IPB

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

Kerenshara
post Jul 7 2009, 12:33 AM
Post #1


Shooting Target
****

Group: Members
Posts: 1,894
Joined: 11-May 09
Member No.: 17,166



Dual natured beings can perceive astrally without penalty, and are treated as being in both planes at once. It clearly states (somewhere, I don't feel like digging out a cite) that astrally perceiving entities can NOT perceive physical objects with information on them like printed paper or a computer screen, as they simply show up as a vague shadowy form.

Can somebody PLEASE give me a solid answer on this (and provide the cite to back it up): Can a dual-natured creature (say, a manifesting spirit or one of the dual-natured infected) read a computer screen or a sign on the wall? Or does the "astrally perceiving" part overrule? I would THINK that they could, but I want somebody to actually show it to me in black and white, because I have given up looking myself.

Oh, and if you're just planning to post something Trollish or sarcastic, please skip to another thread. I am trying to get some honest help from the people here, and I know the question is going to sound stupid to many of you.

Thanks in advance for your help!
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post

Posts in this topic
- Kerenshara   Dual-Natured Sight   Jul 7 2009, 12:33 AM
- - Athenor   I assume it is like a toggle, where the player can...   Jul 7 2009, 01:09 AM
- - Traul   Is this what you want? QUOTE Astral perception is ...   Jul 7 2009, 01:10 AM
- - crizh   Dual Natured beings can see and assense simultaneo...   Jul 7 2009, 01:11 AM
|- - Kerenshara   QUOTE (crizh @ Jul 6 2009, 08:11 PM) Dual...   Jul 7 2009, 01:28 AM
- - Athenor   Okay, I like those responses and logic better, act...   Jul 7 2009, 01:13 AM
- - toturi   QUOTE (Kerenshara @ Jul 7 2009, 08:33 AM)...   Jul 7 2009, 01:33 AM
- - Generico   From Runner's Companion page 92 "Free Sp...   Jul 7 2009, 01:44 AM
- - Athenor   So here's a concept... What is hearing like ...   Jul 7 2009, 01:55 AM
- - Straight Razor   hear is an interesting question? can duel-natured ...   Jul 7 2009, 02:00 AM
- - Summerstorm   Sure they can. They just cannot "turn it off...   Jul 7 2009, 02:04 AM
- - Falconer   The answer is very simple Karenshara. And it...   Jul 7 2009, 02:13 AM
|- - Athenor   QUOTE (Falconer @ Jul 6 2009, 09:13 PM) I...   Jul 7 2009, 02:24 AM
- - Traul   I think there is a problem with the very definitio...   Jul 7 2009, 02:21 AM
|- - Kerenshara   QUOTE (Traul @ Jul 6 2009, 09:21 PM) I th...   Jul 7 2009, 02:42 AM
- - Falconer   Athenor, by definition a mage who is projecting is...   Jul 7 2009, 02:47 AM
- - Athenor   SR4A: QUOTE It takes a Simple Action to shift one...   Jul 7 2009, 02:50 AM
- - Falconer   Athenor: Now look at p294, under the critter power...   Jul 7 2009, 03:02 AM
- - Athenor   Invoking GM fiat doesn't fly around here, does...   Jul 7 2009, 03:24 AM
- - DireRadiant   Dual Natured = Someone with both astral perception...   Jul 7 2009, 03:40 AM
|- - Traul   QUOTE (DireRadiant @ Jul 7 2009, 05:40 AM...   Jul 7 2009, 11:59 AM
|- - Zaranthan   QUOTE (Traul @ Jul 7 2009, 07:59 AM) That...   Jul 7 2009, 02:49 PM
||- - Traul   QUOTE (Zaranthan @ Jul 7 2009, 04:49 PM) ...   Jul 7 2009, 03:24 PM
|- - DireRadiant   QUOTE (Traul @ Jul 7 2009, 06:59 AM) That...   Jul 7 2009, 04:20 PM
- - crizh   The current FAQ and RC are in dispute. The FAQ wa...   Jul 7 2009, 04:01 PM
- - Traul   Then you have a problem the other way: a metahuman...   Jul 7 2009, 05:04 PM
- - Zaranthan   You're reading both too much and not enough in...   Jul 7 2009, 06:03 PM
- - DireRadiant   Whatever. Keep Trauling away, if that's the on...   Jul 7 2009, 06:04 PM
|- - Traul   QUOTE (Zaranthan @ Jul 7 2009, 08:03 PM) ...   Jul 7 2009, 07:53 PM
- - Falconer   Crizh: Thanks for posting Synner's post. Tho...   Jul 7 2009, 09:31 PM
|- - Kerenshara   QUOTE (Falconer @ Jul 7 2009, 04:31 PM) T...   Jul 8 2009, 11:05 PM
- - Falconer   Karenshara: To each their own... I just find I pre...   Jul 9 2009, 12:52 AM
|- - Kerenshara   QUOTE (Falconer @ Jul 8 2009, 07:52 PM) K...   Jul 9 2009, 01:13 AM
- - Falconer   I'm not telling you how to play it... just rea...   Jul 9 2009, 01:39 AM
|- - Kerenshara   QUOTE (Falconer @ Jul 8 2009, 08:39 PM) I...   Jul 9 2009, 09:35 PM
- - darthmord   The way I've always interpreted it... Dual Na...   Jul 13 2009, 02:45 PM
- - Falconer   Incorrect mord... Under magic actions: "SHIF...   Jul 13 2009, 11:48 PM
|- - RedeemerofOgar   QUOTE (Falconer @ Jul 13 2009, 06:48 PM) ...   Jul 14 2009, 02:33 AM
- - darthmord   Falconer / Redeemer, You are both incorrect. Her...   Jul 16 2009, 02:46 PM
|- - Kerenshara   QUOTE (darthmord @ Jul 16 2009, 09:46 AM)...   Jul 18 2009, 10:04 PM
- - Falconer   Mord: I suspect you editted your original post... ...   Jul 19 2009, 05:57 AM
|- - crizh   QUOTE (Falconer @ Jul 19 2009, 06:57 AM) ...   Jul 19 2009, 07:14 AM
- - BishopMcQ   Running Wild will clear this up a bit, I hope. QU...   Jul 19 2009, 07:58 AM
- - crizh   To some extent that makes a lot more sense. I...   Jul 19 2009, 08:11 AM
- - BishopMcQ   Crizh--From a fluff standpoint, I can understand w...   Jul 19 2009, 08:23 AM
- - Falconer   Crizh: I have zero idea of any politics behind the...   Jul 19 2009, 03:29 PM
- - BishopMcQ   Falconer--If a critter was blinded physically, it ...   Jul 19 2009, 04:24 PM
- - Falconer   So exactly as I thought... it does offer the oppor...   Jul 19 2009, 05:04 PM
- - BishopMcQ   Astral Chaff? Mass Confusion cast on the Astral sh...   Jul 19 2009, 05:17 PM
- - Falconer   Actually no... confusion is a targetted spell (eit...   Jul 20 2009, 01:57 AM
- - darthmord   Falconer, I made no edits to any of my posts in th...   Jul 20 2009, 03:55 PM


Reply to this topicStart new topic

 

RSS Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 24th August 2025 - 05:22 AM

Topps, Inc has sole ownership of the names, logo, artwork, marks, photographs, sounds, audio, video and/or any proprietary material used in connection with the game Shadowrun. Topps, Inc has granted permission to the Dumpshock Forums to use such names, logos, artwork, marks and/or any proprietary materials for promotional and informational purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not affiliated with the Dumpshock Forums in any official capacity whatsoever.