Jun 4 2010, 07:24 PM
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Hullo, all!
I'm going to be GMing a game of SR4A soon, and in the course of helping one of my players set up his character, I was somewhat shocked by the apparent impact of this rule. The player in question wanted to be Robocop, so I put together a cybersuite for him targeted at corpsec cops who were badly injured in the line of duty and had lost a limb or three. The suite has 4 cyberlimbs and a cybertorso. He has 10 B/I from Armor 2 on all the pieces. If he wears, say, a lined coat in addition, he'll be sitting at 16/14 armor. He also has like 17 boxes on his physical damage track, but it occurred to me that unless I have badguys shooting nukes at him, he will never take physical damage, only stun, so those 17 boxes aren't doing him any good. On the face of it, the conversion to stun damage makes sense and I really liked the rule when I first read it, but this particular character makes the rule seem wonky. For those of you who have played, is it as wonky as it seems? Or do all the extra damage resistance dice from lots of armor soak up most of the damage? I was toying around with possible house rules in my head, like merging the P & S damage tracks into one, where you track P with an 'X' and S with a '/', but sometimes I get the notion to fix things that aren't really broken, so I thought I'd see what you guys thought. |
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HugeC Conversion of P->S from Armor Jun 4 2010, 07:24 PM
Saint Sithney That amount of armor will soak up small arms fire ... Jun 4 2010, 07:30 PM
hobgoblin QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Jun 4 2010, 09:30 ... Jun 4 2010, 08:07 PM
Yerameyahu HugeC, like from WoD? I'd really have to playt... Jun 4 2010, 07:41 PM
HugeC QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jun 4 2010, 03:41 PM)... Jun 4 2010, 09:28 PM
DireRadiant So hordes of people shooting pistols at this guy w... Jun 4 2010, 08:10 PM
Krrayn I thought the armor from cyberlimbs averaged, not ... Jun 4 2010, 08:33 PM
Saint Sithney QUOTE (Krrayn @ Jun 4 2010, 12:33 PM) I t... Jun 4 2010, 08:43 PM
Summerstorm Also one could always just try real cyborg. It has... Jun 4 2010, 09:32 PM
Yerameyahu Er, heh. I meant, 'like the way stun/lethal/a... Jun 5 2010, 01:37 AM
HugeC QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jun 4 2010, 08:37 PM)... Jun 5 2010, 02:03 AM
Bladehate Hey there HugeC. I'm actually in a similar bo... Jun 5 2010, 03:12 AM
CanadianWolverine It is only "seems" unbalanced if your ga... Jun 5 2010, 04:43 AM
noonesshowmonkey Chargen allows starting 400 bp characters to rack ... Jun 5 2010, 05:12 AM
Ramorta Where are you getting this -6 armor mod from aimin... Jun 5 2010, 05:49 AM
Yerameyahu Right: a few bursts of S&S will handle everyth... Jun 5 2010, 06:08 AM
knasser I've found one of the most effective things to... Jun 5 2010, 06:53 AM
Faraday QUOTE (knasser @ Jun 4 2010, 11:53 PM) Re... Jun 5 2010, 08:21 AM
Bull Also... Stunbolt. The single cheesiest thing in ... Jun 5 2010, 08:10 AM
Summerstorm Aye. Knasser is right there.
It is always fitting... Jun 5 2010, 08:24 AM
Bladehate As a long time GM (not in SR though) I'm prett... Jun 5 2010, 09:53 AM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Bladehate @ Jun 5 2010, 03:53 AM) ... Jun 5 2010, 03:34 PM
Shinobi Killfist QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jun 5 2010, 10... Jun 5 2010, 06:52 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Shinobi Killfist @ Jun 5 2010, 11... Jun 5 2010, 07:54 PM
Faraday QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jun 5 2010, 12... Jun 5 2010, 08:12 PM

Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Faraday @ Jun 5 2010, 02:12 PM) Mo... Jun 6 2010, 12:22 AM
Bladehate QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jun 5 2010, 07... Jun 5 2010, 10:08 PM

Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Bladehate @ Jun 5 2010, 04:08 PM) ... Jun 6 2010, 12:28 AM
Shinobi Killfist QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jun 5 2010, 03... Jun 5 2010, 11:11 PM
Muspellsheimr QUOTE (HugeC @ Jun 4 2010, 01:24 PM) I wa... Jun 5 2010, 10:24 AM
HugeC QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ Jun 5 2010, 06:24 ... Jun 5 2010, 07:41 PM
FriendoftheDork In my game, whenever an attack fails to penetrate ... Jun 5 2010, 10:51 AM
DBSubashi Let us not forget that while a "Robocop... Jun 5 2010, 12:36 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (DBSubashi @ Jun 5 2010, 06:36 AM) ... Jun 5 2010, 03:38 PM
noonesshowmonkey Due to this very problem, I choose to interpret th... Jun 5 2010, 04:16 PM
FriendoftheDork QUOTE (noonesshowmonkey @ Jun 5 2010, 06... Jun 6 2010, 12:40 AM
Yerameyahu That's quite an investment now, but what a mes... Jun 5 2010, 07:02 PM
Bladehate Tymeaus and Muspellheimer, I've enjoyed your p... Jun 5 2010, 09:27 PM
DireRadiant QUOTE (Bladehate @ Jun 5 2010, 04:27 PM) ... Jun 5 2010, 10:53 PM

Bladehate QUOTE (DireRadiant @ Jun 5 2010, 10:53 PM... Jun 5 2010, 11:18 PM
Muspellsheimr I have not yet read past this post, & do not h... Jun 6 2010, 05:16 AM
Bladehate Oh and if you decide to get even more goofy with t... Jun 5 2010, 10:14 PM
Yerameyahu How are you starting with Pain Editor and MilSpec ... Jun 5 2010, 10:27 PM
Bladehate QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jun 5 2010, 10:27 PM)... Jun 5 2010, 11:13 PM
Yerameyahu That's what I had in mind when I said applied ... Jun 5 2010, 11:01 PM
Bladehate Hah. Because I got a bit caught up in it all, I d... Jun 5 2010, 11:12 PM
Yerameyahu Well, he's not in mil-spec now, so just gas/da... Jun 5 2010, 11:14 PM
Bladehate QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jun 5 2010, 11:14 PM)... Jun 5 2010, 11:19 PM
Yerameyahu Can you really LMG freeze foam off of your body? ... Jun 5 2010, 11:23 PM
Bladehate Well, according to the rules its used to form a ca... Jun 5 2010, 11:38 PM
Yerameyahu Indeed. Honestly, I might lower the encumbrance li... Jun 5 2010, 11:46 PM
CanadianWolverine Pff, this is Shadowrun, surely some other speciali... Jun 5 2010, 11:46 PM
Ramorta For bladehate's character. I propose the scree... Jun 5 2010, 11:52 PM
Bladehate QUOTE (Ramorta @ Jun 5 2010, 11:52 PM) Fo... Jun 6 2010, 12:09 AM
Ramorta I'm away from my books at the moment. However,... Jun 6 2010, 12:13 AM
Raven the Trickster Arsenal, exotic ranged weapons section. AFB so I c... Jun 6 2010, 12:27 AM
Bladehate QUOTE (Raven the Trickster @ Jun 6 2010, 12... Jun 6 2010, 01:46 AM
Yerameyahu 'Armor modifications and gear'. Jun 6 2010, 12:38 AM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jun 5 2010, 05:38 PM)... Jun 6 2010, 02:39 AM
Yerameyahu Actually, I don't think that's what he sug... Jun 6 2010, 12:46 AM
FriendoftheDork QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jun 6 2010, 02:46 AM)... Jun 6 2010, 02:51 AM
Bladehate Called Shot to Disarm can be pretty handy as well.... Jun 6 2010, 02:52 AM
Yerameyahu The point is, the suggested rule is bypassing indi... Jun 6 2010, 02:54 AM
FriendoftheDork QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jun 6 2010, 04:54 AM)... Jun 6 2010, 10:18 AM
Faraday QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jun 5 2010, 07:54 PM)... Jun 6 2010, 09:04 PM
Yerameyahu It's not really a problem. Stun *means* incapa... Jun 6 2010, 05:21 AM
Dynamo Dave Capsule rounds/splash grenades filled with DMSO an... Jun 6 2010, 10:36 AM
Yerameyahu It doesn't not make sense. It's exactly l... Jun 6 2010, 11:59 AM
FriendoftheDork QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jun 6 2010, 01:59 PM)... Jun 6 2010, 12:52 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (FriendoftheDork @ Jun 6 2010, 05:5... Jun 6 2010, 02:00 PM
Ramorta QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jun 6 2010, 06... Jun 6 2010, 06:14 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Ramorta @ Jun 6 2010, 12:14 PM) I ... Jun 6 2010, 06:16 PM
Raven the Trickster Dermal plating you could probably manage to bypass... Jun 6 2010, 02:15 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Raven the Trickster @ Jun 6 2010, 07... Jun 6 2010, 02:52 PM
Ramorta You could fluff the attack however you want. I was... Jun 6 2010, 06:22 PM
Yerameyahu Yes, and it 'discourages' patchwork sets o... Jun 6 2010, 09:08 PM![]() ![]() |
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