Jan 5 2010, 10:00 PM
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So I just started GMing an SR4 campaign after a 2-year hiatus. I am the only one in the group with any SR4 books (I'm using SR4.0 since I don't have the 4.5 book). I only had the Core book and Street Magic (that was all that had come out by the time I stopped playing). My wife went above and beyond for X-mas and now I also have Arsenal, Augmentation, Unwired, and the Runner's Companion. The group I'm gaming with has extensive gaming experience, and some of them have even played SR2, but none of them have ever seen SR4 before. I would love to actually use some of the stuff from the new books, but I'm a little wary of things that I may need to disallow/avoid/houserule. I've been working on reading my way through the books (I've gotten through most of Augmentation and the Companion), but can I get some advice on things that are particularly broken/exploitable/unworkable? I'm mostly looking for things that will upset game balance or be way too paperwork intensive to keep track of.
As a note, I am currently using the houserule that matrix actions are Logic+Skill with hits capped by program. I am also using many of Serbitar's house rules (except for the KarmaGen and some of the things that are more flavor than anything else). The group consists of 3 combat specialists and an adept infiltration expert, so none of them are really effected by the hacking rule change, but I'm NPCing a hacker for them (I decided I could only do 1 NPC, and I thought a hacker was more important than a full mage). I attempted some search-fu, but I'm having serious trouble narrowing the results. If you just want to point me at other threads, I don't mind. My post-fu is also weak or I would have tried to get my word document with my house rules into the post somewhere, sorry. |
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Isam Arsenal, Augmentation, Unwired, RC - Good, bad, ugly? Jan 5 2010, 10:00 PM
Karoline Basically all of unwired will just be for headache... Jan 5 2010, 10:21 PM
Malachi If you're not going to have a PC Hacker or Tec... Jan 5 2010, 10:31 PM
Draco18s RC also offers alternative character races--includ... Jan 5 2010, 10:32 PM
Karoline QUOTE (Draco18s @ Jan 5 2010, 05:32 PM) S... Jan 5 2010, 10:59 PM
KCKitsune QUOTE (Karoline @ Jan 5 2010, 05:59 PM) O... Jan 5 2010, 11:48 PM
Karoline QUOTE (KCKitsune @ Jan 5 2010, 06:48 PM) ... Jan 6 2010, 02:01 AM

Draco18s QUOTE (Karoline @ Jan 5 2010, 09:01 PM) @... Jan 6 2010, 02:16 AM
djinni QUOTE (KCKitsune @ Jan 5 2010, 07:48 PM) ... Jan 6 2010, 02:08 PM
Bull QUOTE (djinni @ Jan 6 2010, 09:08 AM) jus... Jan 6 2010, 02:47 PM

djinni QUOTE (Bull @ Jan 6 2010, 10:47 AM) In th... Jan 6 2010, 02:59 PM
Karoline QUOTE (djinni @ Jan 6 2010, 09:08 AM) jus... Jan 6 2010, 04:33 PM
Malachi QUOTE (Karoline @ Jan 6 2010, 10:33 AM) E... Jan 6 2010, 06:35 PM
Muspellsheimr QUOTE (Karoline @ Jan 6 2010, 10:33 AM) E... Jan 8 2010, 10:11 PM
Karoline QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ Jan 8 2010, 05:11 ... Jan 8 2010, 10:19 PM

Muspellsheimr QUOTE (Karoline @ Jan 8 2010, 04:19 PM) S... Jan 8 2010, 10:38 PM

Muspellsheimr QUOTE (Karoline @ Jan 8 2010, 04:19 PM) S... Jan 8 2010, 10:38 PM

Ascalaphus QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ Jan 8 2010, 11:38 ... Jan 8 2010, 11:36 PM

Draco18s QUOTE (Ascalaphus @ Jan 8 2010, 06:36 PM)... Jan 8 2010, 11:42 PM

Ascalaphus QUOTE (Draco18s @ Jan 9 2010, 12:42 AM) S... Jan 8 2010, 11:48 PM

Draco18s QUOTE (Ascalaphus @ Jan 8 2010, 06:48 PM)... Jan 9 2010, 12:05 AM

Karoline QUOTE (Draco18s @ Jan 8 2010, 07:05 PM) I... Jan 9 2010, 01:34 AM
Omenowl QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ Jan 8 2010, 04:11 ... Jan 9 2010, 01:53 AM
Whipstitch QUOTE (Omenowl @ Jan 8 2010, 09:53 PM) Th... Jan 9 2010, 08:00 AM
hahnsoo QUOTE (Whipstitch @ Jan 9 2010, 04:00 AM)... Jan 9 2010, 08:07 AM
Muspellsheimr QUOTE (Whipstitch @ Jan 9 2010, 02:00 AM)... Jan 9 2010, 08:17 AM
Omenowl QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ Jan 9 2010, 02:17 ... Jan 9 2010, 05:46 PM
Rotbart van Dainig QUOTE (Isam @ Jan 6 2010, 12:00 AM) (I... Jan 5 2010, 11:09 PM
tagz Emoti-toys in Arsenal are something to watch for. ... Jan 5 2010, 11:14 PM
Draco18s QUOTE (tagz @ Jan 5 2010, 06:14 PM) Like ... Jan 5 2010, 11:48 PM
Saint Sithney I'd recommend a BBB only game (maybe with a to... Jan 6 2010, 01:40 AM
Ascalaphus Arsenal
This book is fairly safe; there are powerf... Jan 6 2010, 02:07 AM
hahnsoo My take on the books (my opinion alone, and should... Jan 6 2010, 03:30 AM
hahnsoo (Dammit, double post) Jan 6 2010, 03:30 AM
Karoline Personally RC, Aug, Ars, and BBB are almost always... Jan 6 2010, 06:34 AM
Draco18s QUOTE (Karoline @ Jan 6 2010, 01:34 AM) E... Jan 6 2010, 09:32 AM
Rotbart van Dainig QUOTE (Karoline @ Jan 6 2010, 08:34 AM) O... Jan 6 2010, 11:52 AM
Blade First of all, I think it's better to consider ... Jan 6 2010, 11:42 AM
Isam Thanks for all the info. I think I'm going to ... Jan 6 2010, 03:59 PM
Sengir I generally recommend the Matrix Overview and Idio... Jan 6 2010, 06:38 PM
Omenowl My general overview
SR 4.0 is the same as the ann... Jan 7 2010, 01:29 AM
Tyro I think karmagen should be the default standard. R... Jan 7 2010, 06:14 AM
Karoline QUOTE (Tyro @ Jan 7 2010, 01:14 AM) I thi... Jan 7 2010, 06:21 AM
hobgoblin i would say that the basic problem of the emotitoy... Jan 7 2010, 07:39 AM
Mäx QUOTE (hobgoblin @ Jan 7 2010, 09:39 AM) ... Jan 7 2010, 04:52 PM
Tyro QUOTE (Mäx @ Jan 7 2010, 09:52 AM) I hav... Jan 7 2010, 05:45 PM
hobgoblin QUOTE (Mäx @ Jan 7 2010, 05:52 PM) I hav... Jan 8 2010, 09:10 AM

kzt QUOTE (hobgoblin @ Jan 8 2010, 02:10 AM) ... Jan 10 2010, 07:06 PM
Karoline QUOTE (Mäx @ Jan 7 2010, 11:52 AM) I hav... Jan 8 2010, 04:16 PM
Malachi I just don't like the idea of any kind of soft... Jan 8 2010, 09:29 PM
Muspellsheimr QUOTE (SR4A p.183)A metahuman spellcaster can targ... Jan 9 2010, 02:00 AM
Karoline So, all that quoting proves that the correct inter... Jan 9 2010, 03:21 AM
hahnsoo QUOTE (Karoline @ Jan 8 2010, 10:21 PM) S... Jan 9 2010, 04:13 AM
Karoline Actually I'm seeing the actual words (Convenie... Jan 9 2010, 04:46 AM
etherial QUOTE (Karoline @ Jan 8 2010, 11:46 PM) T... Jan 9 2010, 05:06 AM

Karoline QUOTE (etherial @ Jan 9 2010, 12:06 AM) T... Jan 9 2010, 05:34 AM

Draco18s QUOTE (Karoline @ Jan 9 2010, 12:34 AM) U... Jan 9 2010, 06:07 AM

hahnsoo QUOTE (Draco18s @ Jan 9 2010, 02:07 AM) C... Jan 9 2010, 06:13 AM

Draco18s QUOTE (hahnsoo @ Jan 9 2010, 01:13 AM) Ac... Jan 9 2010, 06:23 AM

Karoline QUOTE (hahnsoo @ Jan 9 2010, 01:13 AM) Ul... Jan 9 2010, 06:27 AM
Draco18s QUOTE (Karoline @ Jan 8 2010, 11:46 PM) U... Jan 9 2010, 05:10 AM
hahnsoo QUOTE (Karoline @ Jan 9 2010, 12:46 AM) T... Jan 9 2010, 05:59 AM
Muspellsheimr QUOTE (Karoline @ Jan 8 2010, 10:46 PM) A... Jan 9 2010, 06:23 AM
Karoline QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ Jan 9 2010, 01:23 ... Jan 9 2010, 06:34 AM
Muspellsheimr You are looking at a single word & ignoring th... Jan 9 2010, 07:04 AM
Karoline QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ Jan 9 2010, 02:04 ... Jan 9 2010, 07:38 AM
Falconer No Karoline... Muspy has the right of it... this h... Jan 9 2010, 07:30 AM
Whipstitch It's crazy talk if you actually think it's... Jan 9 2010, 08:08 AM
Falconer *sigh*.. YES THE DEVS DID... you're beating a ... Jan 9 2010, 08:34 AM
kzt QUOTE (Falconer @ Jan 9 2010, 01:34 AM) *... Jan 10 2010, 07:16 PM
Tyro QUOTE (kzt @ Jan 10 2010, 12:16 PM) So yo... Jan 10 2010, 07:52 PM
Muspellsheimr Try reading it again. I clearly stated that I rem... Jan 9 2010, 09:09 AM
Muspellsheimr Good thing for both of us that I don't play in... Jan 9 2010, 07:37 PM
Omenowl QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ Jan 9 2010, 01:37 ... Jan 9 2010, 09:53 PM
Draco18s Casting magic, at range, on the astral:
Targeting... Jan 9 2010, 08:34 PM
Muspellsheimr Yes, that's all I could find, and it doesn... Jan 9 2010, 09:06 PM
Muspellsheimr You completely missed the entire fucking point.
T... Jan 9 2010, 10:05 PM
Omenowl QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ Jan 9 2010, 04:05 ... Jan 10 2010, 03:43 AM
Dreadlord Um, dude, read the first paragraph...
Auras canno... Jan 9 2010, 10:09 PM
Muspellsheimr QUOTE (Dreadlord @ Jan 9 2010, 04:09 PM) ... Jan 9 2010, 10:18 PM
Draco18s QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ Jan 9 2010, 05:18 ... Jan 9 2010, 11:09 PM
Muspellsheimr Living beings (be it plant, metahuman, or dog) pos... Jan 9 2010, 11:36 PM
Draco18s Ok, that was clearer.
QUOTE (Muspellsheimr ... Jan 10 2010, 12:24 AM
Muspellsheimr No, I want to change something so it is 1) Not ove... Jan 10 2010, 11:22 AM
Draco18s [redacted]
Was thinking I was in the HA thread whi... Jan 10 2010, 02:08 PM
Omenowl QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ Jan 10 2010, 05:22... Jan 10 2010, 03:17 PM
Falconer Muspellsheimr:
I see what you're saying, but ... Jan 10 2010, 06:58 PM
Falconer You're just trying to be difficult kzt... you... Jan 10 2010, 07:31 PM
kzt The output from a normal spectrum camera is a vide... Jan 10 2010, 07:52 PM
Draco18s QUOTE (kzt @ Jan 10 2010, 02:52 PM) The o... Jan 11 2010, 02:28 AM
kzt QUOTE (Draco18s @ Jan 10 2010, 07:28 PM) ... Jan 11 2010, 03:29 AM
Draco18s QUOTE (kzt @ Jan 10 2010, 10:29 PM) Stop ... Jan 11 2010, 03:31 AM
Omenowl I have no problems with ultrasound or sonar being ... Jan 11 2010, 02:53 AM
Draco18s Magesight goggles then? Mirrors? Glass? What c... Jan 11 2010, 03:24 AM
kzt So if there is a solid obstacle in the LOS you can... Jan 11 2010, 03:27 AM
Omenowl I don't like the idea of endoscopes. I think ... Jan 11 2010, 03:46 AM![]() ![]() |
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