 Unkillable Ghostwalker? |
 May 9 2010, 06:25 PM
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It's been brought up a couple times, so I felt it was worth commenting on real quick. Agree or disagree, I don't care much. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
1) Ghostwalker is arguably the most powerful Great Dragon in Shadowrun. Obviously, there's no stats, but I believe he was/is inteneded to be at least on part with Lofwyr, if not more so, physically. Considering his mastery of spirits, it's not that much of a stretch to say he also probably the powerful in terms of Magic. 2) GW is a master of Spirits. We saw this when he took on Denver. He didn't do it alone, he had spirits. A LOT of spirits. a lot of BIG spirits. 3) Go read Invoking Great Forms, SPirit Pacts, that sort of thing. Ghost walker can do all of that, at high numbers. If Ghost Walker rolled into Denver without at least 30+ points of hardened armor, I'll eat my copy of YotC. At the very least, I'd bet GW can pull off a trick similar to a Possession Tradition mage. And even with a Baseline Great Dragon (Magic 12), Summoning up a Force 12 spirit (Far less than they can do on thier own), that's and extra 24 points of hardened armor right there. Plus, I think people over-estimate how much military hardware that was available. I always got the impression that each sector only had a token militray presence, per terms of the treaty (at least in terms of heavy hardware), and everything was over long before anyone really had a chance to respond with external military support. Bull |
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Bull Unkillable Ghostwalker? May 9 2010, 06:25 PM
Ancient History I think if any of the respective militaries involv... May 9 2010, 06:30 PM
Bull QUOTE (Ancient History @ May 9 2010, 02:3... May 9 2010, 06:47 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Bull @ May 9 2010, 11:47 AM) Agree... May 9 2010, 08:00 PM Bull QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ May 9 2010, 03... May 9 2010, 08:21 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Bull @ May 9 2010, 01:21 PM) No, t... May 9 2010, 09:12 PM kzt QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ May 9 2010, 02... May 9 2010, 11:32 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (kzt @ May 9 2010, 04:32 PM) 4.2 * ... May 10 2010, 01:06 AM Kliko QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ May 9 2010, 09... May 10 2010, 12:41 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ May 9 2010, 07... May 11 2010, 12:05 AM Kliko QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ May 10 2010, 07... May 11 2010, 10:53 AM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Kliko @ May 11 2010, 03:53 AM) Sor... May 12 2010, 02:14 AM Kliko QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ May 11 2010, 10... May 12 2010, 07:25 AM kzt QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ May 10 2010, 05... May 11 2010, 08:58 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (kzt @ May 11 2010, 01:58 PM) If th... May 12 2010, 02:21 AM Hagga QUOTE (Bull @ May 9 2010, 09:21 PM) No, t... May 10 2010, 01:35 PM Dread Moores Edit: Ninja'd by the author. That's awesom... May 10 2010, 04:26 AM Patrick Goodman Operative term is "eventually." And the ... May 9 2010, 06:32 PM Mantis That was my impression too. There was mention of l... May 9 2010, 06:36 PM Demonseed Elite QUOTE (Mantis @ May 9 2010, 02:36 PM) Thi... May 9 2010, 07:13 PM Banaticus QUOTE (Demonseed Elite @ May 9 2010, 11:1... May 10 2010, 02:41 PM Dr. Funkenstein QUOTE (Demonseed Elite @ May 9 2010, 02:1... May 10 2010, 02:54 PM Whipstitch That's more or less how I feel about it. As Bu... May 9 2010, 07:56 PM Glyph The great dragons have always annoyed the hell out... May 9 2010, 08:14 PM Bull QUOTE (Whipstitch @ May 9 2010, 02:56 PM)... May 9 2010, 08:15 PM Demonseed Elite QUOTE (Bull @ May 9 2010, 03:15 PM) The t... May 9 2010, 11:39 PM Bull QUOTE (Demonseed Elite @ May 9 2010, 06:3... May 10 2010, 12:26 AM Dread Moores QUOTE (Bull @ May 9 2010, 04:15 PM) Perso... May 10 2010, 04:34 AM TomDowd One of the elements we played with in the original... May 9 2010, 08:33 PM Ophis QUOTE (TomDowd @ May 9 2010, 09:33 PM) On... May 9 2010, 10:16 PM TomDowd QUOTE (Ophis @ May 9 2010, 04:16 PM) So A... May 9 2010, 11:37 PM TomDowd QUOTE (TomDowd @ May 9 2010, 06:37 PM) My... May 10 2010, 03:56 PM JM Hardy QUOTE (TomDowd @ May 10 2010, 10:56 AM) :... May 11 2010, 02:24 AM MindandPen QUOTE (JM Hardy @ May 10 2010, 09:24 PM) ... May 11 2010, 02:40 AM JM Hardy QUOTE (MindandPen @ May 10 2010, 09:40 PM... May 11 2010, 02:46 AM Hagga QUOTE (MindandPen @ May 11 2010, 03:40 AM... May 11 2010, 10:34 AM Dumori How ever its likely that the smaller rods of crowb... May 9 2010, 09:17 PM Dr. Funkenstein The big problem is that if great dragons are this ... May 9 2010, 09:24 PM hermit Because in the great order of things, they shrink ... May 9 2010, 09:31 PM Draco18s QUOTE (hermit @ May 9 2010, 05:31 PM) dra... May 9 2010, 09:42 PM Angelone QUOTE (Draco18s @ May 9 2010, 04:42 PM) I... May 9 2010, 09:56 PM HappyDaze QUOTE and missiles being fired at him as well.
Wel... May 9 2010, 10:08 PM Draco18s QUOTE (HappyDaze @ May 9 2010, 06:08 PM) ... May 9 2010, 11:11 PM Redcrow For my own campaign setting I've essentially i... May 9 2010, 11:39 PM kzt How does it go: "Never assume conspiracy whe... May 9 2010, 11:41 PM last_of_the_great_mikeys I always got the impression that Ghostwalker was t... May 10 2010, 12:00 AM hermit QUOTE That then begs the question - Did the Draco ... May 10 2010, 12:09 AM kzt Jerry Pournelle's original concept was as a ta... May 10 2010, 04:15 AM LurkerOutThere Ghostwalker is bad writing, everything since then ... May 10 2010, 05:19 AM Whipstitch QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ May 10 2010, 12:1... May 10 2010, 07:35 AM Fuchs QUOTE (Whipstitch @ May 10 2010, 09:35 AM... May 10 2010, 12:12 PM Whipstitch QUOTE (Fuchs @ May 10 2010, 07:12 AM) As ... May 10 2010, 06:35 PM LurkerOutThere QUOTE (Whipstitch @ May 10 2010, 01:35 PM... May 11 2010, 03:03 AM Fuchs QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ May 10 2010, 07:1... May 10 2010, 12:09 PM darthmord QUOTE (Fuchs @ May 10 2010, 08:09 AM) Ful... May 10 2010, 01:29 PM MindandPen One of my prior employers has a weapons developmen... May 10 2010, 12:30 PM Demonseed Elite QUOTE (MindandPen @ May 10 2010, 07:30 AM... May 10 2010, 01:13 PM Grinder QUOTE (Demonseed Elite @ May 10 2010, 03... May 10 2010, 02:19 PM hermit QUOTE the science of a far future setting
Shadowru... May 10 2010, 12:59 PM augmentin Would really love to hear current line developer, ... May 10 2010, 01:09 PM HappyDaze I think the really craptastic part if that Ghostwa... May 10 2010, 01:13 PM Fuchs QUOTE (HappyDaze @ May 10 2010, 03:13 PM)... May 10 2010, 01:28 PM Fuchs I don't see too many backroom deals made by a ... May 10 2010, 01:33 PM Warlordtheft IIRC, I'm AFB. But GW used a combination of sp... May 10 2010, 02:06 PM hermit QUOTE Probably enough to pick off at least a runne... May 10 2010, 03:36 PM Draco18s QUOTE (hermit @ May 10 2010, 11:36 AM) Fo... May 10 2010, 03:44 PM Ascalaphus I can see how it'd work out.
First, you have ... May 10 2010, 03:45 PM LurkerOutThere was being the operative word, now we have LOL GHOS... May 10 2010, 06:11 PM Shinobi Killfist I hate ghostwalker because Denver was one of the c... May 11 2010, 02:15 AM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Shinobi Killfist @ May 10 2010, 08... May 11 2010, 02:17 AM Shinobi Killfist QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ May 10 2010, 10... May 11 2010, 04:26 AM Whipstitch But it appears that they ARE still jointly adminis... May 11 2010, 03:33 AM LurkerOutThere QUOTE (Whipstitch @ May 10 2010, 10:33 PM... May 11 2010, 05:36 AM Whipstitch QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ May 11 2010, 12:3... May 11 2010, 08:22 PM kzt QUOTE (Whipstitch @ May 11 2010, 01:22 PM... May 11 2010, 09:02 PM Banaticus The problem is that taking Denver back by any side... May 11 2010, 04:09 AM Fuchs Not to mention that when a Great Dragon attacks a ... May 11 2010, 06:44 AM hermit QUOTE Exactly how i look at it. It is meh now. Not... May 11 2010, 09:35 AM Cardul The topic of Ghostwalker is almost like the Battle... May 11 2010, 10:49 AM Draco18s QUOTE (Cardul @ May 11 2010, 06:49 AM) Fo... May 11 2010, 01:10 PM graywulfe QUOTE (Draco18s @ May 11 2010, 08:10 AM) ... May 11 2010, 01:24 PM Draco18s QUOTE (graywulfe @ May 11 2010, 09:24 AM)... May 11 2010, 01:46 PM MindandPen QUOTE (Cardul @ May 11 2010, 05:49 AM) As... May 11 2010, 05:24 PM LurkerOutThere QUOTE (Cardul @ May 11 2010, 05:49 AM) I
... May 11 2010, 06:36 PM HappyDaze I still struggle to see why the various government... May 11 2010, 12:49 PM Cardul QUOTE (HappyDaze @ May 11 2010, 07:49 AM)... May 11 2010, 03:42 PM HappyDaze QUOTE (Cardul @ May 11 2010, 10:42 AM) I ... May 11 2010, 11:14 PM Stahlseele Considering that the rift was created by the Big D... May 11 2010, 01:39 PM fistandantilus4.0 Dunk was '57, GW was year of the comet ( ... May 11 2010, 01:53 PM graywulfe QUOTE (fistandantilus4.0 @ May 11 2010, 08... May 11 2010, 02:34 PM Draco18s Thanks for that correction. I remember most of th... May 11 2010, 02:48 PM Stahlseele Burning Times or however that one novel with Talon... May 11 2010, 02:55 PM Draco18s QUOTE (Stahlseele @ May 11 2010, 10:55 AM... May 11 2010, 03:01 PM Stahlseele Psychotrope was a good novel in my eyes.
Basically... May 11 2010, 03:08 PM Draco18s QUOTE (Stahlseele @ May 11 2010, 11:08 AM... May 11 2010, 03:09 PM Stahlseele Memory not quite gone yet eh? ^^ May 11 2010, 03:25 PM Draco18s QUOTE (Stahlseele @ May 11 2010, 11:25 AM... May 11 2010, 03:42 PM DeathStrobe Going by semantics, we have a great dragon named ... May 11 2010, 06:37 PM Stahlseele QUOTE (DeathStrobe @ May 11 2010, 08:37 P... May 11 2010, 09:11 PM LurkerOutThere QUOTE (DeathStrobe @ May 11 2010, 12:37 P... May 12 2010, 12:49 PM  |
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