Jan 17 2009, 06:51 AM
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5 Joined: 17-January 09 From: Houston, Texas Member No.: 16,784 |
Let me begin by apologizing to everyone if this question has been asked before, but I did a search and could not find it on the board; I was equally not able to turn up the answer to my question when reading the SR4 errata.
I am experiencing some confusion understanding the rules pertaining to flechette rules (especially in relation to shotguns) in SR4. I have played Shadowrun from version 1 to 3, but am just now taking up version 4, so I do have some background knowledge as to game concepts, but I am really baffled here. A lot of changes from SR2/3 to 4! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rotate.gif) When I read the rules for the shotguns firing buckshot with a tight choke, it tells me to use standard damage values of +2DV, +2AP. Okay, that I understand. But on the same page, it says to use the rules for flechettes when firing buckshot. So I look up the rules for flechettes later in the SR4 sourcebook, and it tells me that they are +2DV, but "the effective value" for Impact Armor is adjusted +5AP. This is where I am confused. When it says "the effective value" above, does that mean that the effective value of the Impact Armor is +5AP only to determine if it inflicts Stun vs. Physical damage? Or is it +5AP instead of +2AP as noted in the shotgun rules? I am quite confused. On an off-topic, as someone who has fired 3-inch 00 buckshot...that stuff can kill a black bear! I can understand some regular shot being tame but...I guess that's just my opinion. Why SR has always made it so weak is beyond me. I don't know anything about real-life body armor so for all I know it might stop buckshot... |
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Sortilege Flechette Round Rule Confusion (especially pertaining to shotguns) Jan 17 2009, 06:51 AM
Muspellsheimr http://shadowrun4.com/resources/sr4/sr4_errata_v18... Jan 17 2009, 07:54 AM
Beetle Your rules are a tad out of date, check the link M... Jan 17 2009, 03:29 PM
Wounded Ronin QUOTE (Beetle @ Jan 17 2009, 11:29 AM) wh... Jan 18 2009, 03:16 AM
Sortilege QUOTE (Wounded Ronin @ Jan 17 2009, 09:16... Jan 18 2009, 04:14 AM
kzt QUOTE (Sortilege @ Jan 17 2009, 09:14 PM)... Jan 18 2009, 05:35 AM
Falconer Also remember that if the target has no armor, it ... Jan 17 2009, 03:57 PM
Dr Funfrock Sort of related to this topic, have the devs said ... Jan 17 2009, 04:19 PM
Beetle QUOTE (Dr Funfrock @ Jan 17 2009, 11:19 A... Jan 17 2009, 04:49 PM
Warlordtheft QUOTE (Beetle @ Jan 17 2009, 11:49 AM) Wh... Jan 17 2009, 05:36 PM
Fix-it QUOTE (Sortilege @ Jan 17 2009, 12:51 AM)... Jan 17 2009, 05:51 PM
Warlordtheft Here's a primer on body armor. http://en.wikip... Jan 17 2009, 06:02 PM
Dr Funfrock Given the fairly ridiculous damage being done (9P ... Jan 17 2009, 06:26 PM
hobgoblin well, a assault rifle firing long bursts can do so... Jan 17 2009, 06:38 PM
GrinderTheTroll QUOTE (Sortilege @ Jan 16 2009, 10:51 PM)... Jan 17 2009, 06:49 PM
hobgoblin spell grounding was removed back in SR3... Jan 17 2009, 06:58 PM
Squinky My only beef with Flechette ammunition is the cost... Jan 17 2009, 09:31 PM
AngelisStorm QUOTE (Squinky @ Jan 17 2009, 04:31 PM) M... Jan 18 2009, 02:06 AM
Fix-it no. there is a difference between Flechettes and B... Jan 17 2009, 09:46 PM
kzt Not in the comic books that whoever wrote the gun ... Jan 17 2009, 09:53 PM
hobgoblin rule of cool... Jan 17 2009, 10:07 PM
Sortilege Thanks all for the replies and clarification. I a... Jan 17 2009, 11:17 PM
Muspellsheimr I would just like to say:
Fiendish Dire Chicken S... Jan 17 2009, 11:47 PM
Dr Funfrock It's actually specifically stated in the rules... Jan 18 2009, 03:36 AM
Sortilege QUOTE (Dr Funfrock @ Jan 17 2009, 09:36 P... Jan 18 2009, 04:20 AM
Dr Funfrock Yeah, people will always complain when a particula... Jan 18 2009, 04:21 AM
Wounded Ronin QUOTE (Dr Funfrock @ Jan 18 2009, 12:21 A... Jan 18 2009, 06:07 AM
Dr Funfrock Yeah, it's just the one that people immediatel... Jan 18 2009, 06:10 AM
Wounded Ronin QUOTE (Dr Funfrock @ Jan 18 2009, 01:10 A... Jan 18 2009, 07:04 AM
Dr Funfrock QUOTE (Wounded Ronin @ Jan 18 2009, 02:04... Jan 18 2009, 05:35 PM
Wounded Ronin QUOTE (Dr Funfrock @ Jan 18 2009, 12:35 P... Jan 18 2009, 06:44 PM
kzt I like the previous attempt by one of authors of S... Jan 18 2009, 06:27 AM
AngelisStorm ... where as a stick of dynamite held in your hand... Jan 18 2009, 06:59 AM
hobgoblin QUOTE (AngelisStorm @ Jan 18 2009, 07:59 ... Jan 18 2009, 01:11 PM
Dr Funfrock Not personally, but other, more adventurous souls ... Jan 19 2009, 04:06 AM![]() ![]() |
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