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Maelwys
post Jun 14 2010, 09:25 AM
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So we've been having a nice little argument about whether or not Force is an IC or OOC term. The main claim to it not being an IC term is that the person involved can't think of a good way to come up with a way to define force.

I on the other hand think that its an IC term, and offer up the following reasons.

In SR3, legality is set by force. Force X is legal, Force X+1 isn't legal. There must be some way to define force, rather than each magician judging it on their own.

In SR4, enchanting formulas contain the force of the item. They're also able to be used by people other than the creator, so Force must be quantifiable in some manner. It can't be based on a judgement by two magicians that have never met.

So what's your thoughts on it? Examples of why or why it isn't?

Anyone recall someone using the word force in an IC manner? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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- Maelwys   Force - IC or OOC   Jun 14 2010, 09:25 AM
- - Aerospider   I've always seen it as a bit of both. There mu...   Jun 14 2010, 10:03 AM
- - PBI   It's a game mechanic term. That said, if you ...   Jun 14 2010, 10:22 AM
|- - Maelwys   QUOTE (PBI @ Jun 14 2010, 04:22 AM) It...   Jun 14 2010, 04:57 PM
- - kxU   i'd imagine measuring force in game as somewha...   Jun 14 2010, 10:51 AM
- - Sengir   Funny, I wondered about the same thing just yester...   Jun 14 2010, 11:18 AM
|- - Mordinvan   QUOTE (Sengir @ Jun 14 2010, 05:18 AM) Fu...   Jun 14 2010, 11:20 AM
|- - Dakka Dakka   QUOTE (Mordinvan @ Jun 14 2010, 01:20 PM)...   Jun 14 2010, 11:40 AM
||- - Banaticus   QUOTE (Dakka Dakka @ Jun 14 2010, 03:40 A...   Jun 14 2010, 03:02 PM
||- - HugeC   QUOTE (Dakka Dakka @ Jun 14 2010, 06:40 A...   Jun 14 2010, 03:30 PM
||- - Oehler the Black   QUOTE (Dakka Dakka @ Jun 14 2010, 05:40 A...   Jun 15 2010, 12:40 AM
|- - Redcrow   QUOTE (Mordinvan @ Jun 14 2010, 11:20 AM)...   Jun 15 2010, 12:51 AM
- - Rand   I think it is an IC term as the game seems to be g...   Jun 14 2010, 04:51 PM
- - Dakka Dakka   While Force is still a meter in SR$ Force doe...   Jun 14 2010, 04:53 PM
- - DamienKnight   If scientists today can classify a storm as F3 or ...   Jun 14 2010, 07:30 PM
|- - Saint Sithney   QUOTE (DamienKnight @ Jun 14 2010, 12:30 ...   Jun 14 2010, 08:36 PM
|- - Hand-E-Food   QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Jun 15 2010, 06:36...   Jun 15 2010, 12:54 AM
- - Nexushound   Oi Chums, Is Force an IC or OOC statistic? I bele...   Jun 14 2010, 08:57 PM
- - tagz   I think that Hermetics would likely use a structur...   Jun 14 2010, 11:48 PM
- - Udoshi   To be honest, I see it both ways. Force IS an ooc ...   Jun 15 2010, 12:10 AM
- - Hagga   QUOTE (Maelwys @ Jun 14 2010, 10:25 AM) S...   Jun 15 2010, 12:11 AM
- - Shinobi Killfist   I consider it a IC thing but while force may be th...   Jun 15 2010, 12:28 AM
- - Ed_209a   I agree with the "Both" camp. It is li...   Jun 15 2010, 01:06 AM
- - nylanfs   Since spells take energy to cast (drain), why coul...   Jun 15 2010, 11:29 PM
- - Dakka Dakka   Because Force is not proportional to drain. Not on...   Jun 15 2010, 11:38 PM
- - stevebugge   I'd be inclined to say it can be both, mostly ...   Jun 16 2010, 12:03 AM
- - nylanfs   Fine just poke holes in my nice idea.   Jun 16 2010, 12:40 AM
- - Aberrant   Makes sense as an IC term to me. Maybe not force f...   Jun 16 2010, 03:25 AM
- - Nifft   "Twelve gauge autoloader" "That...   Jun 16 2010, 03:43 AM
|- - Mordinvan   QUOTE (Nifft @ Jun 15 2010, 08:43 PM) ...   Jun 16 2010, 05:00 PM
|- - Dakka Dakka   QUOTE (Mordinvan @ Jun 16 2010, 07:00 PM)...   Jun 16 2010, 05:14 PM
|- - Nifft   QUOTE (Mordinvan @ Jun 16 2010, 12:00 PM)...   Jun 16 2010, 06:55 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Nifft @ Jun 16 2010, 01:55 PM) But...   Jun 17 2010, 03:46 AM
|- - Jaid   QUOTE (Nifft @ Jun 16 2010, 02:55 PM) Can...   Jun 17 2010, 04:02 AM
|- - Mordinvan   QUOTE (Nifft @ Jun 16 2010, 11:55 AM) Can...   Jun 17 2010, 05:52 PM
- - Mr. Mage   I'd say it's probably an OOC term but depe...   Jun 16 2010, 04:15 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Sounds like a job for CAST interface, right? Make ...   Jun 17 2010, 04:14 AM
- - Yerameyahu   It still would not, I think, be a push-button ...   Jun 17 2010, 07:23 PM
|- - Jaid   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jun 17 2010, 03:23 PM...   Jun 17 2010, 11:04 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Yeah, that was me. I agree. (With myself. )   Jun 18 2010, 12:45 AM


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