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ArkonC
post Mar 30 2009, 10:12 PM
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All right, here's what we've got:
Of the old 750 we can use 375(or more) for attributes and we usually do...
Costs went from x3 to x5
375/3x5=625
totaling 1000 as the new starting number...
Problem: if only half can be used on attributes, we actually gain points that cannot be spent on attributes...

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- ArkonC   SR4A and KarmaGen   Mar 30 2009, 10:12 PM
- - Tycho   with the new rules 750karma is closer to 400BP, so...   Mar 30 2009, 10:16 PM
- - ElFenrir   Well, we'd probably use 1000 Karma, since we d...   Mar 30 2009, 11:19 PM
- - Aaron   Has anyone calculated the amount of Karma it would...   Mar 30 2009, 11:28 PM
|- - darthmord   QUOTE (Aaron @ Mar 30 2009, 06:28 PM) Has...   Mar 31 2009, 04:41 PM
- - cndblank   It has been a couple of months. Does anyone have ...   Jun 5 2009, 10:32 PM
- - Jhaiisiin   Just that when I did karmagen vs bp gen comparison...   Jun 5 2009, 10:34 PM
- - Ancient History   We should (eventually) have the mods up in the new...   Jun 5 2009, 10:36 PM
|- - Kerenshara   QUOTE (Ancient History @ Jun 5 2009, 06:3...   Jun 6 2009, 06:58 AM
- - Shinobi Killfist   We remade everyone one of our characters that were...   Jun 5 2009, 11:54 PM
- - Octopiii   My character made under KarmaGen (admittedly with ...   Jun 6 2009, 12:06 AM
- - Zurai   Except that they promised that Karmagen would be u...   Jun 6 2009, 12:08 AM
- - Ancient History   It will. It should be in the next errata. I distin...   Jun 6 2009, 12:29 AM
|- - BlueMax   QUOTE (Ancient History @ Jun 5 2009, 04:2...   Jun 6 2009, 12:42 AM
|- - crizh   QUOTE (Ancient History @ Jun 6 2009, 01:2...   Jun 6 2009, 01:44 AM
|- - Glyph   QUOTE (crizh @ Jun 5 2009, 05:44 PM) So i...   Jun 6 2009, 09:29 AM
|- - ElFenrir   QUOTE (Glyph @ Jun 6 2009, 05:29 AM) Add ...   Jun 6 2009, 09:39 AM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (Glyph @ Jun 6 2009, 12:29 PM) Add ...   Jun 6 2009, 11:48 AM
||- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (Mäx @ Jun 6 2009, 12:48 PM) As my...   Jun 6 2009, 02:33 PM
||- - Mäx   QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig @ Jun 6 2009, 05...   Jun 6 2009, 04:06 PM
|- - Shinobi Killfist   QUOTE (Glyph @ Jun 6 2009, 04:29 AM) Add ...   Jun 6 2009, 04:37 PM
- - Ancient History   There's some behind-the-scenes details I can...   Jun 6 2009, 01:58 AM
|- - Dragnar   QUOTE (Ancient History @ Jun 6 2009, 03:5...   Jun 6 2009, 02:08 AM
|- - Ancient History   QUOTE (Dragnar @ Jun 6 2009, 03:08 AM) I ...   Jun 6 2009, 02:10 AM
- - Dragnar   Wait, what? Wow. That's really cool. Shiny, ev...   Jun 6 2009, 02:15 AM
- - Ancient History   Well, things still have to be approved, but the ma...   Jun 6 2009, 02:21 AM
|- - The Jake   QUOTE (Ancient History @ Jun 6 2009, 03:2...   Jun 6 2009, 03:18 AM
||- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (The Jake @ Jun 6 2009, 04:18 AM) I...   Jun 6 2009, 09:45 AM
||- - ElFenrir   QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig @ Jun 6 2009, 05...   Jun 6 2009, 10:04 AM
|- - BlueMax   QUOTE (Ancient History @ Jun 5 2009, 07:2...   Jun 6 2009, 03:42 AM
- - cndblank   I agree that 750 was a little high for SR4 but goi...   Jun 6 2009, 04:15 AM
- - Falconer   Bluemax: That's only because the troll ran up ...   Jun 6 2009, 04:23 AM
|- - BlueMax   QUOTE (Falconer @ Jun 5 2009, 09:23 PM) B...   Jun 6 2009, 04:32 AM
|- - Muspellsheimr   QUOTE (BlueMax @ Jun 5 2009, 10:32 PM) I ...   Jun 6 2009, 05:05 AM
||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ Jun 5 2009, 11:05 ...   Jun 6 2009, 03:18 PM
|- - Kerenshara   QUOTE (BlueMax @ Jun 6 2009, 12:32 AM) I ...   Jun 6 2009, 07:01 AM
|- - Falconer   QUOTE (Kerenshara @ Jun 6 2009, 03:01 AM)...   Jun 6 2009, 12:04 PM
||- - Cthulhudreams   QUOTE (Falconer @ Jun 6 2009, 10:04 PM) B...   Jun 6 2009, 04:53 PM
|- - Shinobi Killfist   QUOTE (Kerenshara @ Jun 6 2009, 02:01 AM)...   Jun 6 2009, 04:42 PM
|- - Kerenshara   QUOTE (Shinobi Killfist @ Jun 6 2009, 11...   Jun 7 2009, 05:39 AM
- - Shinobi Killfist   I think there should be a cost for race so if they...   Jun 6 2009, 05:23 AM
|- - Muspellsheimr   QUOTE (Shinobi Killfist @ Jun 5 2009, 11...   Jun 6 2009, 05:41 AM
- - Glyph   I actually liked humans more under karmagen. The ...   Jun 6 2009, 10:56 AM
- - DuctShuiTengu   I actually ran the numbers, and for the sample cha...   Jun 6 2009, 03:44 PM
- - Muspellsheimr   QUOTE (Glyph @ Jun 6 2009, 02:29 AM) Add ...   Jun 6 2009, 04:07 PM
|- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (Mäx @ Jun 6 2009, 05:06 PM) Your ...   Jun 6 2009, 05:06 PM
- - Falconer   I love that... "I made a character using the ...   Jun 7 2009, 04:47 AM
- - ElFenrir   I mean, if Missions chars only allow BP, then I ha...   Jun 7 2009, 09:21 AM
- - Glyph   It really annoys me when the rule set gets drastic...   Jun 7 2009, 10:19 AM
- - Ancient History   We're not talking a re-write, kiddos. The SR4A...   Jun 7 2009, 12:14 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Ancient History @ Jun 7 2009, 06:1...   Jun 7 2009, 07:33 PM
- - Falconer   You know why this disappoints me so heavily. Karm...   Jun 7 2009, 02:56 PM
|- - Kerenshara   QUOTE (Falconer @ Jun 7 2009, 09:56 AM) Y...   Jun 7 2009, 04:43 PM
||- - Ancient History   QUOTE (Kerenshara @ Jun 7 2009, 05:43 PM)...   Jun 7 2009, 04:59 PM
||- - Kerenshara   QUOTE (Ancient History @ Jun 7 2009, 11:5...   Jun 7 2009, 05:16 PM
|- - Glyph   QUOTE (Falconer @ Jun 7 2009, 06:56 AM) G...   Jun 7 2009, 07:45 PM
- - Falconer   Karenshara... You put it right there! How can...   Jun 7 2009, 05:00 PM
- - Falconer   No freebie knowledge skills under karmagen. Disc...   Jun 7 2009, 05:22 PM
- - Ancient History   What he said. I'm gonna admit, there were som...   Jun 7 2009, 06:52 PM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (Ancient History @ Jun 7 2009, 09:5...   Jun 7 2009, 08:00 PM
- - ElFenrir   QUOTE I'm gonna admit, there were some design ...   Jun 7 2009, 07:46 PM
- - Ancient History   Well, in part it's my own damn fault. If I...   Jun 7 2009, 08:01 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Ancient History @ Jun 7 2009, 02:0...   Jun 7 2009, 08:09 PM
|- - Falconer   QUOTE (Ancient History @ Jun 7 2009, 04:0...   Jun 7 2009, 09:04 PM
||- - Ancient History   QUOTE (Falconer @ Jun 7 2009, 10:04 PM) A...   Jun 7 2009, 09:29 PM
|- - Cthulhudreams   QUOTE (Ancient History @ Jun 8 2009, 06:0...   Jun 7 2009, 10:47 PM
- - Dragnar   Huh, what's that? Why, it's Pandora's ...   Jun 7 2009, 08:06 PM
- - ElFenrir   QUOTE Well, in part it's my own damn fault. If...   Jun 7 2009, 08:29 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (ElFenrir @ Jun 7 2009, 02:29 PM) I...   Jun 7 2009, 08:41 PM
- - Glyph   The only problem I would have with that is that it...   Jun 7 2009, 09:10 PM
|- - Shinobi Killfist   QUOTE (Glyph @ Jun 7 2009, 04:10 PM) The ...   Jun 7 2009, 09:29 PM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (Shinobi Killfist @ Jun 8 2009, 12...   Jun 7 2009, 09:36 PM
|- - Shinobi Killfist   QUOTE (Mäx @ Jun 7 2009, 05:36 PM) It...   Jun 9 2009, 02:37 AM
- - Falconer   Actually glyph... your second case, where someone ...   Jun 7 2009, 09:36 PM
|- - Glyph   QUOTE (Falconer @ Jun 7 2009, 01:36 PM) P...   Jun 7 2009, 11:49 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Glyph @ Jun 7 2009, 04:49 PM) The ...   Jun 8 2009, 12:20 AM
- - ElFenrir   IMO, I'm glad I didn't see something like ...   Jun 7 2009, 09:49 PM
- - Ancient History   Uh...no? That's a real 2 + 2 = Slood thing you...   Jun 7 2009, 11:11 PM
- - Cthulhudreams   The problem is that its too expensive for trolls t...   Jun 8 2009, 12:26 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Cthulhudreams @ Jun 7 2009, 05:26 ...   Jun 8 2009, 12:38 AM
- - Falconer   CthulthuDreams... You may have the right of it......   Jun 8 2009, 12:47 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Falconer @ Jun 7 2009, 05:47 PM) C...   Jun 8 2009, 12:57 AM
- - Falconer   Tymeus: swings and roundabouts... but the same als...   Jun 8 2009, 01:12 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Falconer @ Jun 7 2009, 06:12 PM) T...   Jun 8 2009, 01:16 AM
- - Muspellsheimr   QUOTE (Mäx @ Jun 7 2009, 01:00 PM) So on...   Jun 8 2009, 01:21 AM
- - Cthulhudreams   Well, strength is a total dump attribute and shado...   Jun 8 2009, 01:38 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Cthulhudreams @ Jun 7 2009, 06:38 ...   Jun 8 2009, 02:20 AM
- - Jhaiisiin   Falconer, the only issue I see with your proposed ...   Jun 8 2009, 03:17 AM
|- - Falconer   QUOTE (Jhaiisiin @ Jun 7 2009, 11:17 PM) ...   Jun 8 2009, 03:43 AM
- - Cthulhudreams   I'm being tongue in cheek... a bit. Doing som...   Jun 8 2009, 03:21 AM
- - Jhaiisiin   Concept does not always, nor should it always equa...   Jun 8 2009, 03:25 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Jhaiisiin @ Jun 7 2009, 09:25 PM) ...   Jun 8 2009, 03:37 AM
- - Cthulhudreams   The problem is that most people arn't making t...   Jun 8 2009, 03:29 AM
|- - Jhaiisiin   QUOTE (Cthulhudreams @ Jun 7 2009, 08:29 ...   Jun 8 2009, 03:52 AM
|- - Cthulhudreams   QUOTE (Jhaiisiin @ Jun 8 2009, 01:52 PM) ...   Jun 8 2009, 04:02 AM
|- - Muspellsheimr   QUOTE (Jhaiisiin @ Jun 7 2009, 08:52 PM) ...   Jun 8 2009, 04:05 AM
- - Muspellsheimr   QUOTE (Jhaiisiin @ Jun 7 2009, 08:17 PM) ...   Jun 8 2009, 03:44 AM
- - ElFenrir   One thing I think I liked about the old system, an...   Jun 8 2009, 08:44 AM
- - Cthulhudreams   Humans were actually pretty powerful in 3rd ed D...   Jun 9 2009, 07:16 AM


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