Mar 8 2010, 09:48 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 105 Joined: 28-August 05 Member No.: 7,637 |
Ok, maybe I am missing something here.
Lowly pathetic Palladium games has a system in place for putting a 40 up to a persons head and pulling the trigger. It involves a complicated series of charts to roll on, plus some bypass-S.D.C.-and-go-straight-to-hitpoints damage, but there is something. In Cyberpunk, guy has a 18 point cowl plate, you put a weak 2D6 9mm up to his head and squeeze you don't even roll for damage. Point Plank shot is ALWAYS maximum damage, plus a head shot is double damage. Bang, 6 gets through, make a shock save. But it doesn't matter. 6 points to a body part with one attack will sever or mangle it, so that dudes head is toast. Make a new toon. 18 points of armour on a head is the same as the armor on the door of an armored vehicle. Swap out that pitiful pre crash 9 with an armalite 44, thats 4D6+1, or 25 x 2 for 50 points of damage to a head. That head is blows clean off. Tone it down with a City Master which is 3D6, and you still get dead. Change that ammo, and the results are more splashy. I hate house rules. Don't use em. If I have to make house rules, we will just make up our own game and play it, no reason to pay for a rule set, just to change it. In Shadowrun, you put a colt manhunter up to a guy ties up, have 12 dice in your pool, roll average, you will do 6 + successes, which is about 4 on average, for 10 boxes, which will only kill of you have less than a 4 body. A Colt manhunter is like hitting with the Armalite .44 from Cyberpunk, which in the same system is garunteed to do what it is supposed to do at point blank, which is to remove said head from same body. In Shadowrun, you need to use burst fire to kill, which works for me, as I have no issue with killing players and NPCs with guns, as long as it's not a single shot execution shot. Or am I missing some rule in Shadowrun? |
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WorkOver Paladium tried it, Cyber Punk Got it Dead On, Shadowrun.............. Mar 8 2010, 09:48 PM
Starmage21 QUOTE (WorkOver @ Mar 8 2010, 04:48 PM) O... Mar 8 2010, 09:52 PM
Stahlseele It's an aimed shot, so you take the appropriat... Mar 8 2010, 09:56 PM
Wounded Ronin QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Mar 8 2010, 05:56 PM)... Mar 10 2010, 03:18 AM
Stahlseele QUOTE (Wounded Ronin @ Mar 10 2010, 04:18... Mar 10 2010, 10:34 AM
Wounded Ronin QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Mar 10 2010, 06:34 AM... Mar 13 2010, 03:06 PM
Daddy's Little Ninja QUOTE (WorkOver @ Mar 8 2010, 04:48 PM) L... Mar 8 2010, 10:02 PM
Stahlseele Nuhu!
I'm wearing my bullet proof Shoes... Mar 8 2010, 10:09 PM
Dixie Flatline GM Fiat is not a "house rule".
If you... Mar 8 2010, 10:28 PM
Ghremdal If you want to go by the rules, you can say it is ... Mar 8 2010, 10:36 PM
Neraph QUOTE (Ghremdal @ Mar 8 2010, 04:36 PM) I... Mar 8 2010, 10:44 PM
Malachi Shadowrun combat rules are intended to be a relati... Mar 8 2010, 10:37 PM
Flowman Called shot rules anyone? sub 4 dice for +4 damage... Mar 8 2010, 10:44 PM
Stahlseele And if it's built in, natural or magical armor... Mar 8 2010, 10:47 PM
Flowman QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Mar 8 2010, 10:47 PM)... Mar 8 2010, 10:52 PM

Stahlseele QUOTE (Flowman @ Mar 8 2010, 11:52 PM) Ru... Mar 8 2010, 11:00 PM
Caadium QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Mar 8 2010, 02:47 PM)... Mar 8 2010, 11:00 PM
X-Kalibur Ever play Syphon Filter? You get an air taser than... Mar 8 2010, 10:53 PM
Daylen SR is not a rule system for declaring exactly what... Mar 8 2010, 11:07 PM
raggedhalo Arsenal gives rules for point-blank shooting. Mar 8 2010, 11:08 PM
Cain Let's crunch the numbers on this one.
Let... Mar 8 2010, 11:16 PM
hobgoblin i should really stay off this thread, but now i un... Mar 8 2010, 11:58 PM
Daylen QUOTE (hobgoblin @ Mar 8 2010, 11:58 PM) ... Mar 9 2010, 12:44 AM
Dixie Flatline QUOTE (hobgoblin @ Mar 8 2010, 03:58 PM) ... Mar 9 2010, 01:47 AM
knasser QUOTE (Dixie Flatline @ Mar 9 2010, 01:47... Mar 13 2010, 08:56 PM
TheOOB There really is only one place that you can shoot ... Mar 9 2010, 01:51 AM
crash2029 At the risk of melanoma I would like to bring up t... Mar 9 2010, 02:05 AM
Doc Byte QUOTE (WorkOver @ Mar 8 2010, 10:48 PM) O... Mar 9 2010, 02:35 AM
WorkOver I am not talking about making aim shots for eyes. ... Mar 9 2010, 03:33 AM
rumanchu QUOTE (WorkOver @ Mar 8 2010, 07:33 PM) I... Mar 9 2010, 09:34 AM
Wounded Ronin QUOTE (rumanchu @ Mar 9 2010, 05:34 AM) I... Mar 10 2010, 03:21 AM
nemafow If the guy is tied up and your placing a pistol to... Mar 9 2010, 03:47 AM
Manunancy A slight comment on CP's 'dougle had damag... Mar 9 2010, 05:47 AM
The Jake QUOTE (Manunancy @ Mar 9 2010, 06:47 AM) ... Mar 10 2010, 02:28 AM
Evilness45 In shadowrun, a grenade won't kill a healthy p... Mar 9 2010, 05:51 AM
TheOOB QUOTE (Evilness45 @ Mar 9 2010, 01:51 AM)... Mar 9 2010, 06:16 AM
Brazilian_Shinobi QUOTE (TheOOB @ Mar 9 2010, 03:16 AM) Dep... Mar 9 2010, 08:41 PM
Evilness45 Actually, yes there is a rule for executing prison... Mar 9 2010, 07:23 AM
Shrike30 CP2020 actually handled *better* when you ran up t... Mar 9 2010, 09:03 AM
WorkOver QUOTE (Shrike30 @ Mar 9 2010, 04:03 AM) C... Mar 9 2010, 08:23 PM
Blade Combat rules are here to deal with what happens in... Mar 9 2010, 09:55 AM
Aerospider WRT the called shot rules, they're for when yo... Mar 9 2010, 12:21 PM
last_of_the_great_mikeys Of course all of this goes out the window if the t... Mar 9 2010, 05:45 PM
Warlordtheft QUOTE (last_of_the_great_mikeys @ Mar 9 2010,... Mar 9 2010, 06:46 PM
The Monk to the OP. Tell me if I'm wrong, what you are ... Mar 9 2010, 06:01 PM
hobgoblin i guess he is looking for a deterministic way to s... Mar 9 2010, 06:27 PM
Starfish In such situations, I usually go by the statement ... Mar 9 2010, 06:50 PM
WorkOver Ok, here is the full scene as to why this is an is... Mar 9 2010, 08:32 PM
Caadium QUOTE (WorkOver @ Mar 9 2010, 12:32 PM) O... Mar 9 2010, 09:04 PM
Stahlseele QUOTE (WorkOver @ Mar 9 2010, 09:32 PM) O... Mar 9 2010, 09:25 PM
Dixie Flatline QUOTE (WorkOver @ Mar 9 2010, 12:32 PM) O... Mar 9 2010, 10:45 PM
WorkOver QUOTE (Dixie Flatline @ Mar 9 2010, 05:45... Mar 10 2010, 01:53 AM
The Monk QUOTE (WorkOver @ Mar 9 2010, 09:53 PM) I... Mar 10 2010, 02:57 AM

WorkOver QUOTE (The Monk @ Mar 9 2010, 09:57 PM) I... Mar 10 2010, 06:15 AM
Cain QUOTE (WorkOver @ Mar 9 2010, 05:53 PM) I... Mar 10 2010, 05:09 AM
Evilness45 Execution, if handled correctly using the current ... Mar 9 2010, 09:39 PM
X-Kalibur Just load up a cyberskull with armor. We'll wa... Mar 9 2010, 09:55 PM
Dumori you need the executioner a two barreled Eichiro Ha... Mar 9 2010, 10:58 PM
Stahlseele Mod it for short burst by firing both barrels at o... Mar 9 2010, 11:51 PM
Dumori Yeah but the +1 dv isn't worth the slot take u... Mar 9 2010, 11:54 PM
Stahlseele STYLE OVER SUBSTANCE! ^^ Mar 10 2010, 12:03 AM
AngelisStorm Average trained dude:
3 stat, 3 skill
Other dude... Mar 10 2010, 06:42 AM
Omenowl My take
1. Most bullets wounds are not instantly ... Mar 10 2010, 12:02 PM![]() ![]() |
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