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Umidori
post Feb 19 2010, 05:50 AM
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So I've been putting together a Psionic character, and I was picking out some of the more reasonable spells to use as "psychic powers" when my attention came back, as it occasionally does, to the odd little spell Ignite.

I'd never really understood the intended usage of the spell. It's low drain is nice, but cast at even moderate forces it takes agonizingly long to become permanent. Who has time in a fight to wait several combat turns for the enemy to catch fire, especially considering the lost dice suffered to all actions during the time spent sustaining the spell? Is it meant to be used stealthily, before a fight has even begun? Or is it merely intended only for non-combat scenarios, like burning down a building and the like?

Then it occured to me that maybe Ignite is intended to be an ultra low force spell? Well, okay then, so I do the mental math for a force two cast - meh, still takes two combat turns to become permanent, and then it only does 2F. Wait a minute, if it gains 1DV per turn... it's like a DOT that just gets nastier and nastier and doesn't stop until the target is dead or somehow extinguishes themselves. That could be really nice, except for the still-just-a-tad-too-long time until permanent.

Then I thought, okay, so what if it's cast at a force of one? Permanent spells are twice the DV, but the DV is half the force... rounded... down... wait... does that mean what I think it means? Force 1 divided by 2 is 0.5, which rounds down to 0, which times 2 is still 0? Suddenly the spell becomes an instant cast that starts out low damage but rapidly grows out of control if not extinguished quickly. Whoa! Now the spell is useful! But then, aww crap, I remember that the minimum DV is 1 anyway, so that ruins that. Then I realize it sucks even more. If you cast at force one, that limits the spellcasting tests hits anyway, and it'll be sure to be resisted.

So what the smeg is the point of this spell? It's got awesome potential for sheer runaway damage, especially over time, but you'll never get the spell off against a living target faster than you and your team can take that target down with practically anything else.

~Umidori
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- Umidori   The Ignite Spell   Feb 19 2010, 05:50 AM
- - Mendrian   You could always hand it off to a spirit to mainta...   Feb 19 2010, 06:11 AM
- - Squinky   You got me. It's kinda like the adrenaline pum...   Feb 19 2010, 06:23 AM
- - Dahrken   QUOTE (Umidori @ Feb 19 2010, 06:50 AM) S...   Feb 19 2010, 06:39 AM
- - Saint Sithney   You can stare at a tank for 12 seconds and light i...   Feb 19 2010, 06:56 AM
- - Umidori   Mage: I wonder... Street Sammy: What about? Mage: ...   Feb 19 2010, 07:08 AM
- - Dakka Dakka   Don't forget that the spell must meet the targ...   Feb 19 2010, 07:14 AM
- - Umidori   Another fairly useless spell: Fling. It is exactl...   Feb 19 2010, 07:33 AM
|- - Shinobi Killfist   QUOTE (Umidori @ Feb 19 2010, 02:33 AM) A...   Feb 19 2010, 04:04 PM
- - Surukai   The time it takes to become permanent can be reduc...   Feb 19 2010, 07:47 AM
- - FriendoftheDork   I disagree about control action, is a very cool th...   Feb 19 2010, 08:11 AM
- - Umidori   I just had an idea. Ignite + Shape [Material] (Fir...   Feb 19 2010, 08:16 AM
|- - Oehler the Black   QUOTE (Umidori @ Feb 19 2010, 02:16 AM) I...   Feb 19 2010, 08:25 AM
|- - D2F   QUOTE (Umidori @ Feb 19 2010, 09:16 AM) I...   Feb 20 2010, 06:31 PM
|- - Umidori   QUOTE (D2F @ Feb 20 2010, 11:31 AM) ...   Feb 20 2010, 06:57 PM
|- - D2F   QUOTE (Umidori @ Feb 20 2010, 07:57 PM) A...   Feb 20 2010, 08:35 PM
- - Umidori   QUOTE ("Street Magic @ P. 174)This spel...   Feb 19 2010, 08:48 AM
- - Surukai   One could easily argue that the force of the spell...   Feb 19 2010, 09:11 AM
- - Umidori   I just realized that Oehler was asking if the Igni...   Feb 19 2010, 09:20 AM
- - Surukai   You can burn metal, no problems. Take steel-wool f...   Feb 19 2010, 09:29 AM
|- - Saint Sithney   QUOTE (Surukai @ Feb 19 2010, 01:29 AM) H...   Feb 19 2010, 10:07 AM
|- - Surukai   QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Feb 19 2010, 11:07...   Feb 19 2010, 02:15 PM
|- - Dakka Dakka   QUOTE (Surukai @ Feb 19 2010, 03:15 PM) O...   Feb 19 2010, 02:34 PM
|- - Surukai   QUOTE (Dakka Dakka @ Feb 19 2010, 03:34 P...   Feb 19 2010, 10:59 PM
||- - Doc Byte   QUOTE (Surukai @ Feb 19 2010, 11:59 PM) T...   Feb 20 2010, 12:18 AM
||- - Saint Sithney   QUOTE (Surukai @ Feb 19 2010, 02:59 PM) O...   Feb 20 2010, 03:57 PM
|||- - Shinobi Killfist   QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Feb 20 2010, 11:57...   Feb 20 2010, 07:31 PM
|||- - Saint Sithney   QUOTE (Shinobi Killfist @ Feb 20 2010, 11...   Feb 21 2010, 11:01 AM
||||- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Feb 21 2010, 06:01...   Feb 21 2010, 03:57 PM
||||- - Shinobi Killfist   QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Feb 21 2010, 07:01...   Feb 21 2010, 04:53 PM
||||- - Saint Sithney   QUOTE (Shinobi Killfist @ Feb 21 2010, 08...   Feb 22 2010, 02:13 AM
||||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Feb 21 2010, 07:13...   Feb 22 2010, 03:00 AM
||||- - Shinobi Killfist   QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Feb 21 2010, 10:13...   Feb 22 2010, 07:09 AM
|||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Shinobi Killfist @ Feb 20 2010, 12...   Feb 22 2010, 02:57 AM
||- - Dakka Dakka   QUOTE (Surukai @ Feb 19 2010, 11:59 PM) H...   Feb 20 2010, 05:14 PM
|- - Surukai   doublepost   Feb 19 2010, 10:59 PM
- - Umidori   Steel wool burns quickly because it is made of thi...   Feb 19 2010, 09:45 AM
- - Dakka Dakka   Shape Fire is still an Area Effect spell. The maxi...   Feb 19 2010, 10:32 AM
- - Achsin   On the positive side, it is easier to use against ...   Feb 19 2010, 03:23 PM
- - X-Kalibur   I find ignite is great for lighting cigarettes. O...   Feb 19 2010, 07:09 PM
|- - McCummhail   QUOTE (X-Kalibur @ Feb 19 2010, 02:0...   Feb 19 2010, 07:12 PM
||- - X-Kalibur   QUOTE (McCummhail @ Feb 19 2010, 11:12 AM...   Feb 19 2010, 07:32 PM
|- - Shinobi Killfist   QUOTE (X-Kalibur @ Feb 19 2010, 03:0...   Feb 19 2010, 09:28 PM
- - ravensoracle   Ok so get an anti-smoking fanatic to ignite someon...   Feb 19 2010, 10:10 PM
- - Rad   Nah, you just need a custom version (Ignite Cigare...   Feb 19 2010, 10:43 PM
- - X-Kalibur   Bah, no imagination amongst some people. What, no ...   Feb 20 2010, 12:31 AM
|- - Doc Byte   QUOTE (X-Kalibur @ Feb 20 2010, 01:3...   Feb 20 2010, 01:16 AM
- - Shinobi Killfist   Or a called shot with a flamethrower spell at forc...   Feb 20 2010, 02:55 AM
- - Umidori   You know, I've had a thought. Ignite suddenly ...   Feb 21 2010, 05:41 AM
- - Saito   I actually like this spell. It is not great for c...   Feb 21 2010, 12:00 PM
|- - Dakka Dakka   QUOTE (Saito @ Feb 21 2010, 01:00 PM) And...   Feb 21 2010, 12:03 PM
- - pbangarth   Just as a nitpick: a part of any automatic weapon...   Feb 22 2010, 01:32 AM
- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (pbangarth @ Feb 21 2010, 06:32 PM)...   Feb 22 2010, 02:58 AM


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