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IKerensky
post Jun 23 2010, 06:42 AM
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First spell cast in SR4A last week end.

It was a massive FOR 8 Powerball(?) (Type P, Damage P, Direct, Area)

Caster roll 3 aditionnal success.

Everyone take 11P resisting only with body (and one spell-lunger with counterspell 4).

Caster took a large drain hit, physical. Opposition lie in wreck.


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That feel really, really strong to me.

Especially as I could have dual cast the spell and be nearly assured to have them all dead even without using Edge.

Am I missing something or is Direct magic really that strong ?
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- IKerensky   Spells are strong ...   Jun 23 2010, 06:42 AM
- - Emy   Yes, magic is strong. Which is why you always gee...   Jun 23 2010, 06:48 AM
|- - IKerensky   QUOTE (Emy @ Jun 23 2010, 06:48 AM) Yes, ...   Jun 23 2010, 07:45 AM
- - MikeKozar   I just had a beautiful dream... I was playing Sha...   Jun 23 2010, 07:11 AM
|- - Ragewind   QUOTE (MikeKozar @ Jun 23 2010, 02:11 AM)...   Jun 23 2010, 07:17 AM
|- - Neraph   QUOTE (MikeKozar @ Jun 23 2010, 01:11 AM)...   Jun 23 2010, 07:34 AM
|- - Brazilian_Shinobi   QUOTE (MikeKozar @ Jun 23 2010, 04:11 AM)...   Jun 23 2010, 07:16 PM
- - Makki   that topic is wrong. it should say 'Direct Com...   Jun 23 2010, 07:50 AM
|- - Cardul   QUOTE (Makki @ Jun 23 2010, 02:50 AM) tha...   Jun 23 2010, 09:40 AM
|- - IKerensky   QUOTE (Cardul @ Jun 23 2010, 09:40 AM) Yo...   Jun 23 2010, 11:54 AM
|- - Mongoose   QUOTE (IKerensky @ Jun 23 2010, 11:54 AM)...   Jun 24 2010, 06:35 PM
- - Ol' Scratch   Yes, magic is strong in general. That's the p...   Jun 23 2010, 12:16 PM
- - Doc Byte   QUOTE (IKerensky @ Jun 23 2010, 08:42 AM)...   Jun 23 2010, 12:26 PM
|- - Shinobi Killfist   QUOTE (Doc Byte @ Jun 23 2010, 07:26 AM) ...   Jun 24 2010, 01:34 AM
- - PatB   Couple of things were missing in that statement: ...   Jun 23 2010, 12:37 PM
- - IKerensky   1c - Well the Mage is a newbie as much as I am and...   Jun 23 2010, 02:07 PM
|- - PatB   QUOTE (IKerensky @ Jun 23 2010, 09:07 AM)...   Jun 23 2010, 05:19 PM
|- - Mr. Unpronounceable   QUOTE (PatB @ Jun 23 2010, 05:19 PM) For ...   Jun 23 2010, 05:30 PM
- - Rand   I have an idea about overcasting: how about you ge...   Jun 23 2010, 02:24 PM
- - Starmage21   I fail to see how this is any worse thana grenade....   Jun 23 2010, 02:39 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Duh, grenades are dangerous. On the other hand, th...   Jun 23 2010, 02:46 PM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (IKerensky @ Jun 23 2010, 04:07 PM)...   Jun 23 2010, 03:30 PM
|- - Blade   QUOTE (Mäx @ Jun 23 2010, 05:30 PM) Peppe...   Jun 23 2010, 03:35 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Yes, but I meant the ones that act as a Force 8 Po...   Jun 23 2010, 03:52 PM
- - Malachi   I like the "extra drain by the amount of over...   Jun 23 2010, 04:17 PM
- - Lanlaorn   I just don't understand the irrational fear of...   Jun 23 2010, 04:30 PM
|- - Starmage21   QUOTE (Lanlaorn @ Jun 23 2010, 11:30 AM) ...   Jun 23 2010, 04:45 PM
- - Ol' Scratch   The problem comes from the lack of a defense again...   Jun 23 2010, 04:51 PM
|- - Tanegar   QUOTE (Ol' Scratch @ Jun 23 2010, 11...   Jun 23 2010, 05:04 PM
||- - Starmage21   QUOTE (Tanegar @ Jun 23 2010, 01:04 PM) Y...   Jun 23 2010, 05:16 PM
|||- - sn0mm1s   QUOTE (Starmage21 @ Jun 23 2010, 10:16 AM...   Jun 23 2010, 05:52 PM
||- - sn0mm1s   QUOTE (Tanegar @ Jun 23 2010, 10:04 AM) Y...   Jun 23 2010, 05:46 PM
||- - Mäx   QUOTE (Tanegar @ Jun 23 2010, 08:04 PM) Y...   Jun 23 2010, 05:54 PM
||- - Whipstitch   QUOTE (Tanegar @ Jun 23 2010, 12:04 PM) Y...   Jun 24 2010, 01:04 AM
||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Whipstitch @ Jun 23 2010, 06:04 PM...   Jun 24 2010, 01:07 AM
|- - Lanlaorn   QUOTE (Ol' Scratch @ Jun 23 2010, 12...   Jun 23 2010, 06:00 PM
||- - Mäx   QUOTE (Lanlaorn @ Jun 23 2010, 09:00 PM) ...   Jun 23 2010, 06:04 PM
||- - sn0mm1s   QUOTE (Lanlaorn @ Jun 23 2010, 11:00 AM) ...   Jun 23 2010, 06:06 PM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (Ol' Scratch @ Jun 23 2010, 07...   Jun 23 2010, 06:57 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Meta-roleplay? If anything, it's *more* rolepl...   Jun 23 2010, 04:52 PM
- - SpellBinder   QUOTE (IKerensky @ Jun 22 2010, 11:42 PM)...   Jun 23 2010, 05:44 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Um. You also need LOS for those bullets. And the ...   Jun 23 2010, 05:47 PM
|- - Lanlaorn   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jun 23 2010, 01:47 PM...   Jun 23 2010, 06:08 PM
- - Lanlaorn   QUOTE (sn0mm1s @ Jun 23 2010, 02:06 PM) A...   Jun 23 2010, 06:23 PM
|- - Starmage21   QUOTE (Lanlaorn @ Jun 23 2010, 02:23 PM) ...   Jun 23 2010, 06:30 PM
|- - Doc Chase   QUOTE (Lanlaorn @ Jun 23 2010, 07:23 PM) ...   Jun 23 2010, 06:34 PM
|- - sn0mm1s   QUOTE (Lanlaorn @ Jun 23 2010, 11:23 AM) ...   Jun 23 2010, 06:42 PM
|- - MikeKozar   QUOTE (Lanlaorn @ Jun 23 2010, 10:23 AM) ...   Jun 23 2010, 06:57 PM
|- - Lanlaorn   QUOTE (MikeKozar @ Jun 23 2010, 01:57 PM)...   Jun 23 2010, 07:03 PM
|- - Warlordtheft   QUOTE (MikeKozar @ Jun 23 2010, 01:57 PM)...   Jun 23 2010, 07:24 PM
|- - TommyTwoToes   QUOTE (Warlordtheft @ Jun 23 2010, 03:24 ...   Jun 23 2010, 07:41 PM
||- - Mäx   QUOTE (Gamer6432 @ Jun 23 2010, 10:15 PM)...   Jun 23 2010, 08:01 PM
|- - cndblank   Magic is also effected by Cover. QUOTE (Warlordt...   Jun 23 2010, 11:17 PM
- - Lanlaorn   Well the situation another poster outlined was exa...   Jun 23 2010, 06:57 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Right, so we all agree: magic is scary, harder to ...   Jun 23 2010, 07:06 PM
- - DireRadiant   Glass cannons, geek the mage, consequences, and bu...   Jun 23 2010, 07:07 PM
- - Gamer6432   I'd also add that any mage who wants to live i...   Jun 23 2010, 07:15 PM
- - Warlordtheft   Forgot: Fire Arms: No limit to number of hits Magi...   Jun 23 2010, 08:20 PM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (Warlordtheft @ Jun 23 2010, 11:20 ...   Jun 23 2010, 08:25 PM
- - Ol' Scratch   <shrugs> Most of my characters, without outs...   Jun 23 2010, 08:24 PM
- - Whipstitch   Well, if most of his characters are trolls or orks...   Jun 23 2010, 08:30 PM
- - BlueMax   I got here late, all the classics have come up. G...   Jun 23 2010, 08:41 PM
- - Whipstitch   Yeah, back when I mostly played rather than GM...   Jun 23 2010, 08:53 PM
- - Cheops   Anything a sam can do a mage can do as well. Some...   Jun 23 2010, 09:10 PM
|- - Mr. Unpronounceable   QUOTE (Cheops @ Jun 23 2010, 09:10 PM) Th...   Jun 23 2010, 09:49 PM
|- - Doc Chase   QUOTE (Mr. Unpronounceable @ Jun 23 2010, 09...   Jun 23 2010, 09:52 PM
|- - Cheops   QUOTE (Doc Chase @ Jun 23 2010, 10:52 PM)...   Jun 23 2010, 10:08 PM
- - Cheops   Dangit! Twice in two days. Darn double posts...   Jun 23 2010, 09:10 PM
- - tagz   I see it as fairly reasonable right now. Yes, mag...   Jun 23 2010, 09:14 PM
- - Gamer6432   QUOTE (Mr. Unpronounceable @ Jun 23 2010, 02...   Jun 23 2010, 10:21 PM
- - Whipstitch   And that's why you get cybereyes.   Jun 24 2010, 01:08 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Whipstitch @ Jun 23 2010, 06:08 PM...   Jun 24 2010, 01:09 AM
- - Whipstitch   You don't need to negate all of the penalties....   Jun 24 2010, 01:13 AM
- - Whipstitch   And let's not get things twisted here: I am ce...   Jun 24 2010, 01:41 AM
|- - Shinobi Killfist   QUOTE (Whipstitch @ Jun 23 2010, 09:41 PM...   Jun 24 2010, 03:37 AM
- - Redcrow   Thats why I prefer to use DV=F instead of DV=F/2. ...   Jun 24 2010, 01:54 AM
- - Ol' Scratch   As I mentioned earlier, if you just get rid of ove...   Jun 24 2010, 03:46 AM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (Ol' Scratch @ Jun 24 2010, 06...   Jun 24 2010, 06:17 AM
- - fistandantilus4.0   Then you lose the flavor of the mage managing to k...   Jun 24 2010, 03:50 AM
|- - Traul   QUOTE (fistandantilus4.0 @ Jun 24 2010, 05...   Jun 24 2010, 10:28 AM
|- - TommyTwoToes   QUOTE (Traul @ Jun 24 2010, 05:28 AM) Tha...   Jun 24 2010, 03:25 PM
|- - SpellBinder   QUOTE (Traul @ Jun 24 2010, 04:28 AM) Tha...   Jun 24 2010, 10:26 PM
|- - FireHand   QUOTE (SpellBinder @ Jun 24 2010, 04:26 P...   Jun 24 2010, 10:47 PM
- - Ol' Scratch   Yeah, lemme count how many times that's ever h...   Jun 24 2010, 03:54 AM
- - Shinobi Killfist   Or instead of getting rid of overcasting go back t...   Jun 24 2010, 06:28 AM
- - Falanin   Note also that the force 8 spell from the OP loses...   Jun 24 2010, 07:20 AM
- - FireHand   Good golly, Miss Molly. Is magic really that much...   Jun 24 2010, 03:59 PM
|- - Whipstitch   QUOTE (FireHand @ Jun 24 2010, 10:59 AM) ...   Jun 24 2010, 04:06 PM
|- - FireHand   QUOTE (Whipstitch @ Jun 24 2010, 10:06 AM...   Jun 24 2010, 04:19 PM
- - FireHand   So, you're saying that a group of experienced ...   Jun 24 2010, 04:15 PM
|- - Whipstitch   QUOTE (FireHand @ Jun 24 2010, 11:15 AM) ...   Jun 24 2010, 04:29 PM
|- - Cheops   QUOTE (FireHand @ Jun 24 2010, 05:15 PM) ...   Jun 24 2010, 04:41 PM
- - Warlordtheft   Spells are only so strong as the side using them. ...   Jun 24 2010, 04:32 PM
|- - BlueMax   QUOTE (Warlordtheft @ Jun 24 2010, 08:32 ...   Jun 24 2010, 06:46 PM
- - Whipstitch   I made a Mystic Adept corporate Spider once who ne...   Jun 24 2010, 04:48 PM
- - Mongoose   Or you could have overcasting do physical AND stun...   Jun 24 2010, 10:57 PM
- - fistandantilus4.0   When SR4 first came out, I played it for a long ti...   Jun 25 2010, 12:59 AM
|- - BlueMax   QUOTE (fistandantilus4.0 @ Jun 24 2010, 05...   Jun 25 2010, 01:01 AM
- - Whipstitch   With the normal drain rules I do tend to cast/summ...   Jun 25 2010, 01:54 AM
- - Lanlaorn   I sincerely hope I never play with any of you ...   Jun 25 2010, 02:56 AM
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