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MikeKozar
post Jun 8 2010, 08:02 PM
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So, the mage in my group has shut down a number of Big Bads by using Control Thoughts ... and recently started to take packs of minions out of the fight via Mob Mind as well. The high drain on it seems to keep him from using it more then once or twice a run, but the fact that it's on the board at all makes it difficult to have interesting opposition. From a storytelling standpoint, it is brutal - unless I purposefully tweak the important characters to be invulnerable to mind control, which is kind of a dick move to the player counting on it, this guy gets one 'free' KO per game. Inevitably, he waits until the most dramatic point in the fight, and then quietly explains..."I cast Control Thoughts. (rolls) Five to resist with Willpower. (Fail) Okay, he's Mind Controlled."

It's generally an anticlimax. I'd like to find a way to make it more interesting - how do you guys deal with Control Thoughts/Mob Mind?
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- MikeKozar   Controlling Mind Control   Jun 8 2010, 08:02 PM
- - Wandering One   Loverly counterspelling spirits are a nice, easy w...   Jun 8 2010, 08:17 PM
- - Saint Sithney   BBEG Burns Edge for auto-sucess on the resist, fuc...   Jun 8 2010, 08:32 PM
- - Tanegar   If your gang's mage is developing a reputation...   Jun 8 2010, 08:34 PM
- - Udoshi   Agreed. Any spirit with Magical Guard is an excell...   Jun 8 2010, 08:35 PM
- - Blade   Don't forget about Background Count. What I l...   Jun 8 2010, 08:41 PM
|- - Wandering One   QUOTE (Blade @ Jun 8 2010, 01:41 PM) Don...   Jun 8 2010, 09:06 PM
||- - TommyTwoToes   QUOTE (Wandering One @ Jun 8 2010, 04:06 ...   Jun 9 2010, 01:46 PM
|- - Drats   QUOTE (Blade @ Jun 8 2010, 09:41 PM) What...   Jun 8 2010, 09:15 PM
- - Udoshi   Hah! Excellent, Blade. Also easy to work into...   Jun 8 2010, 09:09 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Heh: Mind Control *addiction*.   Jun 8 2010, 09:18 PM
- - Saint Sithney   QUOTE (Drats @ Jun 8 2010, 02:15 PM) Does...   Jun 8 2010, 09:25 PM
|- - Xahn Borealis   QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Jun 8 2010, 10:25 ...   Jun 8 2010, 09:50 PM
|- - Drats   QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Jun 8 2010, 10:25 ...   Jun 8 2010, 10:00 PM
|- - MikeKozar   QUOTE (Drats @ Jun 8 2010, 02:00 PM) Heh....   Jun 8 2010, 11:19 PM
|- - Drats   QUOTE (MikeKozar @ Jun 9 2010, 12:19 AM) ...   Jun 9 2010, 12:53 AM
|- - Warlordtheft   QUOTE (MikeKozar @ Jun 8 2010, 07:19 PM) ...   Jun 9 2010, 03:27 PM
- - DireRadiant   Consequences. Why do you think objective number o...   Jun 8 2010, 09:38 PM
- - Traul   Ever tried the offensive Lone Star iBall? If the ...   Jun 8 2010, 11:09 PM
- - Railgun   My GM makes our mage resist the drain from these p...   Jun 8 2010, 11:34 PM
- - tagz   I'd say one of the biggest things you can do i...   Jun 9 2010, 12:02 AM
- - IceKatze   hi hi One question that I've always wondered ...   Jun 9 2010, 12:08 AM
- - tagz   Interesting question. I'd say that the mage w...   Jun 9 2010, 12:15 AM
- - Space Ghost   Oh, and don't forget that issuing commands cos...   Jun 9 2010, 12:16 AM
- - Saint Sithney   I like mind control spells; I really do. The mani...   Jun 9 2010, 04:44 AM
- - Orcus Blackweather   I am running a mind mage in my current game. The ...   Jun 9 2010, 04:56 AM
- - DBSubashi   Any decent corp WILL have magic defense. Otherwise...   Jun 9 2010, 05:34 AM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (DBSubashi @ Jun 9 2010, 01:34 PM) ...   Jun 9 2010, 07:14 AM
||- - imperialus   QUOTE (toturi @ Jun 9 2010, 01:14 AM) Do ...   Jun 9 2010, 03:48 PM
|||- - Saint Sithney   QUOTE (imperialus @ Jun 9 2010, 08:48 AM)...   Jun 9 2010, 04:17 PM
|||- - sabs   QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Jun 9 2010, 05:17 ...   Jun 9 2010, 04:24 PM
|||- - Saint Sithney   QUOTE (sabs @ Jun 9 2010, 09:24 AM) I thi...   Jun 9 2010, 04:29 PM
|||- - imperialus   QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Jun 9 2010, 10:29 ...   Jun 9 2010, 05:19 PM
||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (toturi @ Jun 9 2010, 12:14 AM) Do ...   Jun 10 2010, 02:11 AM
||- - toturi   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jun 10 2010, 10...   Jun 10 2010, 03:32 AM
|- - HappyDaze   QUOTE (DBSubashi @ Jun 9 2010, 12:34 AM) ...   Jun 9 2010, 08:34 AM
- - Redcrow   One of the things I have done in my own game to cu...   Jun 9 2010, 05:49 AM
- - Runner Smurf   I've had similar problems with Mind Control in...   Jun 9 2010, 01:08 PM
|- - Traul   QUOTE (Runner Smurf @ Jun 9 2010, 03:08 P...   Jun 9 2010, 03:12 PM
|- - Mordinvan   QUOTE (Runner Smurf @ Jun 9 2010, 07:08 A...   Jun 11 2010, 07:45 AM
|- - Space Ghost   QUOTE (Mordinvan @ Jun 11 2010, 12:45 AM)...   Jun 11 2010, 06:00 PM
|- - Mordinvan   QUOTE (Space Ghost @ Jun 11 2010, 12:00 P...   Jun 12 2010, 02:57 PM
- - Triggvi   mind control is a crime. A big one on the order of...   Jun 9 2010, 01:35 PM
- - sabs   Another option is to give the mind controlled pers...   Jun 9 2010, 01:45 PM
- - sabs   btw if we're saying that 1% of the population ...   Jun 9 2010, 04:19 PM
- - Wandering One   If it's 20% interested in security, I think my...   Jun 9 2010, 05:19 PM
- - Orcus Blackweather   Obviously at the end of the day, statistics are ju...   Jun 9 2010, 05:23 PM
- - Red-ROM   Try Drones. Mages don't like drones.   Jun 10 2010, 02:22 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Red-ROM @ Jun 9 2010, 07:22 P...   Jun 10 2010, 02:25 AM
- - Cube   Actually, that "1% Of the Population is Awake...   Jun 10 2010, 06:29 AM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (Cube @ Jun 10 2010, 02:29 PM) Howe...   Jun 10 2010, 06:42 AM
|- - Emy   QUOTE (toturi @ Jun 10 2010, 12:42 AM) We...   Jun 10 2010, 06:45 AM
- - Blade   "1% of the population is Awakened" doesn...   Jun 10 2010, 08:08 AM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (Blade @ Jun 10 2010, 04:08 PM) ...   Jun 10 2010, 09:57 AM
- - Drats   Traditionally, people with unique skillsets have g...   Jun 10 2010, 03:03 PM
- - DBSubashi   How common are mages? And by mages, I mean "A...   Jun 10 2010, 04:16 PM
- - sabs   it's not 1% mages, it's 1% awakened. Adept...   Jun 10 2010, 04:26 PM
|- - Banaticus   QUOTE (sabs @ Jun 10 2010, 08:26 AM) It...   Jun 10 2010, 07:51 PM
- - Drats   QUOTE (sabs @ Jun 10 2010, 04:26 PM) it...   Jun 10 2010, 05:39 PM
|- - Cube   QUOTE (Drats @ Jun 10 2010, 12:39 PM) I h...   Jun 10 2010, 06:04 PM
|- - Drats   QUOTE (Cube' date = 'Jun 10 2010, 06:0...   Jun 10 2010, 06:58 PM
- - sabs   Actually I was going by karma cost. it's so m...   Jun 10 2010, 07:00 PM
- - Drats   I always viewed that as a game balance thing. Mage...   Jun 10 2010, 07:15 PM
- - Orcus Blackweather   Hmmm I think that the content of the movie or even...   Jun 10 2010, 10:11 PM
- - Space Ghost   Asamando will skew those numbers a bit too. An ent...   Jun 11 2010, 12:36 AM
|- - Drats   QUOTE (Space Ghost @ Jun 11 2010, 12:36 A...   Jun 11 2010, 03:00 AM
|- - Shinobi Killfist   QUOTE (Drats @ Jun 10 2010, 11:00 PM) As ...   Jun 11 2010, 04:11 AM
- - Shinobi Killfist   Getting back to original topic. Mind control seem...   Jun 11 2010, 04:10 AM
- - Tachi   While I can't remember where exactly I got thi...   Jun 11 2010, 05:43 AM
- - Orkimedes   I think Mind Control and Mob Mind do have the poss...   Jun 11 2010, 07:06 AM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (Orkimedes @ Jun 11 2010, 03:06 PM)...   Jun 11 2010, 07:26 AM
|- - Orkimedes   QUOTE (toturi @ Jun 11 2010, 03:26 AM) Do...   Jun 11 2010, 06:15 PM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (Orkimedes @ Jun 12 2010, 02:15 AM)...   Jun 12 2010, 01:37 AM
- - Shinobi Killfist   While I probably would not put a random ghoul on t...   Jun 11 2010, 09:44 PM
- - Cheops   To the OP and BBEGs in Shadowrun: I think you are...   Jun 12 2010, 01:12 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Cheops @ Jun 12 2010, 07:12 AM) To...   Jun 12 2010, 03:03 PM
|- - Cheops   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jun 12 2010, 04...   Jun 12 2010, 04:18 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Cheops @ Jun 12 2010, 10:18 AM) Yu...   Jun 12 2010, 04:40 PM
- - tagz   Not all background counts are placed intentionally...   Jun 12 2010, 04:55 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (tagz @ Jun 12 2010, 10:55 AM) Not ...   Jun 12 2010, 06:15 PM
- - Shinobi Killfist   I'm with Tagz and TJ on the point of whether o...   Jun 12 2010, 06:32 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Shinobi Killfist @ Jun 12 2010, 12...   Jun 12 2010, 06:57 PM
- - Aarakin   Something to keep in mind is that Mental Control/M...   Jun 13 2010, 11:47 AM
- - IceKatze   hi hi In many of the games I have played in, Corp...   Jun 13 2010, 02:02 PM


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