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Nifft
post May 8 2010, 08:01 PM
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There seems to be some difference in interpretation regarding how this power works, which can be excused since it's so vaguely worded. The wording in question:
The adept is capable of tuning out a single distraction to her task at hand. When using this power, the adept can ignore a single situational negative dice pool modifier of a value up to her Magic attribute. This power requires a Complex Action to activate and maybe be[sic] combined with the Adept Centering metamagic.


Yes, "maybe be" is in the original text. Combined with my observations of contention regarding meaning & intent, this leads to my first assertion:
Assertion 1: This power was poorly written and edited. Reading deeply for hidden meaning will be fruitless.


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Now, there are two ways people seem to read how the power works, RAW. To some, it looks like "task at hand" = "one test", and thus the power allows you to take a Complex action to negate one penalty to a single dicepool. To others, "task at hand" = multiple tests, and thus the power allows you to take a Complex action to negate one penalty to several dicepools.

There is a very significant power gap between these two interpretations. The first interpretation makes Heightened Concentration hardly worth its price, while the second (arguably) makes it among the best in the game.

Neither seems very balanced, though the latter could be if "task at hand" were defined. But it isn't.

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So, how strong should Heightened Concentration be? Let's look at what you could do with the same 1 power point:
- Attribute Boost 4 + Magic 5 = 9 dice (+ Edge if you really care) = expected 3 successes (+ Edge) = +3 dice to something you care about for 3 combat rounds. Simple action, Stun drain to soak.
- Enhanced Perception 4 = +4 dice to something you care about several times per combat, always on, no drain to soak.
- Combat Sense 2 = +2 dice to something you really care about several times per round, always on, no drain to soak.

In contrast, the most liberal interpretation of Heightened Concentration grants you:
- Magic 5 = +5 dice (limited by situational modifiers, but it's not like it's hard to put yourself in situations where such modifiers exist). Complex action, always on, no drain to soak.

The closest direct comparison seems to be Attribute Boost, so let's consider using the duration limit on that.

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Proposal: Revised Heightened Concentration
Cost: 1 pp
The adept is capable of tuning out a single source of distraction for a short time. When using this power, the adept can ignore a single situational negative dice pool modifier of a value up to her Magic attribute. This power requires a Complex Action to activate and lasts for (Magic +1) / 2 combat rounds. This power has the following limitations:
- You cannot use this power on a situational modifier to which you are not subject: i.e. you must be wounded to ignore wound penalties.
- Does not stack with Psyche: if you have 5 Magic, you can sustain 3 spells for a total penalty of -1 dice, which is still pretty darn good.

Thoughts? Thanks, -- N
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- Nifft   Heightened Concentration   May 8 2010, 08:01 PM
- - Karoline   I think something that should be kept in mind is t...   May 8 2010, 08:36 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Karoline @ May 8 2010, 02:36 PM) I...   May 8 2010, 09:46 PM
|- - Udoshi   QUOTE (Karoline @ May 8 2010, 01:36 PM) S...   May 8 2010, 11:11 PM
- - Zyerne   I think this came out of my biker adept thread and...   May 8 2010, 08:43 PM
|- - Mongoose   QUOTE (Zyerne @ May 8 2010, 09:43 PM) I t...   May 8 2010, 09:44 PM
- - Karoline   Doesn't that only cover perception checks? I ...   May 8 2010, 08:45 PM
- - Zyerne   Perceiving the VR Matrix in its full glory overwhe...   May 8 2010, 08:47 PM
- - Demon_Bob   Wanted to read over the full power before answerin...   May 8 2010, 08:51 PM
|- - Nifft   QUOTE (Demon_Bob @ May 8 2010, 04:51 PM) ...   May 8 2010, 08:56 PM
- - Ancient History   As one of the people involved in DG, I believe the...   May 8 2010, 11:17 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Ancient History @ May 8 2010, 04:1...   May 9 2010, 01:14 AM
|- - Nifft   QUOTE (Ancient History @ May 8 2010, 07:1...   May 9 2010, 02:44 AM
- - Zyerne   Full auto burst from a modified Enfield AS-7 with ...   May 8 2010, 11:33 PM
- - Dr. Funkenstein   It should work exactly as described, and in refere...   May 9 2010, 12:12 AM
- - Ancient History   I can't remember who originally wrote the powe...   May 9 2010, 02:50 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Ancient History @ May 8 2010, 07:5...   May 9 2010, 03:12 AM
- - Yerameyahu   I said in the other thread: I feel like it's p...   May 9 2010, 03:39 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ May 8 2010, 08:39 PM)...   May 9 2010, 04:27 AM
- - Dr. Funkenstein   To be fair, while AH is really good with the fluff...   May 9 2010, 04:32 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Dr. Funkenstein @ May 8 2010, 09:3...   May 9 2010, 04:37 AM
|- - Ancient History   QUOTE (Dr. Funkenstein @ May 9 2010, 04:3...   May 9 2010, 12:48 PM
- - Dr. Funkenstein   It comes down to balancing it with Adept Centering...   May 9 2010, 04:49 AM
- - Falconer   I'm reading that, and Ancient's reading is...   May 9 2010, 02:02 PM
- - Yerameyahu   I'm not sure I follow. If each sustaining pena...   May 9 2010, 03:30 PM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ May 9 2010, 10:30 AM)...   May 9 2010, 04:47 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Karoline @ May 9 2010, 10:47 AM) B...   May 9 2010, 04:53 PM
- - Nifft   Alright, it seems like we've got a good grasp ...   May 9 2010, 07:54 PM
- - Yerameyahu   … I think it's just that. Kind of a big deal.   May 9 2010, 08:01 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ May 9 2010, 01:01 PM)...   May 9 2010, 08:36 PM
|- - Nifft   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ May 9 2010, 04:01 PM)...   May 10 2010, 12:54 AM
- - Yerameyahu   I dunno about your book, but the fundamental point...   May 9 2010, 08:50 PM
- - Dr. Funkenstein   If the purpose was to allow an adept with Living F...   May 9 2010, 09:11 PM
- - Ancient History   I was just giving that out there as an example. As...   May 9 2010, 09:13 PM
|- - Dr. Funkenstein   QUOTE (Ancient History @ May 9 2010, 04:1...   May 9 2010, 09:16 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Right, that's what I said. The result is a ki...   May 10 2010, 01:20 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ May 9 2010, 06:20 PM)...   May 10 2010, 01:25 AM
- - Yerameyahu   *Kind of* redundant, not 'nearly worthless...   May 10 2010, 01:26 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ May 9 2010, 06:26 PM)...   May 10 2010, 01:27 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Because who cares about visibility, or even VR pen...   May 10 2010, 02:05 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ May 9 2010, 07:05 PM)...   May 10 2010, 02:16 AM
- - Yerameyahu   I guess, but you should have SuperGoggles™, or Vis...   May 10 2010, 02:22 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ May 9 2010, 07:22 PM)...   May 10 2010, 02:34 AM
- - Yerameyahu   But I'm still saying that you can't use it...   May 10 2010, 02:38 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ May 9 2010, 07:38 PM)...   May 10 2010, 02:59 AM
- - Yerameyahu   No, the brokenness comes from saying it works all ...   May 10 2010, 03:03 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ May 9 2010, 08:03 PM)...   May 10 2010, 03:09 AM
- - Falconer   I strongly disagree with you Tymeaus. The ONLY t...   May 10 2010, 03:16 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Falconer @ May 9 2010, 08:16 PM) I...   May 10 2010, 03:36 AM
- - Falconer   Like visibility... well blind fire doesn't app...   May 10 2010, 04:18 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Falconer @ May 9 2010, 10:18 PM) L...   May 11 2010, 02:15 AM
- - Falconer   I see what you're saying... I'm the opposi...   May 11 2010, 04:14 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Falconer @ May 10 2010, 09:14 PM) ...   May 12 2010, 02:25 AM
- - Shinobi Killfist   This does seem really abusive. It looks like a po...   May 11 2010, 04:54 AM
- - Nifft   QUOTE (Shinobi Killfist @ May 11 2010, 12...   May 11 2010, 11:28 PM
- - Karoline   QUOTE (Nifft @ May 11 2010, 06:28 PM) Is ...   May 12 2010, 12:31 AM
- - pbangarth   QUOTE (Karoline @ May 11 2010, 05:31 PM) ...   May 12 2010, 03:01 AM


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