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SkepticInc
post Jul 8 2010, 09:16 PM
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For the Dumpshock play-by-post game I tried to make the most down-and-out, low-class, hated group of sentients in Shadowrun, and a ghoul Ork was what I came up with. Now I'm trying to come up with a more detailed background for him, and I run into a few questions I've got only fuzzy answers for. For starters:

1) Is there a community of ghouls in Seattle, or do they live as they can?

2) Is there an official bounty of ghouls?

3) Where do they get food? At 5% body weight per month, a body 11 ghoul has to eat quite a bit, and clone meat gets very expensive, very fast.

4) How many ghouls are there? I imagine there is a strict cap on ghoul population based on supply of metahuman flesh, tied in to the harvestable percentage of deaths per year. But what would that percentage be? 1%? 5%?

5) Would a ghoul running a funeral home with the promise of the bodies not coming back as a shedim be enough to keep the place from getting burned down by concerned citizens?

6) How do you play a ghoul as a character with enough redeeming qualities to not simply be a monster?

Are there any obvious questions I missed?
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- SkepticInc   Kreiger's Syndrome (PC Ghouls)   Jul 8 2010, 09:16 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Dunno about the rest, but I feel like #6 applies t...   Jul 8 2010, 09:21 PM
|- - SkepticInc   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jul 8 2010, 09:21 PM)...   Jul 8 2010, 09:39 PM
|- - Hagga   QUOTE (SkepticInc @ Jul 8 2010, 09:39 PM)...   Jul 9 2010, 02:11 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Hehe, yeah. By the book, it's a simple 30% inc...   Jul 8 2010, 09:43 PM
- - SkepticInc   I think there were weight to body tables in SR2, b...   Jul 8 2010, 09:48 PM
- - Caadium   I have a player that is playing an Ork-Ghoul PC in...   Jul 8 2010, 10:23 PM
- - Deadmannumberone   1) I don't believe there's anything in the...   Jul 8 2010, 10:31 PM
- - The Dragon Girl   Hi there! there is -a lot- of content about th...   Jul 9 2010, 01:35 AM
- - Yerameyahu   QUOTE And twenty-two year old Nottingham schooltea...   Jul 9 2010, 02:40 AM
|- - Kid Chameleon   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jul 8 2010, 09:40 PM)...   Jul 9 2010, 09:26 PM
- - Dahrken   QUOTE (SkepticInc @ Jul 8 2010, 11:16 PM)...   Jul 9 2010, 04:25 AM
- - Udoshi   Street magic has mention of something relevant her...   Jul 9 2010, 04:26 AM
- - Yerameyahu   I'll bet you would. Hehe.   Jul 9 2010, 04:50 AM
- - SkepticInc   QUOTE (Udoshi @ Jul 9 2010, 04:26 AM) Str...   Jul 9 2010, 06:45 AM
|- - Hagga   QUOTE (SkepticInc @ Jul 9 2010, 06:45 AM)...   Jul 9 2010, 11:03 AM
- - Summerstorm   Sources for "Food": 1. Bodyshops. (Ever...   Jul 9 2010, 08:18 AM
|- - Hagga   QUOTE (Summerstorm @ Jul 9 2010, 08:18 AM...   Jul 9 2010, 09:56 PM
|- - Caadium   QUOTE (Hagga @ Jul 9 2010, 01:56 PM) I...   Jul 9 2010, 10:05 PM
- - Udoshi   I'm pretty sure that Seattle 2072 has a short ...   Jul 9 2010, 08:21 AM
- - Yerameyahu   I wouldn't let people avoid the 30% surcharge ...   Jul 9 2010, 10:11 PM
- - MortVent   never underestimate the power of persuasion a ghou...   Jul 9 2010, 10:36 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Haha, but if you don't think *every* runner ca...   Jul 9 2010, 10:41 PM
|- - MortVent   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jul 9 2010, 05:41 PM)...   Jul 9 2010, 11:07 PM
|- - Hagga   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jul 9 2010, 10:41 PM)...   Jul 9 2010, 11:24 PM
- - Caadium   Well sometimes the threat can be used in other way...   Jul 9 2010, 10:57 PM
- - Yerameyahu   That's the threat I meant! Runners are pr...   Jul 10 2010, 12:07 AM
- - hermit   QUOTE 1) Is there a community of ghouls in Seattle...   Jul 10 2010, 10:54 AM
- - Medicineman   The Bounty on Ghouls is 1500 ¥ per Head both in th...   Jul 10 2010, 12:03 PM
|- - Patrick Goodman   QUOTE (Medicineman @ Jul 10 2010, 07:03 A...   Jul 10 2010, 12:54 PM
- - Medicineman   I'm working on that bit, honest to God. a goo...   Jul 10 2010, 01:03 PM
- - HappyDaze   You could try for a group of 'penitent' gh...   Jul 10 2010, 01:18 PM
- - Yerameyahu   hermit, you're no fun. Yes, fine, many runners...   Jul 10 2010, 03:24 PM
|- - hermit   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jul 10 2010, 05:24 PM...   Jul 10 2010, 03:33 PM
- - Yerameyahu   I always play the game ice cold pro, but I underst...   Jul 10 2010, 04:52 PM
- - hermit   Where would it be written in stone that cyberpunk ...   Jul 10 2010, 05:55 PM
- - SkepticInc   QUOTE (Medicineman @ Jul 10 2010, 02:03 P...   Jul 10 2010, 06:17 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Well, Ortho is subdermal, so I don't think it ...   Jul 10 2010, 07:50 PM
- - Nifft   What's the deal with Ghouls & Cybereyes? I...   Jul 10 2010, 08:03 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Yes. Also, why can't they just wear trodes and...   Jul 10 2010, 08:08 PM
|- - Hagga   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jul 10 2010, 08:08 PM...   Jul 11 2010, 12:50 AM
|- - HappyDaze   QUOTE (Hagga @ Jul 10 2010, 07:50 PM) It...   Jul 11 2010, 03:03 AM
|- - Hagga   QUOTE (HappyDaze @ Jul 11 2010, 03:03 AM)...   Jul 11 2010, 04:55 AM
- - hermit   Because the transformation damages their visual co...   Jul 10 2010, 08:30 PM
|- - Nifft   QUOTE (hermit @ Jul 10 2010, 04:30 PM) Be...   Jul 10 2010, 09:11 PM
- - Drace   I remember in 2nd edition there was a section of t...   Jul 10 2010, 08:46 PM
- - SkepticInc   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jul 10 2010, 08:50 PM...   Jul 10 2010, 09:20 PM
|- - Nifft   QUOTE (SkepticInc @ Jul 10 2010, 05:20 PM...   Jul 10 2010, 09:59 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE It doesn't actually. In 4th Ed at least,...   Jul 10 2010, 09:21 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Yup, ghouls have physical and not neurological bli...   Jul 10 2010, 10:40 PM
- - Nifft   Sure, you can wear a motorcycle helmet and gloves ...   Jul 10 2010, 11:11 PM
- - Yerameyahu   *shrug* Specific trumps general. It explicitly say...   Jul 11 2010, 03:53 AM
|- - Nifft   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jul 10 2010, 11:53 PM...   Jul 11 2010, 03:44 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE how common are Awakened checkpoint guards? N...   Jul 11 2010, 03:54 PM
|- - Mordinvan   QUOTE (hermit @ Jul 11 2010, 08:54 AM) No...   Jul 11 2010, 09:28 PM
|- - Nifft   QUOTE (Mordinvan @ Jul 11 2010, 05:28 PM)...   Jul 11 2010, 09:37 PM
|- - Mordinvan   QUOTE (Nifft @ Jul 11 2010, 02:37 PM) How...   Jul 12 2010, 12:54 AM
|- - Deadmannumberone   QUOTE (Mordinvan @ Jul 11 2010, 05:54 PM)...   Jul 12 2010, 01:28 AM
|- - Mordinvan   QUOTE (Deadmannumberone @ Jul 11 2010, 07...   Jul 13 2010, 03:40 AM
- - The Dragon Girl   They do mention getting cosmetic surgery and cyber...   Jul 11 2010, 05:58 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Yeah, Biosculpting, Severe Modification. :/ Anyway...   Jul 11 2010, 06:03 PM
- - Dumori   Just play that -5bp to be a second gen Ghoul your ...   Jul 11 2010, 06:13 PM
- - The Dragon Girl   Speaking of ghouls, this is reminding me I need to...   Jul 11 2010, 06:18 PM
- - SkepticInc   One way to cover up the smell is through a Cybergl...   Jul 11 2010, 07:00 PM
|- - Dumori   QUOTE (SkepticInc @ Jul 11 2010, 08:00 PM...   Jul 12 2010, 12:31 AM
|- - SkepticInc   QUOTE (Dumori @ Jul 12 2010, 01:31 AM) If...   Jul 12 2010, 12:42 AM
|- - Dumori   QUOTE (SkepticInc @ Jul 12 2010, 01:42 AM...   Jul 13 2010, 02:28 AM
- - The Dragon Girl   Thats .. honestly not an easy question to answer. ...   Jul 11 2010, 07:30 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE Only if you have a severely limited imaginat...   Jul 11 2010, 08:55 PM
- - hermit   Watchers. And if you have two mages on the payroll...   Jul 11 2010, 09:42 PM
|- - Nifft   QUOTE (hermit @ Jul 11 2010, 05:42 PM) Wa...   Jul 11 2010, 09:58 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE Then the Watcher spirit wakes up the wagemag...   Jul 11 2010, 10:04 PM
|- - Nifft   QUOTE (hermit @ Jul 11 2010, 06:04 PM) An...   Jul 11 2010, 10:14 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE The thing that you have to take into conside...   Jul 11 2010, 10:23 PM
- - Glyph   If you are trying to make a ghoul whose nature is ...   Jul 11 2010, 10:48 PM
|- - SkepticInc   QUOTE (Glyph @ Jul 11 2010, 11:48 PM) Fin...   Jul 11 2010, 10:51 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Using Severe Biosculpting, anyone can be twins.   Jul 12 2010, 12:37 AM
- - Snow_Fox   We had a player once roll up a ghoul who was a Jah...   Jul 13 2010, 12:19 AM
|- - Caadium   QUOTE (Snow_Fox @ Jul 12 2010, 04:19 PM) ...   Jul 13 2010, 12:21 AM
- - Snow_Fox   He was one of those people going door to door!   Jul 13 2010, 12:47 AM
- - MortVent   telemarketers that are ghouls... talk about bad d...   Jul 13 2010, 02:22 AM
- - Yerameyahu   I wouldn't call them culture.   Jul 13 2010, 02:36 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Well, it depends on what Obvious means, if it...   Jul 13 2010, 03:53 AM
|- - Mordinvan   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jul 12 2010, 09:53 PM...   Jul 13 2010, 04:17 AM
- - Yerameyahu   'Common sense' says that a dual-natured pe...   Jul 13 2010, 04:21 AM
|- - Mordinvan   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jul 12 2010, 10:21 PM...   Jul 13 2010, 04:26 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Certainly there are things you can do, but it...   Jul 13 2010, 12:34 PM
|- - Mordinvan   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jul 13 2010, 05:34 AM...   Jul 13 2010, 12:50 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Ha, you said 'just about anything could sneak ...   Jul 13 2010, 12:56 PM
|- - Mordinvan   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jul 13 2010, 05:56 AM...   Jul 13 2010, 12:58 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Again, unless you take into account the situationa...   Jul 13 2010, 01:13 PM
|- - Mordinvan   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jul 13 2010, 06:13 AM...   Jul 13 2010, 02:39 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Yes, they are. I.e., it barely functions, especial...   Jul 13 2010, 07:47 PM


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