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Vestax
post Oct 27 2009, 11:21 PM
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New to shadowrun so been gentle.

I am aware that an adept can become amazing with unarmed strikes and are able to compete with guns. Could someone explain to me how a melee weapon (not unarmed) is able to compete? In another thread someone mentioned melee being able to get 14+ DV easy but I dont see how this is possible with the exception of unarmed.

While the damage / hits are close to each other vs pistol / katana the melee weapons lose because it requires a complex actions.

While I would really like to play a melee based character is just doesn't seem to viable. Especially when you consider how much extra damage he will be taking from being right in someone face.

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- Vestax   Effective Melee Characters?   Oct 27 2009, 11:21 PM
- - Ayeohx   QUOTE (Vestax @ Oct 27 2009, 04:21 PM) Ne...   Oct 28 2009, 01:38 AM
- - Wolfshade   Can kinda depend on how it's played in my mind...   Oct 28 2009, 01:49 AM
- - Glyph   Melee combat is like sniping - it's a niche ro...   Oct 28 2009, 02:07 AM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Glyph @ Oct 27 2009, 10:07 PM) Mel...   Nov 2 2009, 11:21 AM
- - Orcus Blackweather   Strength of 10 with a combat axe starts at 9p dama...   Oct 28 2009, 02:08 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Orcus Blackweather @ Oct 27 2009, 08...   Oct 28 2009, 02:15 AM
- - Marwynn   An effective melee character isn't always in m...   Oct 28 2009, 02:17 AM
- - Mystweaver   I can't comment on SR4 because I don't pla...   Oct 29 2009, 01:31 PM
|- - Screaming Eagle   QUOTE (Mystweaver @ Oct 29 2009, 09:31 AM...   Oct 29 2009, 02:37 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Screaming Eagle @ Oct 29 2009, 08...   Oct 30 2009, 12:01 AM
|- - Mystweaver   QUOTE (Screaming Eagle @ Oct 29 2009, 02...   Nov 2 2009, 10:35 AM
- - Corgak   Being a newbie as well, where does one find the ma...   Oct 29 2009, 09:08 PM
- - crizh   Arsenal p156.   Oct 29 2009, 09:23 PM
- - Corgak   Ahh, thank you!   Oct 29 2009, 09:24 PM
- - Red-ROM   another plus to the phys ad close combatabt is whe...   Oct 30 2009, 02:55 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Red-ROM @ Oct 29 2009, 08:55 ...   Oct 30 2009, 02:58 AM
|- - Mongoose   QUOTE (Red-ROM @ Oct 30 2009, 03:55 ...   Nov 10 2009, 07:51 PM
- - Saint Sithney   Don't forget, all that strength means you can ...   Oct 30 2009, 09:18 AM
- - yorks6988   QUOTE My Troll Martial Artist had Base DV of 11 Un...   Oct 30 2009, 10:39 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (yorks6988 @ Oct 30 2009, 03:39 PM)...   Oct 30 2009, 11:48 PM
- - Wolfshade   As someone noted earlier, thrown weapons can be a ...   Oct 31 2009, 03:34 AM
- - Vestax   Yah i noticed the throwing weapon power. Could eas...   Oct 31 2009, 04:42 AM
- - Marwynn   Missile Mastery and Power Throw is only 1.75 point...   Oct 31 2009, 05:15 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Marwynn @ Oct 30 2009, 11:15 PM) M...   Oct 31 2009, 03:43 PM
- - Mystweaver   In my group, there are two of us who are melee spe...   Nov 4 2009, 12:57 PM
|- - Dakka Dakka   QUOTE (Mystweaver @ Nov 4 2009, 01:57 PM)...   Nov 4 2009, 03:04 PM
- - Syonyde   I don't have sage advice on the topic, but I...   Nov 10 2009, 07:49 AM
|- - Dakka Dakka   QUOTE (Syonyde @ Nov 10 2009, 08:49 AM) M...   Nov 10 2009, 08:11 AM
|- - Neraph   QUOTE (Dakka Dakka @ Nov 10 2009, 02:11 A...   Nov 10 2009, 05:51 PM
- - Dakka Dakka   Ok, I never played Castlevania.   Nov 10 2009, 05:53 PM
- - Ranger   QUOTE (Vestax @ Oct 27 2009, 03:21 PM) Wh...   Nov 10 2009, 08:10 PM
- - Godwyn   Not to mention that the melee adept in Syonyde...   Nov 10 2009, 08:25 PM
- - Dakka Dakka   QUOTE (Vestax @ Oct 28 2009, 12:21 AM) Wh...   Nov 10 2009, 08:39 PM
|- - Ranger   QUOTE (Dakka Dakka @ Nov 10 2009, 12:39 P...   Nov 10 2009, 08:45 PM
- - Stahlseele   For 3rd Edition, there is nothing like a STR16 Tro...   Nov 10 2009, 09:30 PM
- - Whipstitch   Don't forget that subdual is quite viable for ...   Nov 11 2009, 05:12 AM
- - The Jake   Why not a vampire physadept? Built right they coul...   Nov 11 2009, 06:26 AM
|- - Henraldo   QUOTE (The Jake @ Nov 11 2009, 07:26 AM) ...   Nov 11 2009, 09:58 PM
|- - The Jake   QUOTE (Henraldo @ Nov 11 2009, 09:58 PM) ...   Nov 12 2009, 03:33 AM
- - Stahlseele   Why not a surged Drake Adept?   Nov 11 2009, 05:15 PM
- - Dakka Dakka   Surge + Drake, where do you get points for the res...   Nov 11 2009, 06:12 PM
- - Stahlseele   *shrugs* he want's a melee character. min-maxi...   Nov 11 2009, 06:25 PM
- - Glyph   There is an interesting snippet on Drakes: QUOTE ...   Nov 11 2009, 08:30 PM
|- - Dr. Funkenstein   QUOTE (Glyph @ Nov 11 2009, 02:30 PM) So ...   Nov 11 2009, 08:48 PM
- - Dakka Dakka   Interesting. Even when Projecting? This may have s...   Nov 11 2009, 08:40 PM
|- - Dr. Funkenstein   QUOTE (Dakka Dakka @ Nov 11 2009, 02:40 P...   Nov 11 2009, 08:49 PM
- - Stahlseele   and because they can fly, they can still whack awa...   Nov 11 2009, 08:40 PM
- - Dakka Dakka   Only against astral entities must most dual-nature...   Nov 11 2009, 09:14 PM
- - Dr. Funkenstein   Probably the beginning of the quoted sentence: ...   Nov 11 2009, 09:15 PM
- - Dakka Dakka   Woops. Must have overread that.   Nov 11 2009, 09:18 PM
- - The Dragon Girl   I have a phys adept who hasn't had to fire a s...   Nov 11 2009, 09:58 PM
|- - Whipstitch   QUOTE (The Dragon Girl @ Nov 11 2009, 05...   Nov 11 2009, 10:47 PM
|- - The Dragon Girl   QUOTE (Whipstitch @ Nov 11 2009, 05:47 PM...   Nov 12 2009, 10:07 AM
|- - Whipstitch   QUOTE (The Dragon Girl @ Nov 12 2009, 06...   Nov 13 2009, 04:26 AM
- - Dr. Funkenstein   Considering that being a Vampire takes up a stagge...   Nov 12 2009, 03:47 AM
- - Glyph   Yeah. Healing faster is nice, but having move-by-...   Nov 12 2009, 08:21 AM
|- - The Jake   QUOTE (Glyph @ Nov 12 2009, 09:21 AM) Yea...   Nov 13 2009, 01:28 AM
|- - Stahlseele   QUOTE (The Jake @ Nov 13 2009, 02:28 AM) ...   Nov 13 2009, 05:21 AM
- - sqir666   Really? Now this this funny as I've never had...   Nov 12 2009, 10:33 AM
- - Jack Kain   I liked the idea that if you in melee combat with ...   Nov 13 2009, 06:51 PM
- - Sixgun_Sage   If you are focused on melee be good at stealth or ...   Nov 13 2009, 07:02 PM
- - sqir666   I'm going to have to disagree with that, thoug...   Nov 13 2009, 07:59 PM
|- - Stahlseele   QUOTE (sqir666 @ Nov 13 2009, 08:59 PM) I...   Nov 13 2009, 08:01 PM
|- - Sixgun_Sage   QUOTE (sqir666 @ Nov 13 2009, 02:59 PM) I...   Nov 13 2009, 08:03 PM
- - Whipstitch   Even if smartlinks aren't involved there is st...   Nov 13 2009, 10:05 PM
|- - sqir666   QUOTE (Whipstitch @ Nov 13 2009, 04:05 PM...   Nov 14 2009, 01:03 AM
- - Generic_PC   You can't dodge bullets unless you are on full...   Nov 14 2009, 01:05 AM
- - Whipstitch   I glossed over it because frankly, dodging bullets...   Nov 14 2009, 03:08 AM
- - Glyph   Close combat is not just good in conjunction with ...   Nov 14 2009, 03:14 AM
- - Whipstitch   Yeah, see, the thing is, I would look at the chara...   Nov 14 2009, 03:34 AM
- - Dr. Funkenstein   There's also the fact that the Firefight marti...   Nov 14 2009, 03:36 AM
- - Whipstitch   Heck, I'd just skip the Two Weapon Fighting an...   Nov 14 2009, 03:58 AM
- - Glyph   I like the versatility and flavor that the martial...   Nov 16 2009, 04:00 AM
- - Dr. Funkenstein   To be fair, not all of the martial arts maneuvers ...   Nov 16 2009, 04:04 AM
- - Glyph   The term "Willpower Test" implies an att...   Nov 16 2009, 05:27 AM
|- - Traul   QUOTE (Glyph @ Nov 16 2009, 06:27 AM) The...   Nov 16 2009, 12:38 PM
|- - Dr. Funkenstein   QUOTE (Traul @ Nov 16 2009, 06:38 AM) I d...   Nov 16 2009, 01:12 PM
- - remmus   in my mind a Melee focused character isnīt to limi...   Nov 16 2009, 01:10 PM
- - Moxie   SuperSpeed the HedgePixie This was just something...   Nov 16 2009, 01:56 PM


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