Mar 22 2010, 03:49 AM
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I want to know if it's me, am I expecting too much from my players, am I making things too difficult for them or are they really not capable of do something more complex than basic snatch & grab or b&e.
I've been gaming with this group for 3-4 years now. GMed SR during farming season last 2 years, but otherwise, was a player in Starwars, which I don't care for. Starwars I mean. Group human PI, high areas are social & datasearch hobgoblin thief, high area are sneak, with minor hacking capabilities troll bounty hunter, high areas are perception & combat /w uncouth quality Dwarf medic/tech, high areas firstaid & armorer, uses skill wires for hacking Mission Plant evidence indicating X is a spy for rival corp, have 2 weeks to complete The have info on where X works, how much he's paid, family situation, etc. Pretty much if they want to know about him, they have it or can get it easily enough. He is pretty much squeaky clean, as far as they can tell at least. The problems I've noticed is: A) The PI player has played 2nd ed, and keeps reverting back to that. His characters are always the same, (PI, librarian, or D&D ranger) but all have same skills/abilities no matter what system. He's also big into calculating odds, which takes him along time. (ex. GM: Do you want to scan for any guards leaving or just wait for the one you know is a guard to leave. player: ... GM: ... Player: ... GM: Which is it going to be? Player: ... ) That took about 3 minutes for him to decide. B) Troll player thinks that since his character is uncouth, any situation where PCs will have to con/bribe their way through, he will automatically F* it up. He also keeps claiming to not understand how to make a character for SR since he's really only played starwars & D&D. C) I think the Hobgoblin player doesn't pay attention as he keeps going back to something that's already been discussed and gets angry with the other players just tell him that it won't work. He also blows off his contacts, who could have helped him, when they return with the information and just want some $$ compensation. D) Dwarf player keeps shooting down ideas without providing any new ones or work-around/answers to the problems. He also used to bring his PSP and play that, but he stopped doing that so far. E) Me, I think I give my players too much lee-way when giving them the missions. All I give them is an objective and let them figure out a way to accomplish it. I also get fed up with the players when there are simple solutions that I see, and they don't pick up on it. I'm usually good at not saying anything and just B*t*hing about it after words. I've mostly played 4th ed, and a bit, tiny amount of 3rd. There's probably more for me, but that's all I can think of at the moment. I guess I'm really pissed off because I spent the last 6 hours, of my only day off during the week, listening to the players turn down idea after idea when I purposely gave them the mission at the end of last session so they could discuss it some during the week. I even gave them a forum to talk on so when they'd arrive, they'd be ready. Hell, after a few hours of listening to them bicker, I even wrote down what I would do to complete this mission and gave it to them. Best idea they came up with is, hire a NPC to do it all. When I told them how much it would cost, they backed down as it would use up all of their expense account and cut into the reward they are to get. </rant> |
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Akhkharu Is it me?... Mar 22 2010, 03:49 AM
Method Sounds like a classic case of "OoC Discussion... Mar 22 2010, 03:55 AM
AndyZ I am loathe to give this suggestion, but I honestl... Mar 22 2010, 03:57 AM
MindandPen QUOTE (AndyZ @ Mar 21 2010, 09:57 PM) I s... Mar 23 2010, 05:28 PM
Fatum QUOTE (Akhkharu @ Mar 22 2010, 06:49 AM) ... Mar 22 2010, 03:59 AM
nemafow Although you have left it very open and they can d... Mar 22 2010, 04:10 AM
Whipstitch Unless you're leaving information out that sou... Mar 22 2010, 04:17 AM
kjones Sounds like it's time for a chat with your pla... Mar 22 2010, 04:46 AM
DireRadiant QUOTE (Akhkharu @ Mar 21 2010, 09:49 PM) ... Mar 22 2010, 04:48 AM
Brol_The_Mighty QUOTE (Akhkharu @ Mar 21 2010, 10:49 PM) ... Mar 22 2010, 07:11 AM
Jhaiisiin QUOTE (Brol_The_Mighty @ Mar 22 2010, 01... Mar 22 2010, 01:02 PM
Saint Sithney I'd consider talking to your peoples about reb... Mar 22 2010, 09:21 AM
dannyortiz QUOTE (Akhkharu @ Mar 21 2010, 10:49 PM) ... Mar 22 2010, 10:33 AM
Dwight I'm not exactly sure, because this is a rant, ... Mar 22 2010, 01:13 PM
forgarn Have you read any of the fiction in the SR4A book?... Mar 22 2010, 01:40 PM
Kovu Muphasa QUOTE (forgarn @ Mar 22 2010, 09:40 AM) H... Mar 22 2010, 03:30 PM
Whipstitch On the subject of "GM PCs," I generally ... Mar 22 2010, 03:57 PM
Rotbart van Dainig QUOTE (Akhkharu @ Mar 22 2010, 04:49 AM) ... Mar 22 2010, 04:33 PM
KnightIII I reccomend shock collars. Few things keep a playe... Mar 22 2010, 04:56 PM
MindandPen QUOTE (KnightIII @ Mar 22 2010, 10:56 AM)... Mar 23 2010, 05:42 PM
toturi QUOTE (MindandPen @ Mar 24 2010, 01:42 AM... Mar 24 2010, 06:48 AM
makari Ak, it really just sounds like the players are sim... Mar 22 2010, 08:59 PM
Lok1 :) From what I can see hear I can only give you the d... Mar 22 2010, 09:20 PM
Backgammon Some people play roleplaying games not so much to ... Mar 22 2010, 09:38 PM
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Backgammon I didn't say it Mar 22 2010, 09:49 PM
The Jake I don't like to impose time restrictions but I... Mar 22 2010, 10:53 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (The Jake @ Mar 22 2010, 04:53 PM) ... Mar 23 2010, 12:59 AM
Daylen QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Mar 23 2010, 01... Mar 23 2010, 01:04 AM
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Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (The Jake @ Mar 22 2010, 07:46 PM) ... Mar 23 2010, 01:52 AM
kjones Players sitting around with their thumbs up their ... Mar 23 2010, 12:11 AM
Wounded Ronin In general players never come up with the solution... Mar 23 2010, 12:31 AM
kigmatzomat Some players just don't get some settings. It... Mar 23 2010, 01:24 AM
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Whipstitch I just really, really object to the idea that peop... Mar 23 2010, 01:49 AM
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Fatum So wait, you have a dark group of PCs, and he enjo... Mar 23 2010, 03:49 AM
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