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JTNLANGE
post Mar 23 2009, 05:20 PM
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I think some of the discussions on these forums over these changes has its roots in role vs roll. The group I play with is much more into storytelling and entertainment then rolling dice and applying results. I am not trying to say either is better or worse then the other, I am just saying as a personal group preference, my players will handicap their characters to tell a good story. I currently have a player running a troll shaman who just learned his powers. He is the only spellslinger in the group. He started out with a magic of 3 and is still unsure how to conjure spirits. While some may say that this is no fun as he can't sling any major mojo and might actually hurt a team, Part of the game for that player is the journey to unlocking more magical secrets. All goes to preference I think. I love wiping out loads of henchmen in a single blow and level whole buildings with nothing but my mind, and We do play that way on occasion, but for the most part we tell a story. Anyone else have any insight as to the roll vs role thing

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- JTNLANGE   Roleplay vs. Rollplay   Mar 23 2009, 05:20 PM
- - Pendaric   I would love to have this conversation. This is pl...   Mar 23 2009, 06:25 PM
- - yukongil   I agree with Pen, a roleplaying game must be a bal...   Mar 23 2009, 06:35 PM
- - JTNLANGE   I agree, I think you do need a good mix of the 2. ...   Mar 23 2009, 06:45 PM
- - nezumi   No, you play whichever one your group wants to pla...   Mar 23 2009, 08:43 PM
- - yukongil   which begs the question; are you playing Shadowrun...   Mar 23 2009, 08:49 PM
- - Chrysalis   Is it Shadowrun if I play a game of Escape from Ne...   Mar 23 2009, 09:07 PM
|- - paws2sky   QUOTE (Chrysalis @ Mar 23 2009, 05:07 PM)...   Mar 24 2009, 01:49 PM
- - Apathy   The zeroth rule of RPGs (or any other game): The p...   Mar 23 2009, 09:46 PM
- - Sir_Psycho   I am primarily interested in context and the relat...   Mar 23 2009, 09:54 PM
- - Method   Whenever the "roll vs. role" topic pops ...   Mar 23 2009, 10:41 PM
- - Wounded Ronin   I tend to be pre-occupied with historical origins ...   Mar 23 2009, 11:37 PM
- - Cain   You don't have to gimp characters to "rol...   Mar 24 2009, 01:08 AM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (Cain @ Mar 24 2009, 09:08 AM) You ...   Mar 24 2009, 01:39 AM
|- - Tyro   QUOTE (Cain @ Mar 23 2009, 06:08 PM) You ...   Mar 24 2009, 02:55 AM
- - Degausser   There is something on the WoTC boards called the ...   Mar 24 2009, 02:05 AM
- - Bastard   I don't see the point of discussion here. It ...   Mar 24 2009, 02:45 AM
- - Bastard   I think some players feel "gimped" or ...   Mar 24 2009, 03:29 AM
- - Method   LINK   Mar 24 2009, 03:32 AM
- - Glyph   As far as the game itself is concerned, the rolepl...   Mar 24 2009, 03:44 AM
- - ElFenrir   I always put 'munchkins' in the group of ...   Mar 24 2009, 04:00 AM
- - TheOOB   I personally dislike the term "rollplay...   Mar 24 2009, 04:34 AM
- - Cain   QUOTE This includes rampant cheaty/powergamers(not...   Mar 24 2009, 05:17 AM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (Cain @ Mar 24 2009, 01:17 PM) I pr...   Mar 24 2009, 06:37 AM
|- - Dream79   QUOTE (toturi @ Mar 24 2009, 06:37 AM) Th...   Mar 24 2009, 07:45 AM
- - Method   And then of coarse you have the Dramakin Munchquee...   Mar 24 2009, 06:58 AM
- - Pendaric   I think because roleplaying is a collection of con...   Mar 24 2009, 01:44 PM
- - Bastard   I think dramakins and munchkins have problems that...   Mar 24 2009, 01:56 PM
- - Endroren   First, I'm a little confused about why everyon...   Mar 24 2009, 02:10 PM
- - Bastard   You're wrong, I hate you, hope you get VITAS a...   Mar 24 2009, 02:49 PM
|- - Endroren   QUOTE (Bastard @ Mar 24 2009, 09:49 AM) Y...   Mar 24 2009, 04:31 PM
|- - JTNLANGE   QUOTE (Endroren @ Mar 24 2009, 11:31 AM) ...   Mar 24 2009, 05:52 PM
- - Blade   In my game, when the character playing the burned-...   Mar 24 2009, 03:34 PM
- - PBI   I've been gaming now for 30 years, and maybe m...   Mar 26 2009, 07:11 PM
- - Cain   QUOTE I consider the best style to be a balance of...   Mar 26 2009, 08:25 PM
|- - PBI   QUOTE (Cain @ Mar 26 2009, 04:25 PM) That...   Mar 27 2009, 11:51 AM
- - Necro Sanct   QUOTE Above all, the rules are here to facilitate ...   Mar 26 2009, 09:47 PM
|- - Wounded Ronin   QUOTE (Necro Sanct @ Mar 26 2009, 04:47 P...   Mar 26 2009, 11:36 PM
|- - KitsuneKaze   I find your view of contemporary literature intriq...   Mar 27 2009, 12:44 AM
||- - toturi   QUOTE (KitsuneKaze @ Mar 27 2009, 08:44 A...   Mar 27 2009, 01:50 AM
|- - Rasumichin   QUOTE (Wounded Ronin @ Mar 27 2009, 12:36...   Mar 28 2009, 01:29 AM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (Rasumichin @ Mar 28 2009, 09:29 AM...   Mar 28 2009, 02:06 AM
- - Cain   That doesn't mean they're not cheating. A...   Mar 27 2009, 02:13 AM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (Cain @ Mar 27 2009, 10:13 AM) That...   Mar 27 2009, 02:42 AM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (Cain @ Mar 27 2009, 10:13 AM) That...   Mar 27 2009, 02:43 AM
- - Necro Sanct   Letter and spirit of the quote is where everyone w...   Mar 27 2009, 04:08 AM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (Necro Sanct @ Mar 27 2009, 12:08 P...   Mar 27 2009, 04:33 AM
||- - Necro Sanct   QUOTE (toturi @ Mar 26 2009, 11:33 PM) I ...   Mar 27 2009, 06:19 AM
|- - Wounded Ronin   QUOTE (Necro Sanct @ Mar 26 2009, 11:08 P...   Mar 27 2009, 11:53 PM
|- - Necro Sanct   QUOTE (Wounded Ronin @ Mar 27 2009, 06:53...   Mar 28 2009, 02:04 AM
- - Dwight   QUOTE (JTNLANGE @ Mar 23 2009, 11:20 AM) ...   Mar 27 2009, 04:41 AM
- - Rasumichin   QUOTE (Necro Sanct @ Mar 28 2009, 03:04 A...   Mar 28 2009, 04:00 AM
|- - Necro Sanct   QUOTE (Rasumichin @ Mar 27 2009, 11:00 PM...   Mar 28 2009, 05:54 AM
||- - Dwight   QUOTE (Necro Sanct @ Mar 27 2009, 10:54 P...   Mar 28 2009, 07:51 AM
|- - Dwight   QUOTE (Rasumichin @ Mar 27 2009, 09:00 PM...   Mar 28 2009, 08:05 AM
- - Tyro   Well said! *applause*   Mar 28 2009, 04:34 AM
- - PBI   I think someone upthread alluded to this, but I...   Mar 28 2009, 11:43 AM
- - Rasumichin   QUOTE (Tyro @ Mar 28 2009, 05:34 AM) Well...   Mar 28 2009, 06:09 PM
- - Necro Sanct   My last reply was touching on the preparedness lev...   Mar 29 2009, 12:16 AM
|- - Rasumichin   QUOTE (Necro Sanct @ Mar 29 2009, 01:16 A...   Mar 29 2009, 01:06 AM
|- - Dwight   QUOTE (Necro Sanct @ Mar 28 2009, 05:16 P...   Mar 29 2009, 01:29 AM
- - Warlordtheft   I'm in the same boat. I've never been to ...   Mar 29 2009, 01:21 AM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (Warlordtheft @ Mar 28 2009, 05:21 ...   Mar 29 2009, 02:00 AM
|- - Warlordtheft   QUOTE (Cain @ Mar 28 2009, 09:00 PM) Emer...   Mar 30 2009, 04:52 PM
- - Necro Sanct   Well prior to the age of computers I relied on org...   Mar 29 2009, 04:10 AM
|- - Dwight   QUOTE (Necro Sanct @ Mar 28 2009, 09:10 P...   Mar 29 2009, 05:03 AM
|- - Necro Sanct   QUOTE (Dwight @ Mar 29 2009, 12:03 AM) Ex...   Mar 29 2009, 07:36 AM
|- - Dwight   QUOTE (Necro Sanct @ Mar 29 2009, 12:36 A...   Mar 29 2009, 03:48 PM
|- - Necro Sanct   QUOTE (Dwight @ Mar 29 2009, 11:48 AM) Th...   Mar 29 2009, 07:51 PM
|- - Dwight   QUOTE (Necro Sanct @ Mar 29 2009, 12:51 P...   Mar 29 2009, 08:03 PM
- - Cain   One of the problems with SR4 is that it's very...   Mar 29 2009, 12:24 PM
|- - Dwight   QUOTE (Cain @ Mar 29 2009, 05:24 AM) One ...   Mar 29 2009, 04:13 PM
- - Cain   QUOTE Trying to build an NPC as a legal starting c...   Mar 29 2009, 04:52 PM
|- - Dwight   QUOTE (Cain @ Mar 29 2009, 09:52 AM) Even...   Mar 29 2009, 05:07 PM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (Dwight @ Mar 29 2009, 09:07 AM) Su...   Mar 29 2009, 06:39 PM
|- - Dwight   QUOTE (Cain @ Mar 29 2009, 11:39 AM) 15 f...   Mar 29 2009, 06:54 PM
- - Necro Sanct   I just don't get your reply there beyond possi...   Mar 29 2009, 09:08 PM
|- - Dwight   QUOTE (Necro Sanct @ Mar 29 2009, 02:08 P...   Mar 29 2009, 09:29 PM
- - Necro Sanct   They do sidetrack the main mission as I have noted...   Mar 29 2009, 10:25 PM
|- - Dwight   QUOTE (Necro Sanct @ Mar 29 2009, 03:25 P...   Mar 29 2009, 11:55 PM
|- - Necro Sanct   QUOTE (Dwight @ Mar 29 2009, 06:55 PM) Wh...   Mar 30 2009, 01:30 AM
|- - Dwight   QUOTE (Necro Sanct @ Mar 29 2009, 06:30 P...   Mar 30 2009, 02:43 AM
- - Synner667   Interesting conversation... Over the years, one o...   Apr 1 2009, 10:36 PM
- - Dwight   I can't say I've never heard before rolepl...   Apr 2 2009, 12:41 AM
- - Rasumichin   I wouldn't necessarily say that rules-heavy sy...   Apr 2 2009, 01:38 AM
|- - Dwight   QUOTE (Rasumichin @ Apr 1 2009, 07:38 PM)...   Apr 2 2009, 04:51 AM
- - Wounded Ronin   You know what the thing is about story versus a ga...   Apr 4 2009, 03:29 PM
- - Glyph   I agree. I may not be completely free-form, but I...   Apr 4 2009, 07:10 PM
- - Pendaric   We're discussing ref style again. In this case...   Apr 4 2009, 10:55 PM
|- - Dwight   QUOTE (Pendaric @ Apr 4 2009, 04:55 PM) R...   Apr 5 2009, 02:34 AM
- - Pendaric   Let me give you an example of how I ref, ~I enforc...   Apr 4 2009, 11:12 PM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (Pendaric @ Apr 5 2009, 07:12 AM) I...   Apr 5 2009, 01:03 AM
|- - Wounded Ronin   QUOTE (Pendaric @ Apr 4 2009, 07:12 PM) L...   Apr 5 2009, 02:31 AM
|- - Chrysalis   QUOTE (Pendaric @ Apr 5 2009, 02:12 AM) L...   Apr 5 2009, 04:48 PM
|- - Critias   QUOTE (Pendaric @ Apr 4 2009, 06:12 PM) L...   Apr 5 2009, 05:55 PM
- - Pendaric   *sigh, smile* I could list my roleplay creditials ...   Apr 5 2009, 04:16 PM
|- - Dwight   QUOTE (Pendaric @ Apr 5 2009, 10:16 AM) *...   Apr 5 2009, 05:11 PM
- - Cain   Nope, he's pretty much right. I could swap ...   Apr 5 2009, 04:47 PM
- - Pendaric   Yes it requires to you think. Am no martyr. I don...   Apr 5 2009, 11:41 PM
- - Dwight   QUOTE (Pendaric @ Apr 5 2009, 04:41 PM) R...   Apr 5 2009, 11:58 PM
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