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Dakka Dakka
post Apr 27 2010, 07:56 PM
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As of SR4A the maximum damage a bow, or correctly the arrow fired from a bow, can inflict is Rating *1.5. With Rating 6 (maximum for norms and elves without attack penalty) only 9P can be inflicted with such a weapon. With a bow for average humans it gets even more ridiculous. The maximum damage is 3*1.5= 4.5; the Bow however does a minimum of 6P.

The rules don't even specify if custom arrows (from Arsenal) or Called shots can surpass this limit.

Did someone go too far in trying to make troll bows more reasonable? I think this attempt failed, 18P(maximum for a STR 12 Bow, needs 4 net hits) should put a dent in most targets.
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- Dakka Dakka   [SR4A] Bows for the unaugmented human don't kill?   Apr 27 2010, 07:56 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Well, can light and medium pistols kill?   Apr 27 2010, 08:04 PM
- - Dakka Dakka   A skilled shooter can kill with them. IIRC there ...   Apr 27 2010, 08:07 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Heh, I meant 4P and 5P pistols, because of his ...   Apr 27 2010, 08:14 PM
- - FriendoftheDork   QUOTE (Dakka Dakka @ Apr 27 2010, 08:56 P...   Apr 27 2010, 08:16 PM
|- - Muspellsheimr   QUOTE (FriendoftheDork @ Apr 27 2010, 02...   Apr 28 2010, 06:27 AM
||- - FriendoftheDork   QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ Apr 28 2010, 07:27...   Apr 28 2010, 02:50 PM
||- - Karoline   QUOTE (FriendoftheDork @ Apr 28 2010, 10...   Apr 28 2010, 03:02 PM
|||- - D2F   QUOTE (Karoline @ Apr 28 2010, 03:02 PM) ...   Apr 28 2010, 03:15 PM
||- - Muspellsheimr   QUOTE (FriendoftheDork @ Apr 28 2010, 08...   Apr 28 2010, 06:00 PM
||- - ClemulusRex   QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ Apr 28 2010, 06:00...   Apr 28 2010, 07:09 PM
||- - FriendoftheDork   QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ Apr 28 2010, 07:00...   Apr 28 2010, 10:22 PM
||- - Shinobi Killfist   QUOTE (FriendoftheDork @ Apr 28 2010, 05...   Apr 28 2010, 11:05 PM
|- - Nifft   QUOTE (FriendoftheDork @ Apr 27 2010, 03...   Apr 28 2010, 07:49 PM
|- - Nifft   QUOTE (Karoline @ Apr 28 2010, 04:18 PM) ...   Apr 28 2010, 09:45 PM
|- - Tyro   QUOTE (Nifft @ Apr 28 2010, 01:45 PM) Tha...   Apr 28 2010, 09:54 PM
- - Shinobi Killfist   If the max damage was purely for the purpose of sh...   Apr 27 2010, 08:54 PM
- - Dumori   I've not read the trollbow "fixing" ...   Apr 27 2010, 09:19 PM
- - Dahrken   Which page are those rules ? I looked for them but...   Apr 27 2010, 09:25 PM
- - Dakka Dakka   STR 8? It's twelve. QUOTE ('SR4A p. 316...   Apr 27 2010, 09:38 PM
|- - Medicineman   QUOTE (Dakka Dakka @ Apr 27 2010, 04:38 P...   Apr 28 2010, 07:01 AM
|- - D2F   QUOTE (Medicineman @ Apr 28 2010, 07:01 A...   Apr 28 2010, 01:02 PM
- - Tyro   I too would love to see a better fix. FriendOfTheD...   Apr 28 2010, 03:43 AM
- - Emeraldknite   Does any one know where this rule is? The one abou...   Apr 28 2010, 03:54 AM
- - Karoline   I'd just remove the 1.5*rating cap on a bow. ...   Apr 28 2010, 04:08 AM
- - Tyro   Yeah, I think FotD is right. I'm going to adop...   Apr 28 2010, 04:54 AM
- - Mantis   Some of you are referencing the SR4a PDF and some ...   Apr 28 2010, 05:49 AM
- - Dakka Dakka   While this nerfs troll bows even more, at least it...   Apr 28 2010, 07:03 AM
- - Medicineman   I Agree (even though 2 of my Chars are Troll Arche...   Apr 28 2010, 07:05 AM
- - Karoline   You know, if it says it like that, I don't kno...   Apr 28 2010, 12:12 PM
- - Dumori   If you think troll bow do too much damage you have...   Apr 28 2010, 01:49 PM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (Dumori @ Apr 28 2010, 09:49 AM) If...   Apr 28 2010, 02:30 PM
- - Karoline   I agree, 8P I could totally see, that's along ...   Apr 28 2010, 03:25 PM
|- - D2F   QUOTE (Karoline @ Apr 28 2010, 03:25 PM) ...   Apr 28 2010, 03:40 PM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (D2F @ Apr 28 2010, 11:40 AM) Bulle...   Apr 28 2010, 03:43 PM
|- - Starmage21   QUOTE (Karoline @ Apr 28 2010, 10:43 AM) ...   Apr 28 2010, 04:15 PM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (Starmage21 @ Apr 28 2010, 11:15 AM...   Apr 28 2010, 04:17 PM
|- - Starmage21   QUOTE (Karoline @ Apr 28 2010, 12:17 PM) ...   Apr 28 2010, 04:56 PM
- - Yerameyahu   It's along the lines of a Sport Rifle, actuall...   Apr 28 2010, 03:29 PM
- - Dumori   I guess it depends on what deforms and how. I...   Apr 28 2010, 04:46 PM
- - Yerameyahu   As if bow/strength rule is something to fight over...   Apr 28 2010, 07:13 PM
|- - ClemulusRex   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Apr 28 2010, 07:13 PM...   Apr 28 2010, 07:15 PM
- - AngelisStorm   Obviously this arguement needs some scientific tes...   Apr 28 2010, 07:56 PM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (AngelisStorm @ Apr 28 2010, 03:56 ...   Apr 28 2010, 09:18 PM
- - forgarn   I don't see anywhere that it is limited to any...   Apr 28 2010, 08:41 PM
- - Mongoose   If large, mechanically propelled missiles were act...   Apr 28 2010, 09:54 PM


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