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Kerenshara
post Jul 8 2009, 11:19 PM
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I used to like the detailed information and focus on the Native American Nations and their denizens in the earlier editions of the game, but it seems with each successive itteration of the main rules, the NAN seem to fade more and more into meta-obscurity. Does anybody else feel that way, and/or does anybody know of intentions to resurect some of the material and update it significantly for 4th ed?
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- Kerenshara   NAN Fading   Jul 8 2009, 11:19 PM
- - DireRadiant   It's history. Ancient History. The latest edit...   Jul 8 2009, 11:27 PM
|- - Kerenshara   QUOTE (DireRadiant @ Jul 8 2009, 06:27 PM...   Jul 9 2009, 12:09 AM
|- - Malachi   QUOTE (Kerenshara @ Jul 8 2009, 06:09 PM)...   Jul 9 2009, 05:58 PM
|- - kzt   QUOTE (Malachi @ Jul 9 2009, 10:58 AM) Yo...   Jul 9 2009, 09:07 PM
|- - TBRMInsanity   QUOTE (kzt @ Jul 9 2009, 03:07 PM) Shadow...   Jul 9 2009, 09:29 PM
- - kzt   IMNSHO they were a dumb idea poorly executed, and ...   Jul 8 2009, 11:27 PM
|- - Megu   QUOTE (kzt @ Jul 8 2009, 05:27 PM) IMNSHO...   Jul 9 2009, 12:11 AM
|- - tarbrush   QUOTE (Megu @ Jul 8 2009, 08:11 PM) I thi...   Jul 9 2009, 12:42 AM
||- - Megu   QUOTE (tarbrush @ Jul 8 2009, 06:42 PM) Y...   Jul 9 2009, 03:06 AM
|- - Cray74   QUOTE (Megu @ Jul 8 2009, 07:11 PM) run S...   Jul 9 2009, 05:48 PM
- - The Jake   I get the impression this is deliberate. - J.   Jul 8 2009, 11:27 PM
- - the_real_elwood   I guess you can just not talk about the NAN's,...   Jul 8 2009, 11:48 PM
|- - Kerenshara   QUOTE (the_real_elwood @ Jul 8 2009, 06:4...   Jul 8 2009, 11:54 PM
|- - kzt   QUOTE (the_real_elwood @ Jul 8 2009, 04:4...   Jul 9 2009, 04:12 AM
- - Critias   Shadows of North America is the most recent book t...   Jul 9 2009, 12:27 AM
- - The Jake   I personally found SoNA to be largely irrelevant. ...   Jul 9 2009, 12:47 AM
|- - Backgammon   QUOTE (The Jake @ Jul 8 2009, 08:47 PM) I...   Jul 9 2009, 01:13 AM
- - the_real_elwood   NAN vol. 1 and NAN vol. 2 are both quite good. An...   Jul 9 2009, 01:00 AM
|- - LurkerOutThere   I've always felt that the NAN idea was an over...   Jul 9 2009, 01:11 AM
|- - the_real_elwood   QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Jul 8 2009, 08:11...   Jul 9 2009, 01:53 AM
|- - LurkerOutThere   QUOTE (the_real_elwood @ Jul 8 2009, 08:5...   Jul 9 2009, 02:17 AM
||- - TheForgotten   QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Jul 9 2009, 03:17...   Jul 9 2009, 09:50 PM
|- - kzt   QUOTE (the_real_elwood @ Jul 8 2009, 06:5...   Jul 9 2009, 04:20 AM
|- - the_real_elwood   QUOTE (kzt @ Jul 8 2009, 11:20 PM) Umm, r...   Jul 9 2009, 05:50 AM
- - Critias   It doesn't do anyone any favors to think too h...   Jul 9 2009, 01:14 AM
- - Warlordtheft   Between extrateritorality, Vistas, elves and dwarv...   Jul 9 2009, 02:52 AM
|- - Critias   QUOTE (Warlordtheft @ Jul 8 2009, 09:52 P...   Jul 9 2009, 03:43 AM
- - Mirilion   Most of the "anglos" were just normal ci...   Jul 9 2009, 05:24 AM
- - Ravor   Personally I'm happy to see the NAN get quietl...   Jul 9 2009, 06:07 AM
|- - FlakJacket   QUOTE (Ravor @ Jul 9 2009, 07:07 AM) Pers...   Jul 9 2009, 05:30 PM
|- - LurkerOutThere   QUOTE (FlakJacket @ Jul 9 2009, 11:30 AM)...   Jul 9 2009, 05:36 PM
- - Mirilion   I compare the Great Ghost Dance to the effect of t...   Jul 9 2009, 06:56 AM
- - Ravor   Meh, magical nukes ARE impressive, but they aren...   Jul 9 2009, 07:06 AM
- - Fuchs   And that Japan was already losing the war in 1945....   Jul 9 2009, 07:12 AM
- - Mirilion   Well, something about the rightousness of the ...   Jul 9 2009, 08:21 AM
- - Ravor   *shrugs* I dislike it when the devs use the power ...   Jul 9 2009, 08:30 AM
|- - Mirilion   QUOTE (Ravor @ Jul 9 2009, 09:30 AM) Howe...   Jul 9 2009, 08:58 AM
- - LurkerOutThere   QUOTE (Mirilion @ Jul 9 2009, 12:56 AM) M...   Jul 9 2009, 10:12 AM
- - Backgammon   Don't forget the USA that effectively surrende...   Jul 9 2009, 12:39 PM
- - HappyDaze   I wonder why they didn't find a way to tie the...   Jul 9 2009, 01:21 PM
- - Garwllwyd   The way I see things, the very concept of "na...   Jul 9 2009, 02:09 PM
- - KCKitsune   I would like to know why the US was broken into so...   Jul 9 2009, 02:28 PM
|- - Critias   QUOTE (KCKitsune @ Jul 9 2009, 10:28 AM) ...   Jul 9 2009, 02:33 PM
|- - the_real_elwood   QUOTE (KCKitsune @ Jul 9 2009, 08:28 AM) ...   Jul 9 2009, 03:25 PM
- - TBRMInsanity   I think the current problem with the NAN is that i...   Jul 9 2009, 05:28 PM
- - Naysayer   Which might be why it was called "The Great G...   Jul 9 2009, 05:49 PM
- - Ravor   Mirilion feel free to ask Ancient History, maybe h...   Jul 9 2009, 06:11 PM
|- - Malachi   QUOTE (Ravor @ Jul 9 2009, 12:11 PM) Sure...   Jul 9 2009, 07:30 PM
|- - Ravor   QUOTE (Malachi @ Jul 9 2009, 12:30 PM) Ar...   Jul 9 2009, 09:35 PM
|- - Kerenshara   QUOTE (Ravor @ Jul 9 2009, 04:35 PM) No, ...   Jul 9 2009, 09:39 PM
- - knasser   Similarly to Megu, I kept the essential facts but ...   Jul 9 2009, 07:42 PM
|- - TBRMInsanity   QUOTE (knasser @ Jul 9 2009, 01:42 PM) Si...   Jul 9 2009, 08:10 PM
|- - LurkerOutThere   QUOTE (knasser @ Jul 9 2009, 02:42 PM) An...   Jul 9 2009, 09:45 PM
|- - Malachi   QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Jul 9 2009, 03:45...   Jul 9 2009, 11:10 PM
- - kzt   I can't remember. I know it was something tot...   Jul 9 2009, 09:35 PM
- - Ravor   I think you are misunderstanding the point I am tr...   Jul 9 2009, 09:49 PM
- - Ravor   Not really because the Awakening was happening wor...   Jul 9 2009, 09:54 PM
- - Mirilion   The shadowrun storyline is most emphatically NOT s...   Jul 9 2009, 10:01 PM
|- - kzt   QUOTE (Mirilion @ Jul 9 2009, 03:01 PM) T...   Jul 9 2009, 10:08 PM
|- - Ravor   Mirilion have you ever actually been on an Indian ...   Jul 10 2009, 06:25 AM
- - Mirilion   Yes it does. It's not silly. It didn't mak...   Jul 9 2009, 10:15 PM
- - Cheops   I don't know. I've met a decent amount of...   Jul 9 2009, 11:13 PM
|- - Mirilion   QUOTE (Cheops @ Jul 10 2009, 12:13 AM) I ...   Jul 10 2009, 12:20 AM
|- - knasser   QUOTE (Cheops @ Jul 10 2009, 12:13 AM) I ...   Jul 10 2009, 06:24 AM
|- - Cheops   QUOTE (knasser @ Jul 10 2009, 06:24 AM) T...   Jul 10 2009, 03:01 PM
|- - knasser   QUOTE (knasser)They way I see it, fight for who? ...   Jul 10 2009, 03:37 PM
- - Malokei   wait, what are horrors? I still haven't been a...   Jul 10 2009, 01:48 AM
- - Mirilion   Creatures that aren't very nice. Each horror i...   Jul 10 2009, 02:02 AM
- - Malokei   Gotcha! But where can I find 'Horrors...   Jul 10 2009, 03:00 AM
- - KCKitsune   I would like to know why nuclear weapons would not...   Jul 10 2009, 04:14 AM
|- - Naysayer   QUOTE (KCKitsune @ Jul 10 2009, 06:14 AM)...   Jul 10 2009, 06:14 AM
||- - kzt   QUOTE (Naysayer @ Jul 9 2009, 11:14 PM) E...   Jul 10 2009, 05:02 PM
||- - BlueMax   QUOTE (kzt @ Jul 10 2009, 09:02 AM) That ...   Jul 10 2009, 05:12 PM
||- - the_real_elwood   QUOTE (BlueMax @ Jul 10 2009, 11:12 AM) I...   Jul 10 2009, 05:27 PM
|- - knasser   QUOTE (KCKitsune @ Jul 10 2009, 05:14 AM)...   Jul 10 2009, 06:30 AM
|- - KCKitsune   QUOTE (knasser @ Jul 10 2009, 02:30 AM) I...   Jul 10 2009, 07:28 AM
|- - knasser   QUOTE (KCKitsune @ Jul 10 2009, 08:28 AM)...   Jul 10 2009, 07:47 AM
|- - Naysayer   QUOTE (KCKitsune @ Jul 10 2009, 09:28 AM)...   Jul 10 2009, 08:23 AM
- - Adarael   I agree. But this is entirely due to California be...   Jul 10 2009, 06:22 AM
- - Ravor   And I say bah, sure the military might not have be...   Jul 10 2009, 06:48 AM
|- - knasser   QUOTE (Ravor @ Jul 10 2009, 07:48 AM) And...   Jul 10 2009, 07:23 AM
- - Vermithrax   SR1 p.15 SR2 p.24 NAN vol.2 p.59 SR3 p.27 1st and...   Jul 10 2009, 08:27 AM
|- - knasser   QUOTE (Vermithrax @ Jul 10 2009, 09:27 AM...   Jul 10 2009, 09:17 AM
|- - Mirilion   QUOTE (knasser @ Jul 10 2009, 09:17 AM) @...   Jul 10 2009, 09:42 AM
- - Mirilion   The native americans are a bit less motivated than...   Jul 10 2009, 08:36 AM
- - Vermithrax   QUOTE (knasser @ Jul 10 2009, 04:17 AM) I...   Jul 10 2009, 09:36 AM
- - Ravor   Why of course you can compare the two all you want...   Jul 10 2009, 09:46 AM
- - Ravor   Mirilion kindly do not put words into my mouth, th...   Jul 10 2009, 09:59 AM
- - Mirilion   Ravor sorry I didn't mean insinuation like tha...   Jul 10 2009, 10:14 AM
- - Ravor   No worries, sometimes I forget to make things as c...   Jul 10 2009, 10:23 AM
- - Alexand   Shadows of North America specifically retconned th...   Jul 10 2009, 11:40 AM
|- - Malokei   QUOTE (Alexand @ Jul 10 2009, 06:40 AM) M...   Jul 10 2009, 04:35 PM
- - Demonseed Elite   Let's be honest here, early Shadowrun wasn...   Jul 10 2009, 12:57 PM
|- - TW   QUOTE (Demonseed Elite @ Jul 10 2009, 07...   Jul 10 2009, 02:05 PM
- - Warlordtheft   Also-the US in the SR universe didn't die. It ...   Jul 10 2009, 04:16 PM
- - Malachi   QUOTE (Warlordtheft @ Jul 10 2009, 10:16 ...   Jul 10 2009, 04:45 PM
|- - kzt   QUOTE (Malachi @ Jul 10 2009, 09:45 AM) T...   Jul 10 2009, 05:10 PM
|- - TBRMInsanity   QUOTE (Malachi @ Jul 10 2009, 10:45 AM) H...   Jul 10 2009, 05:35 PM
- - Cheops   @Knasser: We definitely have a failure to communi...   Jul 10 2009, 05:00 PM
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