 Hermetic mages with mentor spirits?, Just seems odd to me. |
 Feb 17 2009, 08:26 AM
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Perhaps it's because I started with 1st edition, but the idea of hermetic mages having mentor spirits in 4th ed. seems odd to me. Sure, it's legal, but is it "right?"
The whole hermetic tradition is based on a rational approach using the scientific method. Everything can be explained and quantified, eventually. So having a big part of a mage's life be an unknowable spirit doesn't seem to add up. It's like Stephen Hawking making his discoveries with the help of the spirit of the ocean, or a talking bear or Odin. It seems like the first thing a hermetic would do is try to figure out exactly what the voice in his head is and how it can teach him new magic that he himself doesn't know. Shamans don't mind this sort of thing... for them, it's just the way things are, part of the natural order, but it strikes me as the antithesis of the hermetic path. Who's run a hermetic mage with a mentor spirit? How did it go? |
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Knight Saber Hermetic mages with mentor spirits? Feb 17 2009, 08:26 AM
Synner667 For me and others, the whole Hermetics and Shamen ... Feb 17 2009, 08:33 AM
ThreeGee QUOTE (Synner667 @ Feb 17 2009, 03:33 AM)... Feb 18 2009, 07:54 AM Synner667 QUOTE (ThreeGee @ Feb 18 2009, 07:54 AM) ... Feb 18 2009, 08:49 AM Demonseed Elite QUOTE (Synner667 @ Feb 18 2009, 03:49 AM)... Feb 18 2009, 01:13 PM ThreeGee QUOTE (Synner667 @ Feb 18 2009, 03:49 AM)... Feb 18 2009, 01:19 PM Degausser You could just think about it otherwise. Instead ... Feb 17 2009, 08:50 AM Hagga To Hermetics, these spirits are things that help t... Feb 17 2009, 11:21 AM Synner It helps if you don't make the mistake of iden... Feb 17 2009, 12:03 PM BlueMax QUOTE (Synner @ Feb 17 2009, 04:03 AM) It... Feb 17 2009, 03:59 PM Degausser While we are on the subject, it says in the book t... Feb 17 2009, 12:22 PM Hagga Yes. Yes you can. Spirit alignments are for things... Feb 17 2009, 12:27 PM AllTheNothing Once I had a phoenix hermetic mage, he almost died... Feb 17 2009, 01:03 PM paws2sky You can also look as Hermetic mentor spirits as as... Feb 17 2009, 01:11 PM ornot I like that mentor spirits are not exclusively ani... Feb 17 2009, 01:43 PM Synner667 I've always been a fan of the packages that HE... Feb 17 2009, 01:49 PM The_Vanguard Mentor spirits also go very well with theurges. Ch... Feb 17 2009, 02:08 PM AWOL_Seraphim Most of the points I wanted to make have already b... Feb 17 2009, 03:09 PM Speed Wraith Heck, if I played a Hermetic, I'd probably foc... Feb 17 2009, 04:44 PM Demonseed Elite It's a troubling change to get used to if your... Feb 17 2009, 05:30 PM Warlordtheft QUOTE (Demonseed Elite @ Feb 17 2009, 12... Feb 18 2009, 04:08 AM hazemyth In actual hermetic/gnostic philosophy, some believ... Feb 18 2009, 01:49 AM Prospero Actually, the unified magic system that allows for... Feb 18 2009, 02:15 AM BlueMax QUOTE (Prospero @ Feb 17 2009, 06:15 PM) ... Feb 18 2009, 02:38 AM Prospero QUOTE (BlueMax @ Feb 18 2009, 03:38 AM) P... Feb 19 2009, 06:34 AM BlueMax QUOTE (Prospero @ Feb 18 2009, 10:34 PM) ... Feb 19 2009, 06:41 AM Shinobi Killfist I just view it as a pact of some kind and then it ... Feb 18 2009, 03:03 AM TheOOB Hermetic mages would certainly have mentor spirits... Feb 18 2009, 08:36 AM TheOOB Historical accuracy don't mean squat for magic... Feb 18 2009, 09:27 AM Hagga The One Thing I cannot stand about the idea of men... Feb 18 2009, 01:34 PM hobgoblin hey, if you dont like it, dont bargain with the de... Feb 18 2009, 01:44 PM jzn I love that they tried to make it a modular system... Feb 19 2009, 07:32 AM TheOOB One might say it is up to the player to make their... Feb 19 2009, 09:15 AM BlueMax QUOTE (TheOOB @ Feb 19 2009, 01:15 AM) On... Feb 19 2009, 02:14 PM Demonseed Elite Besides, there are avenues available to players an... Feb 19 2009, 01:54 PM hobgoblin different dishes with the same basic building bloc... Feb 19 2009, 02:55 PM  |
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