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Night Jackal
post Oct 6 2009, 04:03 PM
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I just noticed an interesting part about the rules that might make a looter take pause.

From SR4 page 303
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The basic asking price for fenced gear is 30% of its original price. Fencing an item requires a Negotiation +
Charisma (10, 6 hours)

Other modifiers
Item stolen –20%
Item used –20%


So, to sell a 1,000 item you would make 1,000*.3*.8*.8 = 192 on it (For Stolen and used and 30% reduction), with a 10 threshold and with a 8 Dicepool (most are lower) = 5 rolls (Buying success 1 for 4 dice)

19.2% of the items cost not bad.

You made 6.4 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) per hour.... which is really low and should not be worth the effort... go work at the stuffer shack for 8 per hour.

Makes most commlinks and standard weapons not worth the effort. You can added flooded market to standard low end commlinks and guns for another 2% overall loss.

Now lets add a Swag to the mix.

Connection 3 fence.... thats another 15% loss so....192*.85 = 163 but you don't have to spend the time...just go and do the drop.

Is 16.3% of an items cost worth the time to loot? Typically not, especially if the item is under 1,000 since the risk vs. reward should make you think twice.

Is this too far off form reality?
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- Night Jackal   Looting everything equals low cash for time   Oct 6 2009, 04:03 PM
- - milk ducks   I love posts like this. My math-fu isn't so h...   Oct 6 2009, 04:06 PM
- - Jaid   iirc, there are also reductions for "hot...   Oct 6 2009, 05:00 PM
- - Adarael   That's where economy of scale comes into play...   Oct 6 2009, 05:31 PM
|- - Dahrken   QUOTE (Adarael @ Oct 6 2009, 07:31 PM) Th...   Oct 6 2009, 06:42 PM
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|- - StealthSigma   QUOTE (Adarael @ Oct 6 2009, 01:31 PM) Th...   Oct 7 2009, 11:22 AM
- - TBRMInsanity   I think that is the point of Shadowrun (defiantly ...   Oct 6 2009, 05:48 PM
- - Faradon   Just be sure not to hide the "new" stole...   Oct 6 2009, 07:29 PM
- - milk ducks   Trolls don't have feelings. -milk.   Oct 6 2009, 08:17 PM
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- - Adarael   Now THAT'S community service!   Oct 6 2009, 08:40 PM
- - Traul   Don't tell me all you loot is guns and commlin...   Oct 6 2009, 09:06 PM
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- - Traul   That's why it's called hot gear. Sell it f...   Oct 6 2009, 10:36 PM
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