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Ruin-Gar
post Nov 12 2008, 06:03 AM
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Ok, so I think I'm doing something wrong. See, no matter how tough I think my NPC's are, they seem to never be able to lay a finger on my PC's, and my players kill everything way too fast, and way too easy. Like, super easy. Tonight they took down a freaking wendigo in like, three rounds. What the hell. Any advice? Should I just give everything craploads of armor and dish out extra boxes of Physical Damage? To give some perspective, the PC's karma ranges between 12 and 16. I'm not entirely sure of the scale of power in SR4 yet (kinda new).

Thanks for any help.
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- Ruin-Gar   My players are too tough   Nov 12 2008, 06:03 AM
- - fistandantilus4.0   First, running more will help get a better grasp o...   Nov 12 2008, 06:15 AM
- - Muspellsheimr   Shadowrun is a game of glass cannons (or Eggshells...   Nov 12 2008, 06:22 AM
- - TheOOB   The real thing you have to ask yourself is, ...   Nov 12 2008, 06:31 AM
- - Sir_Psycho   Get your NPCs in groups (waves even), have them fi...   Nov 12 2008, 07:25 AM
- - sunnyside   They key thing in Shadowrun combat, even in SR4, i...   Nov 12 2008, 07:29 AM
|- - TheOOB   QUOTE (sunnyside @ Nov 12 2008, 02:29 AM)...   Nov 12 2008, 07:50 AM
|- - sunnyside   QUOTE (TheOOB @ Nov 12 2008, 02:50 AM) I ...   Nov 12 2008, 07:59 AM
- - kzt   SR, like most games using guns, has some significa...   Nov 12 2008, 07:56 AM
- - Snowfall   Personally, when I throw something at the characte...   Nov 12 2008, 08:19 AM
- - Ruin-Gar   Wow, thanks for the responses. I hate to admit, b...   Nov 12 2008, 05:24 PM
|- - sunnyside   QUOTE (Ruin-Gar @ Nov 12 2008, 12:24...   Nov 12 2008, 06:50 PM
- - Stahlseele   officially they travel at the speed of sound or li...   Nov 12 2008, 05:29 PM
- - streetangelj   Lone Star response time are really up to you, but ...   Nov 12 2008, 05:37 PM
- - Drogos   Lone Star response time is whatever is dramaticall...   Nov 12 2008, 06:16 PM
|- - Karaden   QUOTE (Drogos @ Nov 12 2008, 01:16 PM) Lo...   Nov 12 2008, 07:18 PM
- - masterofm   Hit them with a tactical nuke? Escalation. First...   Nov 12 2008, 06:57 PM
- - Warlordtheft   For response time by lonestar to a public disturba...   Nov 12 2008, 07:01 PM
- - Drogos   I agree with overwhelming numbers but a police for...   Nov 12 2008, 07:03 PM
|- - BlueMax   Original subject: Modifiers and mass numbers. The...   Nov 12 2008, 07:13 PM
|- - sunnyside   QUOTE (Drogos @ Nov 12 2008, 02:03 PM) I ...   Nov 12 2008, 07:20 PM
|- - kzt   QUOTE (Drogos @ Nov 12 2008, 12:03 PM) I ...   Nov 12 2008, 08:14 PM
- - Cantankerous   First off, I'm a 3rd edition GM so not ALL of ...   Nov 12 2008, 07:06 PM
- - Drogos   That type of mentality is for when collateral dama...   Nov 12 2008, 07:25 PM
- - krayola red   Don't forget about Edge! Give all your NPC...   Nov 12 2008, 07:26 PM
- - Ruin-Gar   QUOTE (krayola red @ Nov 12 2008, 02:26 P...   Nov 12 2008, 08:12 PM
- - Muspellsheimr   Grunts are supposed to possess a "Group Edge...   Nov 12 2008, 08:30 PM
- - Fortune   As has been said ... Mooks, Modifiers and Tactics ...   Nov 12 2008, 08:33 PM
- - krayola red   You gotta remember to be selective with modifiers ...   Nov 12 2008, 08:47 PM
- - DocTaotsu   Some other things: Area jammers + wi-fi inhibiting...   Nov 12 2008, 09:34 PM
|- - Rasumichin   QUOTE (DocTaotsu @ Nov 12 2008, 10:34 PM)...   Nov 12 2008, 10:48 PM
- - hyzmarca   Three words for ya: Fully Destructible Environment...   Nov 12 2008, 10:11 PM
- - DocTaotsu   Go watch Aliens and Predator and then run that enc...   Nov 12 2008, 10:12 PM
- - Kurious   This thread is so full of win. Don't limit yo...   Nov 12 2008, 10:48 PM
- - Muspellsheimr   SQUIRRELS! Seriously, squirrels are the sourc...   Nov 12 2008, 11:21 PM
- - masterofm   They shoot their teeth you know.   Nov 13 2008, 12:20 AM
- - Cardul   Just one thing: BOOM, baby, boom! Seriously: ...   Nov 13 2008, 06:10 AM
- - kzt   In many ways I think it's better for the playe...   Nov 13 2008, 07:03 AM
- - Rasumichin   Of course, there are players who would never consi...   Nov 13 2008, 12:21 PM
|- - Sceptic   QUOTE (Rasumichin @ Nov 14 2008, 01:21 AM...   Nov 13 2008, 12:53 PM
- - ornot   If a player is too dumb to retreat when he's b...   Nov 13 2008, 01:42 PM
- - Ravor   Agreed ornot, death is the only cure for the stupi...   Nov 13 2008, 05:05 PM
- - MaxMahem   I think one thing that is important to remember (a...   Nov 14 2008, 12:14 AM
- - DocTaotsu   This is certainly true. Your job as a GM is to gi...   Nov 14 2008, 04:06 AM
- - hyzmarca   No, you don't pull out another Wendigo to up t...   Nov 14 2008, 04:21 AM
|- - krayola red   QUOTE (hyzmarca @ Nov 13 2008, 09:21 PM) ...   Nov 15 2008, 02:11 AM
|- - hyzmarca   QUOTE (krayola red @ Nov 14 2008, 09:11 P...   Nov 15 2008, 02:37 AM
- - DocTaotsu   What hyz said. That's so much cooler than an ...   Nov 14 2008, 04:27 AM
- - kzt   As a player, if I carefully figure out how to crus...   Nov 14 2008, 04:44 AM
- - DocTaotsu   Yeah, you definitely want to avoid voiding all you...   Nov 14 2008, 05:10 AM
- - Hagga   Someone on /tg/ pointed out a while back that the ...   Nov 14 2008, 05:20 AM
- - Ravor   I have to disagree, I think it is bad DMing to scu...   Nov 14 2008, 09:39 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (krayola red @ Nov 15 2008, 04:11 A...   Nov 15 2008, 02:39 AM


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