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post Jul 27 2010, 09:25 PM
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I'm a little curious if/how people can run Empathy Software at 5 or 6.

What I'm seeing:
Cybereyes/Glasses: Limited to rating 4. (Goggles can go to 6 but negotiating with goggles on seems so off that I can see the empathy software responding with "Thinks you're a freak").
Commlink operating system: Semi-Limited to rating 4. (It can be modded with a threshold/interval of System Rating x 2 and 6 months. Um... Yeah...)
Optimization: "Only Common Use (p. 226, SR4), Hacking (p. 226, SR4), Autosoft (p. 240, SR4, and p. 112), and Simsense programs (including BTLs and skillsofts) may be equipped with program options." No luck there.

Am I missing something or is empathy software pretty much capped at 4?
(I'm sure I'm missing something. I still haven't figured out how the sample Hacker got his Erika Elite to a System 5.)

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- suoq   Empathy Software > 4   Jul 27 2010, 09:25 PM
- - DireRadiant   You can upgrade a device by purchasing response to...   Jul 27 2010, 09:28 PM
- - Karoline   You can just buy a higher grade system/firewall. ...   Jul 27 2010, 09:32 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Plus, Emotitoys run it.   Jul 27 2010, 09:56 PM
- - Thanee   Or you could just ignore Empathy Software (esp. fr...   Jul 27 2010, 11:01 PM
- - suoq   Thanks. I needed to be looking for "Response...   Jul 28 2010, 12:38 AM
- - Yerameyahu   You were also looking at the rules to code your ow...   Jul 28 2010, 12:41 AM
- - sabs   I think that adding rating to dicepool seems exces...   Jul 28 2010, 01:25 AM
- - Udoshi   To be honest, a far more hilarious GM-side solutio...   Jul 28 2010, 01:45 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Yeah, I don't think anyone is thrilled about +...   Jul 28 2010, 01:48 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jul 27 2010, 07:48 PM...   Jul 28 2010, 03:27 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Ha. +6 is the definition of a big deal. It kinda d...   Jul 28 2010, 03:31 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jul 27 2010, 09:31 PM...   Jul 28 2010, 03:50 AM
- - Yerameyahu   I'm not saying there are no fixes (which is ki...   Jul 28 2010, 03:54 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jul 27 2010, 09:54 PM...   Jul 28 2010, 04:07 AM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jul 27 2010, 08...   Jul 28 2010, 05:22 AM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (Cain @ Jul 28 2010, 07:22 AM) So, ...   Jul 28 2010, 05:58 AM
||- - Cain   QUOTE (Mäx @ Jul 27 2010, 10:58 PM) He do...   Jul 29 2010, 01:40 AM
||- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Cain @ Jul 28 2010, 06:40 PM) That...   Jul 29 2010, 03:41 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Cain @ Jul 27 2010, 10:22 PM) So, ...   Jul 29 2010, 03:33 AM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jul 29 2010, 06...   Jul 29 2010, 05:20 AM
- - Yerameyahu   3000 Nuyen is *incredibly* cheap. You can't ju...   Jul 28 2010, 04:20 AM
|- - Cabral   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jul 27 2010, 11:20 PM...   Jul 28 2010, 04:38 AM
|- - Cabral   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jul 27 2010, 11:20 PM...   Jul 28 2010, 11:47 AM
|- - suoq   QUOTE (Cabral @ Jul 28 2010, 05:47 AM) As...   Jul 28 2010, 12:12 PM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (suoq @ Jul 28 2010, 02:12 PM) The ...   Jul 28 2010, 12:33 PM
- - Yerameyahu   The two are pretty closely linked. People certainl...   Jul 28 2010, 04:50 AM
- - suoq   Just to be clear, taking the eyes from a 4 to a 5 ...   Jul 28 2010, 05:18 AM
|- - Lanlaorn   QUOTE (suoq @ Jul 28 2010, 01:18 AM) Just...   Jul 28 2010, 07:39 AM
|- - Saint Sithney   QUOTE (suoq @ Jul 27 2010, 10:18 PM) Just...   Jul 28 2010, 10:01 AM
|- - suoq   QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Jul 28 2010, 04:01...   Jul 28 2010, 12:34 PM
- - Irion   Sorry, but emotoys and the software suck, and yes ...   Jul 28 2010, 06:13 AM
- - Badmoodguy88   QUOTE So you get to the point, were everyone has h...   Jul 28 2010, 10:38 AM
- - Irion   @Badmoodguy88 If you leave glitches out it is. It...   Jul 28 2010, 10:55 AM
- - LurkerOutThere   Where are you guys getting this belief that cybere...   Jul 28 2010, 12:27 PM
|- - suoq   QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Jul 28 2010, 06:2...   Jul 28 2010, 12:41 PM
|- - LurkerOutThere   QUOTE (suoq @ Jul 28 2010, 06:41 AM) Agai...   Jul 28 2010, 01:02 PM
- - Mäx   System is ugraded by buying a better system, ratin...   Jul 28 2010, 12:38 PM
|- - suoq   QUOTE (Mäx @ Jul 28 2010, 06:38 AM) Syste...   Jul 28 2010, 12:46 PM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (suoq @ Jul 28 2010, 02:46 PM) Than...   Jul 28 2010, 12:49 PM
|- - suoq   QUOTE (Mäx @ Jul 28 2010, 06:49 AM) No yo...   Jul 28 2010, 12:54 PM
|- - MortVent   QUOTE (suoq @ Jul 28 2010, 07:54 AM) That...   Jul 28 2010, 01:00 PM
- - suoq   I'm slightly confused. Are people who want to ...   Jul 28 2010, 01:17 PM
- - LurkerOutThere   But not enough to handle the better quality of sof...   Jul 28 2010, 01:19 PM
- - Cabral   As an aside, what's the device rating of Alpha...   Jul 28 2010, 01:29 PM
|- - suoq   QUOTE (Cabral @ Jul 28 2010, 08:29 AM) As...   Jul 28 2010, 01:35 PM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (suoq @ Jul 28 2010, 03:35 PM) Assu...   Jul 28 2010, 02:03 PM
|- - suoq   QUOTE (Mäx @ Jul 28 2010, 09:03 AM) Yes i...   Jul 28 2010, 03:21 PM
- - Yerameyahu   AFAIK, sensor software *doesn't* run on sensor...   Jul 28 2010, 03:40 PM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jul 28 2010, 06:40 PM...   Jul 28 2010, 09:39 PM
- - Thanee   The best fix for emotitoys is to have them make fu...   Jul 28 2010, 07:11 PM
|- - suoq   QUOTE (Thanee @ Jul 28 2010, 01:11 PM) So...   Jul 28 2010, 07:44 PM
||- - Thanee   QUOTE (suoq @ Jul 28 2010, 09:44 PM) That...   Jul 29 2010, 01:59 PM
|- - Cabral   QUOTE (Thanee @ Jul 28 2010, 02:11 PM) Th...   Jul 29 2010, 12:21 AM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (Cabral @ Jul 28 2010, 07:21 PM) On...   Jul 29 2010, 12:24 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Right, that's the 'roll DP of rating, add ...   Jul 28 2010, 07:14 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Actually, there's just as much controversy abo...   Jul 28 2010, 07:49 PM
- - Doc Chase   Frankly I'd have the medkit give a bonus equal...   Jul 28 2010, 07:58 PM
- - suoq   Amanda Feilding: Performed trepanning on herself (...   Jul 28 2010, 08:24 PM
- - Doc Chase   Wow. You're equating someone cutting off thei...   Jul 28 2010, 08:26 PM
|- - suoq   QUOTE (Doc Chase @ Jul 28 2010, 02:26 PM)...   Jul 28 2010, 08:41 PM
- - Karoline   But did they manage those things because they had ...   Jul 28 2010, 08:35 PM
|- - suoq   QUOTE (Karoline @ Jul 28 2010, 02:35 PM) ...   Jul 28 2010, 08:47 PM
|- - Doc Chase   QUOTE (suoq @ Jul 28 2010, 09:47 PM) Actu...   Jul 28 2010, 08:53 PM
- - Doc Chase   You're not going to do it yourself - you'r...   Jul 28 2010, 08:45 PM
- - Yerameyahu   And, if the Test requires a toolkit, and you use a...   Jul 28 2010, 08:55 PM
|- - suoq   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jul 28 2010, 02:55 PM...   Jul 28 2010, 09:09 PM
- - Karoline   Good thing I have incompetent (mechanics group). ...   Jul 28 2010, 08:56 PM
- - suoq   QUOTE (Doc Chase @ Jul 28 2010, 02:53 PM)...   Jul 28 2010, 09:02 PM
|- - Doc Chase   QUOTE (suoq @ Jul 28 2010, 10:02 PM) Main...   Jul 28 2010, 09:14 PM
|- - suoq   QUOTE (Doc Chase @ Jul 28 2010, 03:14 PM)...   Jul 28 2010, 09:18 PM
|- - Doc Chase   QUOTE (suoq @ Jul 28 2010, 10:18 PM) Beca...   Jul 28 2010, 09:29 PM
|- - suoq   QUOTE (Doc Chase @ Jul 28 2010, 03:29 PM)...   Jul 28 2010, 09:45 PM
||- - Doc Chase   QUOTE (suoq @ Jul 28 2010, 10:45 PM) I mi...   Jul 28 2010, 09:46 PM
||- - suoq   QUOTE (Doc Chase @ Jul 28 2010, 03:46 PM)...   Jul 28 2010, 09:59 PM
||- - KarmaInferno   QUOTE (suoq @ Jul 28 2010, 04:59 PM) Tech...   Jul 28 2010, 11:24 PM
||- - Doc Chase   QUOTE (suoq @ Jul 28 2010, 09:59 PM) Spel...   Jul 28 2010, 11:28 PM
|- - KarmaInferno   QUOTE (Doc Chase @ Jul 28 2010, 04:29 PM)...   Jul 28 2010, 11:00 PM
- - sabs   But a Medical drone with Medical Autosoft, and a p...   Jul 28 2010, 11:07 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Since you mention it, Max, I still don't think...   Jul 29 2010, 01:29 AM
- - Yerameyahu   That's totally true; however, that's an in...   Jul 29 2010, 01:42 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Emotitoys *are* Empathy Software. Literally, embod...   Jul 29 2010, 03:38 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jul 28 2010, 08:38 PM...   Jul 29 2010, 03:48 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Yes, relatively cost-free. As I already explained...   Jul 29 2010, 04:02 AM
- - Cain   QUOTE I HAVE NOT CHANGED THE RULES FOR EMPATHY SOF...   Jul 29 2010, 06:21 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Cain @ Jul 29 2010, 12:21 AM) Exce...   Jul 30 2010, 01:33 AM
- - LurkerOutThere   Cain your being needlessly obtuse, the Emotoys exi...   Jul 29 2010, 07:48 AM
- - Yerameyahu   No, they don't. They're as closely related...   Jul 29 2010, 01:25 PM
- - Karoline   Personally it is less an issue of +6 dice is reall...   Jul 29 2010, 02:05 PM
- - sabs   I'd be okay with it if Empathy Software only w...   Jul 29 2010, 02:05 PM
- - suoq   So.... what's the firewall/defenses on an Emot...   Jul 29 2010, 02:45 PM
- - sabs   Firewall and System do not count as programs again...   Jul 29 2010, 02:47 PM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (sabs @ Jul 29 2010, 09:47 AM) Fire...   Jul 29 2010, 03:11 PM
|- - suoq   QUOTE (Karoline @ Jul 29 2010, 10:11 AM) ...   Jul 29 2010, 03:41 PM
- - Karoline   Yeah, its a shame that 'limited ability' s...   Jul 29 2010, 03:52 PM
- - Irion   Why not go the simple way. Let it do exactly what ...   Jul 29 2010, 09:19 PM
- - tagz   The more I read it the more I agree with the idea ...   Jul 29 2010, 09:56 PM
- - Yerameyahu   If it's not, it should be. I'm not *too* ...   Jul 29 2010, 10:00 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Um, removing/controlling access is undoubtedly a h...   Jul 30 2010, 02:40 AM
- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jul 29 2010, 08:40 PM...   Jul 30 2010, 02:46 AM
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