:02 AM
- - noonesshowmonkey   Frangibility + AP = hruhhh? I think that was his ...   Oct 2 2008, 06:13 PM
- - Ravor   According to the fluff they actually use a mirco c...   Oct 2 2008, 08:50 PM
- - Oenone   Personally I'd rule you still get the silencer...   Oct 2 2008, 09:47 PM
- - Falconer   Stop and think how much noise a very small amount ...   Oct 3 2008, 03:10 AM
- - Coldan   Well, there are some modifiers, which match. To h...   Oct 3 2008, 03:28 AM
- - the_real_elwood   I've got to say that I think any amount of exp...   Oct 3 2008, 05:00 AM
- - BullZeye   I know my players don't like my ruling about s...   Oct 3 2008, 06:45 PM
|- - Janice   QUOTE (BullZeye @ Oct 3 2008, 10:45 AM) I...   Oct 4 2008, 07:10 AM
- - Falconer   Bullzeye: I think you're probably overcompens...   Oct 4 2008, 03:20 AM
|- - psychophipps   QUOTE (Falconer @ Oct 3 2008, 08:20 PM) B...   Oct 4 2008, 03:48 AM
- - BullZeye   Yeah, I know a suppressor does drop the sound some...   Oct 4 2008, 07:53 AM
- - Red_Cap   I speak from experience here. M-4s with the whoop...   Oct 5 2008, 02:02 AM
|- - Janice   QUOTE (Red_Cap @ Oct 4 2008, 06:02 PM) An...   Oct 5 2008, 02:32 AM
- - HappyDaze   QUOTE (I have no clue what shooting culture is lik...   Oct 5 2008, 03:04 AM
|- - dog_xinu   QUOTE (HappyDaze @ Oct 4 2008, 10:04 PM) ...   Oct 6 2008, 06:25 PM
- - hyzmarca   9x19 may have higher muzzle velocity, but .45 ACP ...   Oct 5 2008, 03:22 AM
|- - psychophipps   QUOTE (hyzmarca @ Oct 4 2008, 07:22 PM) 9...   Oct 5 2008, 01:07 PM
- - Red_Cap   Ugh. I hate the 9mm, no matter how you strech or ...   Oct 5 2008, 09:04 PM
|- - Janice   QUOTE (Red_Cap @ Oct 5 2008, 02:04 PM) Ug...   Oct 5 2008, 09:26 PM
|- - psychophipps   QUOTE (Red_Cap @ Oct 5 2008, 02:04 PM) Ug...   Oct 5 2008, 10:19 PM
|- - Janice   QUOTE (psychophipps @ Oct 5 2008, 02:19 P...   Oct 5 2008, 10:31 PM
||- - Red_Cap   QUOTE (Janice @ Oct 5 2008, 04:31 PM) Isn...   Oct 6 2008, 09:25 AM
|||- - psychophipps   QUOTE (Red_Cap @ Oct 6 2008, 01:25 AM) Ye...   Oct 6 2008, 11:56 AM
|||- - Tarantula   QUOTE (psychophipps @ Oct 6 2008, 04:56 A...   Oct 6 2008, 03:22 PM
|||- - psychophipps   QUOTE (Tarantula @ Oct 6 2008, 07:22 AM) ...   Oct 6 2008, 05:51 PM
||- - psychophipps   QUOTE (Janice @ Oct 5 2008, 02:31 PM) Isn...   Oct 6 2008, 11:51 AM
|- - Janice   QUOTE (psychophipps @ Oct 5 2008, 02:19 P...   Oct 8 2008, 02:50 AM
|- - psychophipps   QUOTE (Janice @ Oct 7 2008, 07:50 PM) Wou...   Oct 8 2008, 05:02 AM
|- - Janice   QUOTE (psychophipps @ Oct 7 2008, 09:02 P...   Oct 8 2008, 06:12 AM
- - Ed_209a   I used to fall into the "Lettest thou not ent...   Oct 6 2008, 03:15 PM
- - Tarantula   I've been doing some digging around, about the...   Oct 6 2008, 07:08 PM
|- - Red_Cap   QUOTE (Tarantula @ Oct 6 2008, 01:08 PM) ...   Oct 7 2008, 10:14 AM
- - hyzmarca   The Geneva Convention doesn't address ammo, at...   Oct 6 2008, 07:58 PM
|- - Camouflage   QUOTE (hyzmarca @ Oct 6 2008, 08:58 PM) T...   Oct 7 2008, 10:44 AM
|- - psychophipps   QUOTE (Camouflage @ Oct 7 2008, 02:44 AM)...   Oct 7 2008, 05:54 PM
|- - hyzmarca   QUOTE (Camouflage @ Oct 7 2008, 05:44 AM)...   Oct 7 2008, 08:33 PM
- - Tarantula   I think its bullets that intentionally fragment af...   Oct 7 2008, 06:10 PM
- - Camouflage   Tarantula is right. Sorry for the sloppy wording. ...   Oct 7 2008, 07:15 PM
- - kzt   German 7.62 MM NATO rounds also break up. Unlike i...   Oct 7 2008, 07:47 PM
|- - Ed_209a   QUOTE (kzt @ Oct 7 2008, 02:47 PM) German...   Oct 7 2008, 08:05 PM
- - Tarantula   To put it in SR terms... regular ammo would be fin...   Oct 7 2008, 07:50 PM
- - Tarantula   Aren't fragmenting bullets a type of expanding...   Oct 7 2008, 08:46 PM
- - Camouflage   QUOTE (hyzmarca @ Oct 7 2008, 09:33 PM) A...   Oct 7 2008, 08:51 PM
|- - hyzmarca   QUOTE (Camouflage @ Oct 7 2008, 03:51 PM)...   Oct 7 2008, 09:23 PM
- - Tarantula   Dictionary.com definition for expand: 1. to increa...   Oct 7 2008, 09:32 PM
|- - hyzmarca   QUOTE (Tarantula @ Oct 7 2008, 04:32 PM) ...   Oct 7 2008, 09:42 PM
- - Camouflage   Btw: The point about the Hague Convention talking ...   Oct 7 2008, 10:00 PM
- - Tarantula   By definition, breaking into little pieces is also...   Oct 7 2008, 10:02 PM
- - Camouflage   Ah, I found what I was refering to above: From th...   Oct 7 2008, 10:11 PM
- - psychophipps   One thing to keep in mind is that during the Hague...   Oct 8 2008, 02:42 AM
- - Tzeentch   Operational Law Handbook (2006) http://www.au.af.m...   Oct 8 2008, 07:03 AM


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