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So I just started GMing an SR4 campaign after a 2-year hiatus. I am the only one in the group with any SR4 books (I'm using SR4.0 since I don't have the 4.5 book). I only had the Core book and Street Magic (that was all that had come out by the time I stopped playing). My wife went above and beyond for X-mas and now I also have Arsenal, Augmentation, Unwired, and the Runner's Companion. The group I'm gaming with has extensive gaming experience, and some of them have even played SR2, but none of them have ever seen SR4 before. I would love to actually use some of the stuff from the new books, but I'm a little wary of things that I may need to disallow/avoid/houserule. I've been working on reading my way through the books (I've gotten through most of Augmentation and the Companion), but can I get some advice on things that are particularly broken/exploitable/unworkable? I'm mostly looking for things that will upset game balance or be way too paperwork intensive to keep track of.

As a note, I am currently using the houserule that matrix actions are Logic+Skill with hits capped by program. I am also using many of Serbitar's house rules (except for the KarmaGen and some of the things that are more flavor than anything else). The group consists of 3 combat specialists and an adept infiltration expert, so none of them are really effected by the hacking rule change, but I'm NPCing a hacker for them (I decided I could only do 1 NPC, and I thought a hacker was more important than a full mage).

I attempted some search-fu, but I'm having serious trouble narrowing the results. If you just want to point me at other threads, I don't mind. My post-fu is also weak or I would have tried to get my word document with my house rules into the post somewhere, sorry.
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- Isam   Arsenal, Augmentation, Unwired, RC - Good, bad, ugly?   Jan 5 2010, 10:00 PM
- - Karoline   Basically all of unwired will just be for headache...   Jan 5 2010, 10:21 PM
- - Malachi   If you're not going to have a PC Hacker or Tec...   Jan 5 2010, 10:31 PM
- - Draco18s   RC also offers alternative character races--includ...   Jan 5 2010, 10:32 PM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Jan 5 2010, 05:32 PM) S...   Jan 5 2010, 10:59 PM
|- - KCKitsune   QUOTE (Karoline @ Jan 5 2010, 05:59 PM) O...   Jan 5 2010, 11:48 PM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (KCKitsune @ Jan 5 2010, 06:48 PM) ...   Jan 6 2010, 02:01 AM
||- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Karoline @ Jan 5 2010, 09:01 PM) @...   Jan 6 2010, 02:16 AM
|- - djinni   QUOTE (KCKitsune @ Jan 5 2010, 07:48 PM) ...   Jan 6 2010, 02:08 PM
|- - Bull   QUOTE (djinni @ Jan 6 2010, 09:08 AM) jus...   Jan 6 2010, 02:47 PM
||- - djinni   QUOTE (Bull @ Jan 6 2010, 10:47 AM) In th...   Jan 6 2010, 02:59 PM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (djinni @ Jan 6 2010, 09:08 AM) jus...   Jan 6 2010, 04:33 PM
|- - Malachi   QUOTE (Karoline @ Jan 6 2010, 10:33 AM) E...   Jan 6 2010, 06:35 PM
|- - Muspellsheimr   QUOTE (Karoline @ Jan 6 2010, 10:33 AM) E...   Jan 8 2010, 10:11 PM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ Jan 8 2010, 05:11 ...   Jan 8 2010, 10:19 PM
||- - Muspellsheimr   QUOTE (Karoline @ Jan 8 2010, 04:19 PM) S...   Jan 8 2010, 10:38 PM
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||- - Ascalaphus   QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ Jan 8 2010, 11:38 ...   Jan 8 2010, 11:36 PM
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||- - Ascalaphus   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Jan 9 2010, 12:42 AM) S...   Jan 8 2010, 11:48 PM
||- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Ascalaphus @ Jan 8 2010, 06:48 PM)...   Jan 9 2010, 12:05 AM
||- - Karoline   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Jan 8 2010, 07:05 PM) I...   Jan 9 2010, 01:34 AM
|- - Omenowl   QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ Jan 8 2010, 04:11 ...   Jan 9 2010, 01:53 AM
|- - Whipstitch   QUOTE (Omenowl @ Jan 8 2010, 09:53 PM) Th...   Jan 9 2010, 08:00 AM
|- - hahnsoo   QUOTE (Whipstitch @ Jan 9 2010, 04:00 AM)...   Jan 9 2010, 08:07 AM
|- - Muspellsheimr   QUOTE (Whipstitch @ Jan 9 2010, 02:00 AM)...   Jan 9 2010, 08:17 AM
|- - Omenowl   QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ Jan 9 2010, 02:17 ...   Jan 9 2010, 05:46 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (Isam @ Jan 6 2010, 12:00 AM) (I...   Jan 5 2010, 11:09 PM
- - tagz   Emoti-toys in Arsenal are something to watch for. ...   Jan 5 2010, 11:14 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (tagz @ Jan 5 2010, 06:14 PM) Like ...   Jan 5 2010, 11:48 PM
- - Saint Sithney   I'd recommend a BBB only game (maybe with a to...   Jan 6 2010, 01:40 AM
- - Ascalaphus   Arsenal This book is fairly safe; there are powerf...   Jan 6 2010, 02:07 AM
- - hahnsoo   My take on the books (my opinion alone, and should...   Jan 6 2010, 03:30 AM
- - hahnsoo   (Dammit, double post)   Jan 6 2010, 03:30 AM
- - Karoline   Personally RC, Aug, Ars, and BBB are almost always...   Jan 6 2010, 06:34 AM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Karoline @ Jan 6 2010, 01:34 AM) E...   Jan 6 2010, 09:32 AM
|- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (Karoline @ Jan 6 2010, 08:34 AM) O...   Jan 6 2010, 11:52 AM
- - Blade   First of all, I think it's better to consider ...   Jan 6 2010, 11:42 AM
- - Isam   Thanks for all the info. I think I'm going to ...   Jan 6 2010, 03:59 PM
- - Sengir   I generally recommend the Matrix Overview and Idio...   Jan 6 2010, 06:38 PM
- - Omenowl   My general overview SR 4.0 is the same as the ann...   Jan 7 2010, 01:29 AM
- - Tyro   I think karmagen should be the default standard. R...   Jan 7 2010, 06:14 AM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (Tyro @ Jan 7 2010, 01:14 AM) I thi...   Jan 7 2010, 06:21 AM
- - hobgoblin   i would say that the basic problem of the emotitoy...   Jan 7 2010, 07:39 AM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (hobgoblin @ Jan 7 2010, 09:39 AM) ...   Jan 7 2010, 04:52 PM
|- - Tyro   QUOTE (Mäx @ Jan 7 2010, 09:52 AM) I hav...   Jan 7 2010, 05:45 PM
|- - hobgoblin   QUOTE (Mäx @ Jan 7 2010, 05:52 PM) I hav...   Jan 8 2010, 09:10 AM
||- - kzt   QUOTE (hobgoblin @ Jan 8 2010, 02:10 AM) ...   Jan 10 2010, 07:06 PM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (Mäx @ Jan 7 2010, 11:52 AM) I hav...   Jan 8 2010, 04:16 PM
- - Malachi   I just don't like the idea of any kind of soft...   Jan 8 2010, 09:29 PM
- - Muspellsheimr   QUOTE (SR4A p.183)A metahuman spellcaster can targ...   Jan 9 2010, 02:00 AM
- - Karoline   So, all that quoting proves that the correct inter...   Jan 9 2010, 03:21 AM
|- - hahnsoo   QUOTE (Karoline @ Jan 8 2010, 10:21 PM) S...   Jan 9 2010, 04:13 AM
- - Karoline   Actually I'm seeing the actual words (Convenie...   Jan 9 2010, 04:46 AM
|- - etherial   QUOTE (Karoline @ Jan 8 2010, 11:46 PM) T...   Jan 9 2010, 05:06 AM
||- - Karoline   QUOTE (etherial @ Jan 9 2010, 12:06 AM) T...   Jan 9 2010, 05:34 AM
||- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Karoline @ Jan 9 2010, 12:34 AM) U...   Jan 9 2010, 06:07 AM
||- - hahnsoo   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Jan 9 2010, 02:07 AM) C...   Jan 9 2010, 06:13 AM
||- - Draco18s   QUOTE (hahnsoo @ Jan 9 2010, 01:13 AM) Ac...   Jan 9 2010, 06:23 AM
||- - Karoline   QUOTE (hahnsoo @ Jan 9 2010, 01:13 AM) Ul...   Jan 9 2010, 06:27 AM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Karoline @ Jan 8 2010, 11:46 PM) U...   Jan 9 2010, 05:10 AM
|- - hahnsoo   QUOTE (Karoline @ Jan 9 2010, 12:46 AM) T...   Jan 9 2010, 05:59 AM
|- - Muspellsheimr   QUOTE (Karoline @ Jan 8 2010, 10:46 PM) A...   Jan 9 2010, 06:23 AM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ Jan 9 2010, 01:23 ...   Jan 9 2010, 06:34 AM
- - Muspellsheimr   You are looking at a single word & ignoring th...   Jan 9 2010, 07:04 AM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ Jan 9 2010, 02:04 ...   Jan 9 2010, 07:38 AM
- - Falconer   No Karoline... Muspy has the right of it... this h...   Jan 9 2010, 07:30 AM
- - Whipstitch   It's crazy talk if you actually think it's...   Jan 9 2010, 08:08 AM
- - Falconer   *sigh*.. YES THE DEVS DID... you're beating a ...   Jan 9 2010, 08:34 AM
|- - kzt   QUOTE (Falconer @ Jan 9 2010, 01:34 AM) *...   Jan 10 2010, 07:16 PM
|- - Tyro   QUOTE (kzt @ Jan 10 2010, 12:16 PM) So yo...   Jan 10 2010, 07:52 PM
- - Muspellsheimr   Try reading it again. I clearly stated that I rem...   Jan 9 2010, 09:09 AM
- - Muspellsheimr   Good thing for both of us that I don't play in...   Jan 9 2010, 07:37 PM
|- - Omenowl   QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ Jan 9 2010, 01:37 ...   Jan 9 2010, 09:53 PM
- - Draco18s   Casting magic, at range, on the astral: Targeting...   Jan 9 2010, 08:34 PM
- - Muspellsheimr   Yes, that's all I could find, and it doesn...   Jan 9 2010, 09:06 PM
- - Muspellsheimr   You completely missed the entire fucking point. T...   Jan 9 2010, 10:05 PM
|- - Omenowl   QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ Jan 9 2010, 04:05 ...   Jan 10 2010, 03:43 AM
- - Dreadlord   Um, dude, read the first paragraph... Auras canno...   Jan 9 2010, 10:09 PM
|- - Muspellsheimr   QUOTE (Dreadlord @ Jan 9 2010, 04:09 PM) ...   Jan 9 2010, 10:18 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ Jan 9 2010, 05:18 ...   Jan 9 2010, 11:09 PM
- - Muspellsheimr   Living beings (be it plant, metahuman, or dog) pos...   Jan 9 2010, 11:36 PM
|- - Draco18s   Ok, that was clearer. QUOTE (Muspellsheimr ...   Jan 10 2010, 12:24 AM
- - Muspellsheimr   No, I want to change something so it is 1) Not ove...   Jan 10 2010, 11:22 AM
|- - Draco18s   [redacted] Was thinking I was in the HA thread whi...   Jan 10 2010, 02:08 PM
|- - Omenowl   QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ Jan 10 2010, 05:22...   Jan 10 2010, 03:17 PM
- - Falconer   Muspellsheimr: I see what you're saying, but ...   Jan 10 2010, 06:58 PM
- - Falconer   You're just trying to be difficult kzt... you...   Jan 10 2010, 07:31 PM
- - kzt   The output from a normal spectrum camera is a vide...   Jan 10 2010, 07:52 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (kzt @ Jan 10 2010, 02:52 PM) The o...   Jan 11 2010, 02:28 AM
|- - kzt   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Jan 10 2010, 07:28 PM) ...   Jan 11 2010, 03:29 AM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (kzt @ Jan 10 2010, 10:29 PM) Stop ...   Jan 11 2010, 03:31 AM
- - Omenowl   I have no problems with ultrasound or sonar being ...   Jan 11 2010, 02:53 AM
- - Draco18s   Magesight goggles then? Mirrors? Glass? What c...   Jan 11 2010, 03:24 AM
- - kzt   So if there is a solid obstacle in the LOS you can...   Jan 11 2010, 03:27 AM
- - Omenowl   I don't like the idea of endoscopes. I think ...   Jan 11 2010, 03:46 AM


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