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post May 19 2010, 02:13 AM
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I was looking at getting 4 IP's. It costs a Phys Adept 4 whole magic points. Samurai have to spend 25 build points (and 5 BP of that is a quality, so their positive qualities are capped at 30). If they don't take these penalties, they get to sit out of combat for a round every three rounds, or every other round or maybe if they try to go with no penalty, they only get to act once every few rounds.

Mages only have to spend 2 less build points than normal (to buy the spell) because every mage has 6 spellcasting and 6 Magic and so on average will likely be able to get four successes on the spell (cast at force 4 to cap yourself at 4 successes, which is all you need to hit a threshold of 4) with a drain of 4.

That hardly seems fair. Not to mention, mages get to cast "everything" with the full benefit of their spellcasting and magic. So here's my fix:

Mages must buy their spells just like adepts buy powers.

The Wired Reflexes 3 spell would perhaps cost 3 magic points (because it's not always on), each force level of the Heal spell would cost an additional .25 magic points (so a Force 6 Heal would cost 1.5 magic points), etc. Sure, all the spell prices would have to be reworked, but wouldn't it then at least be fair to both adepts and samurai?
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- Banaticus   Should mages have to buy spells like adepts buy powers?   May 19 2010, 02:13 AM
- - Dr. Funkenstein   Considering that the spell is less effective than ...   May 19 2010, 02:18 AM
- - Glyph   Mages would hardly have any spells that way. Spel...   May 19 2010, 02:25 AM
- - Banaticus   Who cares about the reaction boost when you have p...   May 19 2010, 02:34 AM
|- - Whipstitch   QUOTE (Banaticus @ May 18 2010, 09:34 PM)...   May 19 2010, 06:35 AM
|- - Synner667   QUOTE (Banaticus @ May 19 2010, 03:34 AM)...   May 19 2010, 08:08 AM
||- - Cardul   QUOTE (Synner667 @ May 19 2010, 03:08 AM)...   May 19 2010, 10:06 AM
|- - Rasumichin   QUOTE (Banaticus @ May 19 2010, 03:34 AM)...   May 19 2010, 02:17 PM
|- - darthmord   QUOTE (Banaticus @ May 18 2010, 10:34 PM)...   May 20 2010, 04:10 PM
- - Glyph   Mages usually have way more skills that they need ...   May 19 2010, 02:40 AM
- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Banaticus @ May 18 2010, 07:13 PM)...   May 19 2010, 02:57 AM
- - KCKitsune   My Chaos Mage has a Magic 3 and Spell Casting 4, a...   May 19 2010, 03:52 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (KCKitsune @ May 18 2010, 08:52 PM)...   May 19 2010, 04:00 AM
- - Karoline   I'd think the going back to the older editions...   May 19 2010, 03:56 AM
- - Banaticus   Increasing the Magic attribute is the most expensi...   May 19 2010, 06:12 AM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (Banaticus @ May 19 2010, 04:34 AM)...   May 19 2010, 11:23 AM
|- - Banaticus   QUOTE (Mäx @ May 19 2010, 04:23 AM) This...   May 19 2010, 07:14 PM
||- - TommyTwoToes   QUOTE (Banaticus @ May 19 2010, 02:14 PM)...   May 19 2010, 07:41 PM
|- - Glyph   QUOTE (Mäx @ May 19 2010, 03:23 AM) This...   May 20 2010, 02:06 AM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (Glyph @ May 20 2010, 10:06 AM) Kar...   May 20 2010, 02:16 AM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (toturi @ May 20 2010, 04:16 AM) I ...   May 20 2010, 05:06 PM
- - Glyph   That last point of Magic costs 25 points, rather t...   May 19 2010, 06:32 AM
- - Whipstitch   Oops.   May 19 2010, 06:40 AM
- - toturi   Magic 1 (base cost of magician) Magic 2-5 (10 per ...   May 19 2010, 06:45 AM
- - Dr. Funkenstein   Personally, I'd rather blow the 25 BP (actuall...   May 19 2010, 06:51 AM
|- - Nixda   QUOTE (Dr. Funkenstein @ May 19 2010, 08...   May 19 2010, 11:44 AM
- - Whipstitch   Except that invisibility isn't foolproof.   May 19 2010, 08:54 AM
- - jimbo   So are power foci really that much better to get a...   May 19 2010, 08:17 PM
|- - Shinobi Killfist   QUOTE (jimbo @ May 19 2010, 04:17 PM) So ...   May 20 2010, 05:33 PM
- - Tanegar   If you're going to get a power focus at charge...   May 19 2010, 08:22 PM
- - Whipstitch   As long as you're avoiding the most expensive ...   May 19 2010, 09:56 PM
- - crizh   Funny, when I read the thread title I thought ...   May 20 2010, 05:36 PM
- - Tanegar   What potential abilities do you think mages are be...   May 20 2010, 08:26 PM
- - crizh   Any spell with a duration of S? Look at Analyse D...   May 20 2010, 09:21 PM
- - Tanegar   Or you could use a sustaining focus, or hand the s...   May 20 2010, 09:26 PM
|- - crizh   QUOTE (Tanegar @ May 20 2010, 10:26 PM) O...   May 20 2010, 09:32 PM
- - Tanegar   So... to replace the mechanic which stops mages f...   May 20 2010, 09:36 PM
- - crizh   Restricting the number a spells by greatly increas...   May 20 2010, 09:50 PM
- - Whipstitch   I just don't agree with that method at all. Li...   May 20 2010, 10:02 PM
- - crizh   Many of those spells are a different sort of broke...   May 21 2010, 12:06 AM
- - Whipstitch   I guess I just don't know what sort of broken ...   May 21 2010, 12:43 AM


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