Nov 6 2008, 07:27 AM
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I think I blame many modern writers. I've recently started GMing for some younger Gamers (high schoolers) and they seem to default to angst/emo stuff for character depth.
Of course there are lots of other ways to add character depth. In Shadowrun a healthy relationship or good trait is odd enough to add some surprising depth. There are plenty of ways to be disfunctional and there is always the more hardboiled self loathing that you cope with using a stiff jaw and scotch. Or having something to be passionate about. Living style over substance. And so on. The question is how to "sell" that to players and get them to do it well, especially "kids" who only know hardboiled as it pertains to eggs, haven't read anything cyberpunk yet, but have read some Drek called "Twighlight" . (As a side note I think some also try to use being antisocial, a loner, or psychopathic for character depth, but really these are just standard 2D trenchcoater fare.) |
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sunnyside Character Depth without the Angst/Emo Nov 6 2008, 07:27 AM
Cain That's probably due to the age of your players... Nov 6 2008, 07:38 AM
sunnyside For their age they aren't bad at roleplaying. ... Nov 6 2008, 08:17 AM
Fuchs Check some TV and anime series, and see if you fin... Nov 6 2008, 09:05 AM
Wesley Street Have them read William S. Burroughs or watch moder... Nov 6 2008, 06:43 PM
TheOOB The funny thing is that people often times use ang... Nov 6 2008, 07:29 PM
Wounded Ronin Make them make Golgo 13 ripoffs. Nov 7 2008, 12:16 AM
Stahlseele asshole characters.
seriously, the way to go O.o ... Nov 7 2008, 12:30 AM
Mickle5125 QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Nov 6 2008, 08:30 PM)... Nov 7 2008, 04:28 AM
Rasumichin QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Nov 7 2008, 01:30 AM)... Nov 8 2008, 02:12 PM
WeaverMount >or coming up with some generic story about los... Nov 7 2008, 01:03 AM
Zombayz I've never had this problem, but then again, m... Nov 7 2008, 03:04 AM
TKDNinjaInBlack Try telling them to model character's after a ... Nov 7 2008, 04:09 AM
krayola red Bah, back when I was that age, half of my characte... Nov 7 2008, 04:19 AM
TheOOB I actually usually run new players through a game ... Nov 7 2008, 06:12 AM
crash2029 One of my favorite characters, Car, is a well-adju... Nov 7 2008, 07:45 AM
TheOOB It should be noted, that while overly angsty/emo c... Nov 7 2008, 09:13 AM
Blade Exactly. The problem with emo character is not tha... Nov 7 2008, 09:30 AM
sunnyside QUOTE (Blade @ Nov 7 2008, 04:30 AM) My r... Nov 7 2008, 12:43 PM
TKDNinjaInBlack I always try to make my players give me (as GM) so... Nov 7 2008, 01:53 PM
Aaron Somebody should come up with a list of questions o... Nov 7 2008, 03:51 PM
sunnyside QUOTE (Aaron @ Nov 7 2008, 10:51 AM) Some... Nov 7 2008, 05:19 PM
Aaron QUOTE (sunnyside @ Nov 7 2008, 11:19 AM) ... Nov 10 2008, 05:35 PM
sunnyside QUOTE (Aaron @ Nov 10 2008, 12:35 PM) Tha... Nov 10 2008, 08:52 PM
Aaron QUOTE (sunnyside @ Nov 10 2008, 02:52 PM)... Nov 10 2008, 09:13 PM
Ryu QUOTE (sunnyside @ Nov 10 2008, 09:52 PM)... Nov 10 2008, 09:35 PM
Aaron QUOTE (Ryu @ Nov 10 2008, 03:35 PM) I fou... Nov 10 2008, 11:49 PM
TheOOB Besides, the questions don't in and of themsel... Nov 7 2008, 07:03 PM
Heath Robinson Direct them to media with better writing? It... Nov 7 2008, 07:15 PM
Whipstitch A couple of good superstitions and some religion c... Nov 7 2008, 07:20 PM
Fortune I don't really see the problem with letting a ... Nov 7 2008, 10:07 PM
MaxMahem QUOTE (Fortune @ Nov 7 2008, 05:07 PM) I ... Nov 12 2008, 07:11 AM
masterofm The best answer is the question why? If they can... Nov 7 2008, 11:16 PM
ElFenrir Also keep in mind with the whole angst/emo thing, ... Nov 8 2008, 12:18 AM
Whipstitch It's also hard to have a 100% super happy life... Nov 8 2008, 12:41 AM
ElFenrir I think the key is balancing the angst/tragedy to ... Nov 8 2008, 12:51 AM
shuya while i agree that using angst as your only charac... Nov 8 2008, 01:06 AM
sunnyside Ya know I'm getting the feeling a lot of peopl... Nov 8 2008, 07:09 AM
TheOOB QUOTE (sunnyside @ Nov 8 2008, 02:09 AM) ... Nov 8 2008, 09:49 AM
WeaverMount getting back to the OP. One thing you might do is ... Nov 8 2008, 09:32 AM
Tachi Emo is so ridiculous that I have just invented a n... Nov 8 2008, 10:23 AM
Wesley Street QUOTE (Tachi @ Nov 8 2008, 05:23 AM) Emo ... Nov 9 2008, 06:33 PM
Stahlseele so would it be emo do to a facepalm and ask in a w... Nov 8 2008, 01:12 PM
Tachi Yes. Nov 8 2008, 01:18 PM
It trolls! I define Emo as the celebration of Weltschmerz. Co... Nov 8 2008, 01:49 PM
Fortune I'm sorry, but I really can't take 'Em... Nov 8 2008, 02:02 PM
sunnyside Since we're talking about emo the thing that r... Nov 9 2008, 11:17 PM
Fortune "As I sit in the grimy Puyallup laundromat, w... Nov 10 2008, 12:07 AM
Zombayz QUOTE (Fortune @ Nov 9 2008, 04:07 PM) ... Nov 10 2008, 12:37 AM
sunnyside QUOTE (Zombayz @ Nov 9 2008, 07:37 PM) I... Nov 10 2008, 12:44 AM
Fuchs To offer a counterpoint - imagine if you'd onl... Nov 10 2008, 08:10 AM
Tachi QUOTE (Wesley Street @ Nov 9 2008, 11:33 ... Nov 10 2008, 08:45 AM
sunnyside I got a new player today. (Don't mind the ... Nov 10 2008, 02:25 PM
Sir_Psycho I think the real problem is that because these kid... Nov 10 2008, 05:05 PM
masterofm I invented a new word for emo I call it angst... Nov 10 2008, 09:48 PM
TKDNinjaInBlack QUOTE (masterofm @ Nov 10 2008, 03:48 PM)... Nov 11 2008, 04:01 AM
sunnyside Heh. Mangst.
QUOTE (masterofm @ Nov 10 200... Nov 11 2008, 12:02 PM
Rasumichin QUOTE (sunnyside @ Nov 11 2008, 01:02 PM)... Nov 11 2008, 01:09 PM
Wounded Ronin Angst is okay if it's manly. Then it's ma... Nov 11 2008, 12:46 AM
Tachi QUOTE (Wounded Ronin @ Nov 10 2008, 05:46... Nov 11 2008, 12:53 PM
Platinum Dragon QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Nov 9 2008, 12:12 AM)... Nov 11 2008, 05:42 AM
masterofm I think what everyone has gotten at, but has never... Nov 11 2008, 11:56 AM
masterofm I'm 25.
However even though I was never reall... Nov 11 2008, 12:20 PM
masterofm Let me attempt to add some flavor to this characte... Nov 11 2008, 12:50 PM
WeaverMount QUOTE (masterofm @ Nov 11 2008, 07:50 AM)... Nov 11 2008, 08:42 PM
sunnyside QUOTE (WeaverMount @ Nov 11 2008, 03:42 P... Nov 11 2008, 10:13 PM
sunnyside @masterofm 90% good stuff
10% http://www.shamus... Nov 11 2008, 03:14 PM
Heath Robinson QUOTE (sunnyside @ Nov 11 2008, 03:14 PM)... Nov 11 2008, 09:15 PM
sunnyside QUOTE (Heath Robinson @ Nov 11 2008, 04:1... Nov 11 2008, 10:12 PM
Heath Robinson QUOTE (sunnyside @ Nov 11 2008, 10:12 PM)... Nov 11 2008, 11:29 PM
sunnyside QUOTE (Heath Robinson @ Nov 11 2008, 06:2... Nov 11 2008, 11:42 PM
Wounded Ronin QUOTE (sunnyside @ Nov 11 2008, 07:42 PM)... Nov 12 2008, 02:53 AM
masterofm I didn't really take all that much time making... Nov 11 2008, 06:46 PM
masterofm I was going for a very common name. Didn't ev... Nov 11 2008, 10:23 PM
Wounded Ronin More on topic, here is Van Damme attempting to por... Nov 12 2008, 03:15 AM
sunnyside QUOTE (Wounded Ronin @ Nov 11 2008, 10:15... Nov 12 2008, 07:16 AM
Cthulhudreams mangst == best call ever. Nov 12 2008, 04:54 AM
masterofm Or you could take their crummy 2d story and make i... Nov 12 2008, 08:48 AM
Fuchs I'd not say those backgrounds are lame or stup... Nov 12 2008, 09:26 AM
masterofm You know I am the only person who has offered cons... Nov 12 2008, 02:51 PM
sunnyside QUOTE (masterofm @ Nov 12 2008, 09:51 AM)... Nov 12 2008, 09:54 PM
Platinum Dragon Nothing like blistering 45 degree days (Celcius, o... Nov 13 2008, 01:33 AM
Wounded Ronin Have her character break a nail whenever she opera... Nov 13 2008, 03:54 AM
TKDNinjaInBlack Well, to be honest, I couldn't care less about... Nov 16 2008, 10:55 PM
sunnyside QUOTE (TKDNinjaInBlack @ Nov 16 2008, 05... Nov 17 2008, 06:30 AM
Wounded Ronin Heh, well, practically speaking, yeah. Nov 17 2008, 02:04 AM
Stahlseele *snickers*
i imagine some barbie blondes trying t... Nov 17 2008, 09:15 AM![]() ![]() |
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