 Legwork Discussion, Is it legging or is it sitting? |
 Oct 29 2008, 06:45 PM
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I was in a discussion a few weeks ago here on DS where someone expressed some frustration with the Legwork in SR4. Their complaint was that Legwork has now become dominated by the Hacker while everyone waits around for their Data Search tests to be done. I'm not starting this thread to argue about that or SR4 rules. I would like to start a discussion about how Legwork is run in your games.
Does Legwork involve everyone, or is it all done by one role (Face, Hacker)? If it involves everyone, how? Does Legwork drag and slow down the action in your games? If not, how are you keeping it upbeat? Lets start sharing how Legwork is done in our games and maybe gets some synergy ideas going. No gripe sessions please. |
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Malachi Legwork Discussion Oct 29 2008, 06:45 PM
Malachi I suppose I'll "throw the first coin in... Oct 29 2008, 07:43 PM damaleon Some basic legwork activities I've done:
Hacki... Oct 29 2008, 07:51 PM DocTaotsu That's the general model we used. Flipping at... Oct 29 2008, 07:52 PM Tarantula Flipping attention is how we do it too. I am also... Oct 29 2008, 08:03 PM Wesley Street I separate snooping, i.e. surveying the target of ... Oct 29 2008, 08:33 PM Tarantula Just an FYI, data search thresholds are 4, 8, 12, ... Oct 29 2008, 08:41 PM
Wesley Street QUOTE (Tarantula @ Oct 29 2008, 03:41 PM)... Oct 30 2008, 01:59 PM DireRadiant Data Search - Go Hacker..
Knowledge Skills - Does ... Oct 29 2008, 08:48 PM Hammer My group all participates in legwork. They delega... Oct 29 2008, 08:53 PM Malachi There are times when my players want to do somethi... Oct 29 2008, 09:00 PM Malachi I remembered an interesting little bit here that m... Oct 29 2008, 10:44 PM Aaron What I do is I make sure that Matrix searches rare... Oct 29 2008, 11:22 PM Cain Every game I've played in has had the decker d... Oct 30 2008, 12:00 AM Malachi QUOTE (Cain @ Oct 29 2008, 08:00 PM) Even... Oct 30 2008, 05:17 AM CoyoteNZ QUOTE (Malachi @ Oct 30 2008, 06:17 PM) C... Oct 30 2008, 05:56 AM tete QUOTE (Cain @ Oct 30 2008, 12:00 AM) Ever... Oct 30 2008, 04:13 PM Wesley Street QUOTE (tete @ Oct 30 2008, 11:13 AM) I... Oct 30 2008, 05:28 PM Trillinon The solution I found for the legwork problem was t... Oct 30 2008, 12:47 AM Tarantula I think he was saying you're not breaking into... Oct 30 2008, 01:26 PM Prime Mover Something I've noticed in recent games is the ... Oct 30 2008, 02:05 PM Blade In the campaign I play in, we don't have any h... Oct 30 2008, 03:47 PM Malachi Of course the Hacker will want to do everything in... Oct 30 2008, 03:49 PM Blade I still don't see what's wrong with the ma... Oct 30 2008, 04:21 PM Cain QUOTE A face with a Rolodex of well-placed contact... Oct 30 2008, 06:49 PM tete QUOTE (Cain @ Oct 30 2008, 06:49 PM) But ... Oct 30 2008, 07:38 PM Cain QUOTE (tete @ Oct 30 2008, 12:38 PM) I wo... Oct 30 2008, 07:45 PM Blade QUOTE (Cain)A Data Search is safe, and free.
Heh, ... Oct 30 2008, 08:06 PM Cain QUOTE (Blade @ Oct 30 2008, 01:06 PM) Heh... Oct 30 2008, 08:19 PM Wesley Street QUOTE (Cain @ Oct 30 2008, 04:19 PM) And ... Oct 30 2008, 08:58 PM Cain And for the third time, it wasn't just one GM.... Oct 30 2008, 09:09 PM Backgammon I think Cain has a valid point, but in the end it ... Oct 30 2008, 09:27 PM Tarantula Sorry, but the "fixed" adventures rather... Oct 30 2008, 09:29 PM Wesley Street Unless that Catalyst Commando was the developer wh... Oct 30 2008, 09:35 PM Malachi As far as RPGs go, I don't put much stalk in t... Oct 30 2008, 09:56 PM Cain QUOTE (Malachi @ Oct 30 2008, 02:56 PM) I... Oct 30 2008, 10:58 PM Cain QUOTE Doesn't mean there's a system error,... Oct 30 2008, 10:43 PM MaxMahem My favorite quote from last time we discussed this... Oct 31 2008, 12:54 AM the_real_elwood I always figured that legwork would usually includ... Oct 31 2008, 01:06 AM Cain None of that changes the fact that, while the deck... Oct 31 2008, 01:18 AM MaxMahem QUOTE (Cain @ Oct 30 2008, 08:18 PM) None... Oct 31 2008, 01:51 AM the_real_elwood QUOTE (Cain @ Oct 30 2008, 07:18 PM) None... Oct 31 2008, 02:35 AM Kingsnake ...Man, this discussion made a lot more sense to m... Oct 31 2008, 01:29 AM Fortune I have to say that I have never experienced the pr... Oct 31 2008, 01:59 AM Blade QUOTE (Fortune @ Oct 31 2008, 02:59 AM) I... Oct 31 2008, 09:57 AM toturi QUOTE (Blade @ Oct 31 2008, 05:57 PM) Sam... Oct 31 2008, 12:46 PM Tachi QUOTE (Fortune @ Oct 30 2008, 07:59 PM) I... Oct 31 2008, 10:58 AM Cain QUOTE A typical Data Search test can be handled by... Oct 31 2008, 02:47 AM MaxMahem QUOTE (Cain @ Oct 30 2008, 09:47 PM) Now,... Oct 31 2008, 03:25 AM Cain QUOTE Your analysis of it is laughably incorrect. ... Oct 31 2008, 04:17 AM MaxMahem QUOTE (Cain @ Oct 30 2008, 11:17 PM) Nope... Oct 31 2008, 04:52 AM Cain QUOTE Consider with me for a moment. You are repea... Oct 31 2008, 05:12 AM Fortune Thanks.
Try this for starters ...
QUOTE (Shadowr... Oct 31 2008, 12:21 PM Blade I agree that the wording is sometimes (often) uncl... Oct 31 2008, 01:21 PM Cain QUOTE (Blade @ Oct 31 2008, 06:21 AM) I a... Oct 31 2008, 01:44 PM Tarantula And as I said earlier, its because of that format ... Oct 31 2008, 02:46 PM Fortune The Missions are also designed to be run within a ... Oct 31 2008, 02:53 PM Malachi QUOTE (Cain @ Oct 30 2008, 06:58 PM) But ... Oct 31 2008, 04:17 PM DireRadiant For reference. Standard text in every SR4 Denver M... Oct 31 2008, 04:30 PM Wesley Street QUOTE (DireRadiant @ Oct 31 2008, 11:30 A... Oct 31 2008, 07:25 PM MaxMahem QUOTE (DireRadiant @ Oct 31 2008, 11:30 A... Oct 31 2008, 11:03 PM Tarantula Haha, it is, missions uses house rules!!... Oct 31 2008, 07:32 PM Malachi I've always like the idea of Matrix tests usin... Oct 31 2008, 07:41 PM Tarantula Spellcasting is actually Magic + Spellcasting. Oct 31 2008, 08:44 PM Malachi QUOTE (Tarantula @ Oct 31 2008, 04:44 PM)... Oct 31 2008, 09:01 PM Tarantula Ah, yes, ok. That is a common houserule yes, and ... Oct 31 2008, 09:50 PM Blade Well Data Search+Browse is used when searching for... Oct 31 2008, 11:04 PM Cain Data Search is the exception to a lot of rules, si... Nov 1 2008, 05:26 AM Tarantula Cain: As I said, the fault is of the GM, in missio... Nov 1 2008, 04:03 PM Cain QUOTE (Tarantula @ Nov 1 2008, 09:03 AM) ... Nov 1 2008, 05:04 PM Tarantula "When a PC gets in touch with a contact, make... Nov 1 2008, 08:16 PM Cain So, in other words, Missions is using house rules?... Nov 1 2008, 11:43 PM Wesley Street QUOTE (Cain @ Nov 1 2008, 06:43 PM) So, i... Nov 2 2008, 04:44 PM Tarantula QUOTE (Cain @ Nov 1 2008, 04:43 PM) So, i... Nov 2 2008, 07:53 PM Cain QUOTE Which one is more correct? That it isn't... Nov 2 2008, 08:25 PM Tarantula No, but the only way for you to find out the infor... Nov 2 2008, 08:39 PM Cain QUOTE (Tarantula @ Nov 2 2008, 12:39 PM) ... Nov 2 2008, 09:06 PM Tarantula QUOTE (Cain @ Nov 2 2008, 02:06 PM) Or, t... Nov 3 2008, 12:38 AM Cain QUOTE (Tarantula @ Nov 2 2008, 04:38 PM) ... Nov 3 2008, 03:54 AM Wesley Street QUOTE (Cain @ Nov 2 2008, 10:54 PM) I qui... Nov 3 2008, 02:01 PM Tarantula QUOTE (Cain @ Nov 2 2008, 08:54 PM) I qui... Nov 3 2008, 02:23 PM Fortune Or it is not available on the Matrix, so there is ... Nov 2 2008, 10:06 PM dog_xinu I have done "legwork" by standing around... Nov 3 2008, 02:28 AM Fortune There are quite a few more than five different GMs... Nov 3 2008, 06:32 AM toturi To me, it is a GM problem when one GM or a very sm... Nov 3 2008, 09:07 AM Malachi Enough guessing. Let's find out how many peop... Nov 3 2008, 08:26 PM Cain QUOTE Are those five different GMs part of the sam... Nov 3 2008, 11:29 PM Wesley Street QUOTE (Cain @ Nov 3 2008, 06:29 PM) Five ... Nov 4 2008, 04:21 PM Cain QUOTE (Wesley Street @ Nov 4 2008, 08:21 ... Nov 4 2008, 06:00 PM Wesley Street QUOTE (Cain @ Nov 4 2008, 01:00 PM) It us... Nov 4 2008, 06:58 PM Cain QUOTE (Wesley Street @ Nov 4 2008, 10:58 ... Nov 4 2008, 10:12 PM DireRadiant QUOTE (Cain @ Nov 3 2008, 07:29 PM) Five ... Nov 4 2008, 05:29 PM Wasabi I attribute hacking being so popular to the increa... Nov 3 2008, 11:34 PM Tarantula With the prerequisite that someone had to be stupi... Nov 4 2008, 06:06 PM Cain QUOTE (Tarantula @ Nov 4 2008, 10:06 AM) ... Nov 4 2008, 06:31 PM Tarantula And how many people, out of the percentage with ac... Nov 4 2008, 06:49 PM Tarantula In other words, cain defaults on his hacking skill... Nov 4 2008, 10:14 PM Cain QUOTE (Tarantula @ Nov 4 2008, 02:14 PM) ... Nov 4 2008, 10:37 PM Fortune Which still isn't Data Search. Nov 4 2008, 10:47 PM Cain Social engineering, in Shadowrun at least, can con... Nov 4 2008, 11:19 PM  |
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