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Snow_Fox
post Apr 4 2010, 01:38 PM
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The world of Shadowrun has always been proudly dystopian with humanity being gorund under various forces(Mega corps,policlubs, anarchic gangs, toxic mages, bug spirits,AI, Horrors) that are at best uncaring and at worst activily hostile towards humanity, seeking to enslave, destroy or corrupt them. against this seems to be athin line of humanity, often these are Shadowrunners who are sometimes Robin Hoods, sometimes just mercinary hoods.

But yet humanity survives and even seems to thrive. so is there some higher power hidden in the wings? some greater force for good supporting metahumanity or is it just our indominable spirit?

Cannonically Dunkelzahn could be seen as such and he tried to motivate elder powers to act for good, he actions even living on from beyond the grave. At the risk of offending Christians, he willingly sacrified himself (to destroy the Horrors) so that metahumanity might live on. But is there more out there? a higher power for good that might serve to, if not take a direct hand in things, motivates and directs people to the needed place and action for the greater good?
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- Snow_Fox   and in this corner....?   Apr 4 2010, 01:38 PM
- - Garou   I know nothing of earthdawn, Snow, but i like the ...   Apr 4 2010, 03:08 PM
- - Draco18s   In general: most of the Great Dragons. Though adm...   Apr 4 2010, 03:10 PM
- - kjones   Dunkelzahn died for your sins!   Apr 4 2010, 03:24 PM
|- - Snow_Fox   QUOTE (kjones @ Apr 4 2010, 10:24 AM) Dun...   Apr 4 2010, 04:37 PM
|- - CanadianWolverine   QUOTE (Snow_Fox @ Apr 4 2010, 09:37 AM) o...   Apr 4 2010, 04:57 PM
- - Mongoose   Anybody old enough to have survived the 4rth world...   Apr 4 2010, 03:53 PM
- - Ophis   Generally Hestaby, Ghostwalker and Lofwyr are imho...   Apr 4 2010, 03:57 PM
- - CanadianWolverine   QUOTE (Snow_Fox @ Apr 4 2010, 06:38 AM) A...   Apr 4 2010, 04:29 PM
- - LurkerOutThere   Big L would not suffer something as trivial as a m...   Apr 4 2010, 05:50 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Apr 4 2010, 01:50...   Apr 4 2010, 09:29 PM
|- - kjones   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Apr 4 2010, 05:29 PM) B...   Apr 4 2010, 09:51 PM
- - knasser   Horizon, of course. They say they're the good ...   Apr 4 2010, 06:36 PM
- - Dr. Funkenstein   Harlequinn is definitely the big gun for good in S...   Apr 4 2010, 07:23 PM
|- - Ophis   QUOTE (Dr. Funkenstein @ Apr 4 2010, 08:2...   Apr 5 2010, 11:22 AM
- - hermit   Shadowrun is a bit like 40K there. Humainty prevai...   Apr 4 2010, 08:10 PM
|- - Dr. Funkenstein   QUOTE (hermit @ Apr 4 2010, 03:10 PM) Hor...   Apr 4 2010, 09:51 PM
|- - Hagga   QUOTE (Dr. Funkenstein @ Apr 4 2010, 09:5...   Apr 5 2010, 01:36 PM
- - Mongoose   Hermit- where are you getting all this paranoia fr...   Apr 4 2010, 08:54 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE Hermit- where are you getting all this paran...   Apr 4 2010, 09:52 PM
|- - Sengir   QUOTE (hermit @ Apr 4 2010, 09:52 PM) The...   Apr 4 2010, 10:07 PM
|- - hermit   QUOTE (Sengir @ Apr 5 2010, 12:07 AM) Huh...   Apr 4 2010, 10:13 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (hermit @ Apr 4 2010, 03:13 PM) Thr...   Apr 4 2010, 10:20 PM
|- - Sengir   QUOTE (hermit @ Apr 4 2010, 10:13 PM) Thr...   Apr 4 2010, 10:28 PM
|- - Ancient History   QUOTE (hermit @ Apr 4 2010, 10:13 PM) Thr...   Apr 6 2010, 06:02 PM
- - Demonseed Elite   I tend to take the same view of the setting that k...   Apr 4 2010, 09:56 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE I tend to take the same view of the setting ...   Apr 4 2010, 10:08 PM
- - Dr. Funkenstein   Just because they might have some corruption, that...   Apr 4 2010, 10:18 PM
- - Ascalaphus   Where did you get those rumors of Wuxing and Horro...   Apr 4 2010, 10:19 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE Where did you get those rumors of Wuxing and...   Apr 4 2010, 10:31 PM
- - Dr. Funkenstein   QUOTE Hiring a bug spirit for head of R&D is m...   Apr 4 2010, 10:38 PM
- - Demonseed Elite   And just to really screw with your heads, there ar...   Apr 4 2010, 10:38 PM
|- - hermit   QUOTE (Demonseed Elite @ Apr 5 2010, 12:3...   Apr 4 2010, 10:42 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (hermit @ Apr 4 2010, 03:42 PM) Yes...   Apr 4 2010, 10:43 PM
|- - hermit   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Apr 5 2010, 12...   Apr 4 2010, 10:46 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (hermit @ Apr 4 2010, 03:46 PM) Any...   Apr 4 2010, 10:49 PM
|- - hermit   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Apr 5 2010, 12...   Apr 4 2010, 10:53 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (hermit @ Apr 4 2010, 03:53 PM) Not...   Apr 4 2010, 10:56 PM
|- - hermit   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Apr 5 2010, 12...   Apr 4 2010, 11:02 PM
- - nylanfs   You know this argument gets a lot funnier if you j...   Apr 4 2010, 10:55 PM
- - Stahlseele   Aztlan is actually trying to BRIDGE the Chasm on t...   Apr 4 2010, 11:06 PM
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- - Doc Byte   QUOTE (Snow_Fox @ Apr 4 2010, 03:38 PM) B...   Apr 5 2010, 12:36 AM
- - kjones   I'm looking at RH p. 25 (Wuxing Skytower) and ...   Apr 5 2010, 01:45 AM
- - hermit   Okay, it was in more than one place. And not in th...   Apr 5 2010, 10:23 AM
|- - Demonseed Elite   QUOTE (hermit @ Apr 5 2010, 06:23 AM) Oka...   Apr 5 2010, 11:45 AM
|- - Sengir   QUOTE (hermit @ Apr 5 2010, 11:23 AM) You...   Apr 5 2010, 12:11 PM
- - Dr. Funkenstein   Regarding my earlier question: Is there evidence ...   Apr 5 2010, 10:39 AM
- - hermit   QUOTE Regarding my earlier question: Is there evid...   Apr 5 2010, 10:45 AM
- - Dr. Funkenstein   QUOTE And that means they are lost. Not necessaril...   Apr 5 2010, 10:55 AM
- - hermit   Then I misremembered, thanks. Still, I'd exp...   Apr 5 2010, 12:27 PM
|- - Demonseed Elite   QUOTE (hermit @ Apr 5 2010, 08:27 AM) Als...   Apr 5 2010, 01:12 PM
|- - Sengir   QUOTE (hermit @ Apr 5 2010, 12:27 PM) Sti...   Apr 5 2010, 01:44 PM
- - The_Vanguard   QUOTE (Snow_Fox @ Apr 4 2010, 03:38 PM) T...   Apr 5 2010, 01:01 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE Certainly. Then again, we only know the name...   Apr 5 2010, 03:09 PM
|- - Sengir   QUOTE (hermit @ Apr 5 2010, 03:09 PM) Yes...   Apr 5 2010, 06:16 PM
- - Demonseed Elite   I don't really think Wuxing suffers from a Hor...   Apr 5 2010, 03:16 PM
- - hermit   Elements within Wuxing might be. As with Aztech, t...   Apr 5 2010, 03:21 PM
- - LurkerOutThere   Personally that's I think the saving grace of ...   Apr 5 2010, 05:11 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE it's entirely possible that Knight is aw...   Apr 5 2010, 06:25 PM
|- - Sengir   QUOTE (hermit @ Apr 5 2010, 06:25 PM) lik...   Apr 5 2010, 07:27 PM
- - LurkerOutThere   Why not? Have we truly become so tropified that we...   Apr 5 2010, 06:33 PM
|- - hermit   QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Apr 5 2010, 08:33...   Apr 5 2010, 07:25 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE Or from outside the universe: SR is not a on...   Apr 5 2010, 09:22 PM
|- - Sengir   QUOTE (hermit @ Apr 5 2010, 09:22 PM) Yes...   Apr 5 2010, 10:45 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE Uh, great. Sometimes the force behind everyt...   Apr 5 2010, 11:23 PM
|- - Sengir   QUOTE (hermit @ Apr 5 2010, 11:23 PM) The...   Apr 6 2010, 02:59 PM
- - Saint Sithney   Here's a question. What are the major forces ...   Apr 6 2010, 04:22 AM
|- - Dr. Funkenstein   QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Apr 5 2010, 11:22 ...   Apr 6 2010, 04:43 AM
- - hermit   QUOTE What are the major forces for good today, an...   Apr 6 2010, 08:42 AM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (hermit @ Apr 6 2010, 04:42 AM) the...   Apr 7 2010, 01:34 PM
- - Stahlseele   World Health Organization? Red Cross? UNO/Blue He...   Apr 6 2010, 08:46 AM
|- - Brazilian_Shinobi   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Apr 6 2010, 05:46 AM)...   Apr 6 2010, 04:01 PM
- - last_of_the_great_mikeys   You know, cannonically speaking, Damian Knight is ...   Apr 6 2010, 04:37 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE Suppose we get new SR novels (not counting t...   Apr 6 2010, 05:35 PM
|- - Sengir   QUOTE (hermit @ Apr 6 2010, 06:35 PM) Poi...   Apr 6 2010, 06:30 PM
|- - Brazilian_Shinobi   QUOTE (hermit @ Apr 6 2010, 02:35 PM) Nop...   Apr 6 2010, 08:35 PM
|- - hermit   QUOTE (Brazilian_Shinobi @ Apr 6 2010, 10...   Apr 6 2010, 09:35 PM
|- - Brazilian_Shinobi   QUOTE (hermit @ Apr 6 2010, 06:35 PM) Tir...   Apr 7 2010, 01:54 AM
- - nezumi   I have to say, hermit, you are rocking my world. T...   Apr 6 2010, 05:59 PM
- - Stahlseele   That is NOT better!   Apr 6 2010, 06:04 PM
- - hermit   I like to think Magic in SR is kind of like the Fo...   Apr 6 2010, 06:27 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE Several quakes and volcanoes all around the ...   Apr 6 2010, 07:08 PM
|- - Sengir   QUOTE (hermit @ Apr 6 2010, 07:08 PM) No,...   Apr 6 2010, 07:22 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE Uhm, what was the GGD about, then? Crushing ...   Apr 6 2010, 08:09 PM
|- - Sengir   QUOTE (hermit @ Apr 6 2010, 08:09 PM) Unl...   Apr 6 2010, 10:25 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE Kind of during YotC and kind of when the dra...   Apr 6 2010, 10:47 PM
|- - Sengir   QUOTE (hermit @ Apr 6 2010, 10:47 PM) You...   Apr 7 2010, 01:05 PM
|- - Dread Moores   QUOTE (Sengir @ Apr 7 2010, 08:05 AM) And...   Apr 7 2010, 01:44 PM
|- - nezumi   QUOTE (Sengir @ Apr 7 2010, 08:05 AM) And...   Apr 7 2010, 01:50 PM
|- - Sengir   QUOTE (nezumi @ Apr 7 2010, 01:50 PM) As ...   Apr 7 2010, 09:45 PM
- - hermit   It really is, yes. And yet another correction: I...   Apr 7 2010, 11:04 AM
- - Ascalaphus   There was something that limited the effects of nu...   Apr 7 2010, 02:21 PM
|- - Red_Cap   QUOTE (Ascalaphus @ Apr 7 2010, 08:21 AM)...   Apr 7 2010, 08:58 PM
- - Demonseed Elite   I'm just going to hop into this thread for a m...   Apr 7 2010, 03:04 PM
- - X-Kalibur   Knight is just a means justify the ends kind of gu...   Apr 7 2010, 09:08 PM
- - Stahlseele   No, the Big D actually WAS the good guy in Shadowr...   Apr 7 2010, 10:19 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE According to the shadowtalk, these Templar a...   Apr 7 2010, 11:01 PM
- - nezumi   Hermit is right about the horrors. There are excep...   Apr 8 2010, 01:43 PM
- - FrankTrollman   If you want to get into the thick and sticky of it...   Apr 8 2010, 08:40 PM
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