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post Aug 4 2010, 11:14 AM
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A lot of people are unhappy with how Street Samurai end up with a perceived short end of the stick when compared to Adepts and are thought to be especially easy prey for Magicians. Of course, there are many ways to defend against magic, chief among them having a Magician of your own but also possibly looking at Qualities that make it easier to resist magic.

Going by the flavor text, cyberware appears as dead spots on a person's aura and this often seems to disturb mages as mentioned in Ghost Cartels in particular a number of times. A person is made more an object over time rather than a person.

What I'm getting at is if a Street Sammy is more toaster than person, could not a GM rule that object resistance or spell dice modifiers come into play in addition to the basic Will/Body roll? It seems like an interesting option.

Thoughts?
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- Inpu   A thought on cyberware   Aug 4 2010, 11:14 AM
- - Lansdren   QUOTE (Inpu @ Aug 4 2010, 12:14 PM) A lot...   Aug 4 2010, 11:19 AM
|- - Inpu   QUOTE (Lansdren @ Aug 4 2010, 01:19 PM) I...   Aug 4 2010, 11:21 AM
- - Ascalaphus   Quick! Quick! Add some more metal rods to ...   Aug 4 2010, 11:31 AM
|- - Inpu   QUOTE (Ascalaphus @ Aug 4 2010, 01:31 PM)...   Aug 4 2010, 11:48 AM
- - Simon Kerimov   There is the Arcane Arrester metagenic trait that ...   Aug 4 2010, 11:35 AM
|- - Mordinvan   QUOTE (Simon Kerimov @ Aug 4 2010, 04:35 ...   Aug 24 2010, 10:53 AM
- - Doc Byte   QUOTE (Inpu @ Aug 4 2010, 01:14 PM) A lot...   Aug 4 2010, 01:15 PM
|- - Inpu   QUOTE (Doc Byte @ Aug 4 2010, 03:15 PM) I...   Aug 4 2010, 01:19 PM
|- - Doc Byte   QUOTE (Inpu @ Aug 4 2010, 03:19 PM) I per...   Aug 4 2010, 01:31 PM
|- - Inpu   QUOTE (Doc Byte @ Aug 4 2010, 03:31 PM) T...   Aug 4 2010, 01:32 PM
- - JurneeJakes   Whereas Adepts and Sammies fill the same roles (ty...   Aug 4 2010, 01:37 PM
|- - Doc Byte   QUOTE (JurneeJakes @ Aug 4 2010, 03:37 PM...   Aug 4 2010, 01:57 PM
|- - Johnny B. Good   QUOTE (JurneeJakes @ Aug 4 2010, 02:37 PM...   Aug 4 2010, 02:09 PM
||- - Laodicea   QUOTE (Johnny B. Good @ Aug 4 2010, 08:09...   Aug 4 2010, 02:25 PM
||- - Johnny B. Good   QUOTE (Laodicea @ Aug 4 2010, 03:25 PM) N...   Aug 4 2010, 02:34 PM
||- - Dakka Dakka   QUOTE (Johnny B. Good @ Aug 4 2010, 04:34...   Aug 4 2010, 03:30 PM
|- - Kruger   QUOTE (JurneeJakes @ Aug 4 2010, 05:37 AM...   Aug 4 2010, 04:57 PM
- - Irion   It is worth considering for direct combat spells, ...   Aug 4 2010, 01:49 PM
- - Inpu   Yes, that is why this is from a flavor perspective...   Aug 4 2010, 02:06 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Johnny B. Good, are there actually rules for ...   Aug 4 2010, 02:28 PM
|- - Johnny B. Good   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Aug 4 2010, 03:28 PM)...   Aug 4 2010, 02:40 PM
- - Yerameyahu   That's what I thought. You don't have to ...   Aug 4 2010, 02:51 PM
|- - Johnny B. Good   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Aug 4 2010, 03:51 PM)...   Aug 4 2010, 02:55 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Well, you'd have to GM-approve having them. Th...   Aug 4 2010, 03:00 PM
- - Ascalaphus   Sure, one failed initiative roll and that mage cou...   Aug 4 2010, 05:38 PM
|- - Johnny B. Good   QUOTE (Ascalaphus @ Aug 4 2010, 06:38 PM)...   Aug 4 2010, 05:44 PM
- - Yerameyahu   I think that's the point.   Aug 4 2010, 05:46 PM
- - Inpu   Mind that when I suggested this, I was specificall...   Aug 4 2010, 05:53 PM
|- - Johnny B. Good   QUOTE (Inpu @ Aug 4 2010, 05:53 PM) Mind ...   Aug 4 2010, 05:57 PM
|- - KCKitsune   QUOTE (Inpu @ Aug 4 2010, 01:53 PM) Mind ...   Aug 6 2010, 08:07 AM
- - Inpu   Well, the incentive is already there. Nothing chan...   Aug 4 2010, 06:00 PM
- - Johnny B. Good   Yes, but this means that in addition to being craz...   Aug 4 2010, 06:05 PM
- - sabs   All you have to do is double the essence loss to m...   Aug 4 2010, 06:11 PM
- - Inpu   Or you can rule that healing does still cause some...   Aug 4 2010, 06:17 PM
- - Saint Sithney   The problem here is that the cyber isn't the s...   Aug 6 2010, 01:47 AM
- - Badmoodguy88   Mages have a trade off of being able to do more da...   Aug 6 2010, 02:16 AM
|- - Smokeskin   QUOTE (Badmoodguy88 @ Aug 6 2010, 04:16 A...   Aug 6 2010, 09:27 AM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (Smokeskin @ Aug 6 2010, 11:27 AM) ...   Aug 6 2010, 10:15 AM
- - Inpu   Kind of depends how you view it, really: the physi...   Aug 6 2010, 07:42 AM
|- - Lansdren   QUOTE (Inpu @ Aug 6 2010, 08:42 AM) Kind ...   Aug 6 2010, 07:45 AM
|- - Inpu   QUOTE (Lansdren @ Aug 6 2010, 09:45 AM) T...   Aug 6 2010, 07:51 AM
- - Irion   QUOTE Honestly, heal might technically work on obj...   Aug 6 2010, 08:05 AM
- - Ascalaphus   Well, if cyborgization makes you more an object th...   Aug 6 2010, 08:27 AM
|- - Inpu   QUOTE (Ascalaphus @ Aug 6 2010, 10:27 AM)...   Aug 6 2010, 08:30 AM
- - Irion   @Smokeskin QUOTE The sample corpsec guard in SR4 w...   Aug 6 2010, 09:51 AM
- - Wasabi   Fine print: "Although Reaction and Combat Sen...   Aug 6 2010, 10:17 AM
- - Dakka Dakka   Don't forget that cover and visibility also af...   Aug 6 2010, 10:22 AM
|- - Smokeskin   QUOTE (Dakka Dakka @ Aug 6 2010, 12:22 PM...   Aug 6 2010, 11:41 AM
|- - Ascalaphus   QUOTE (Smokeskin @ Aug 6 2010, 01:41 PM) ...   Aug 6 2010, 11:51 AM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (Ascalaphus @ Aug 6 2010, 01:51 PM)...   Aug 6 2010, 11:59 AM
|- - Smokeskin   QUOTE (Mäx @ Aug 6 2010, 01:59 PM) But th...   Aug 6 2010, 12:08 PM
||- - Mäx   QUOTE (Smokeskin @ Aug 6 2010, 02:08 PM) ...   Aug 6 2010, 12:12 PM
||- - Smokeskin   QUOTE (Mäx @ Aug 6 2010, 02:12 PM) Why, i...   Aug 6 2010, 12:50 PM
||- - Mäx   QUOTE (Smokeskin @ Aug 6 2010, 02:50 PM) ...   Aug 6 2010, 01:04 PM
||- - Dakka Dakka   QUOTE (Mäx @ Aug 6 2010, 03:04 PM) My exs...   Aug 6 2010, 01:05 PM
||- - Mäx   QUOTE (Dakka Dakka @ Aug 6 2010, 03:05 PM...   Aug 6 2010, 01:07 PM
||- - Johnny B. Good   QUOTE (Mäx @ Aug 6 2010, 02:07 PM) Magic ...   Aug 6 2010, 02:36 PM
|- - Smokeskin   double   Aug 6 2010, 12:08 PM
- - Ascalaphus   Hmm. So how do you calculate cover/visibility for ...   Aug 6 2010, 10:36 AM
- - Dakka Dakka   Just add them to the resistance dice. I always fou...   Aug 6 2010, 10:38 AM
|- - Ascalaphus   QUOTE (Dakka Dakka @ Aug 6 2010, 12:38 PM...   Aug 6 2010, 10:45 AM
- - Inpu   That, and the multiple spell option means they can...   Aug 6 2010, 11:59 AM
|- - Ascalaphus   QUOTE (Inpu @ Aug 6 2010, 01:59 PM) Leide...   Aug 6 2010, 12:15 PM
- - Inpu   In Zeist currently, next to Utrecht. Moved from Am...   Aug 6 2010, 12:19 PM
- - Mäx   QUOTE (Johnny B. Good @ Aug 6 2010, 04:36...   Aug 6 2010, 02:45 PM
- - Saint Hallow   I don't see why more samurais don't take m...   Aug 7 2010, 04:06 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Because they're already Fomori Ghouls SURGEd f...   Aug 7 2010, 04:15 PM
- - Glyph   From the FAQ: QUOTE How do you split a dice pool,...   Aug 7 2010, 08:37 PM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (Glyph @ Aug 7 2010, 10:37 PM) From...   Aug 7 2010, 11:47 PM
||- - Saint Sithney   QUOTE (Mäx @ Aug 7 2010, 04:47 PM) That m...   Aug 8 2010, 02:07 AM
||- - Dakka Dakka   QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Aug 8 2010, 04:07 ...   Aug 8 2010, 09:31 AM
|- - Shinobi Killfist   QUOTE (Glyph @ Aug 7 2010, 03:37 PM) From...   Aug 8 2010, 09:05 PM
- - Yerameyahu   What's magical? Some are obvious (Arcane Arres...   Aug 7 2010, 08:47 PM
- - Traul   You emphasized the wrong part, Glyph: QUOTE Non-ma...   Aug 7 2010, 09:00 PM
- - Glyph   That part means that even the non-magical qualitie...   Aug 7 2010, 10:01 PM
- - Irion   Actually, it does not. It is nowhere stated how yo...   Aug 8 2010, 09:42 AM
- - Glyph   Yeah, in that instance I didn't see anything b...   Aug 8 2010, 06:37 PM
- - Dakka Dakka   How you add the modifiers with multi-casting is un...   Aug 8 2010, 10:50 PM
- - Glyph   I always took the term modifiers to apply to thing...   Aug 8 2010, 11:49 PM
- - Yerameyahu   It helps to limit overpower and mod stacking, cert...   Aug 8 2010, 11:54 PM
- - Sheala   sorry for resurecting old thread, but anyway... t...   Aug 23 2010, 06:51 PM
|- - Shinobi Killfist   QUOTE (Sheala @ Aug 23 2010, 02:51 PM) so...   Aug 23 2010, 09:06 PM
- - Yerameyahu   I think you mean 'an'. Mwa ha. Why doesn...   Aug 23 2010, 09:11 PM
|- - Sheala   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Aug 23 2010, 09:11 PM...   Aug 23 2010, 09:18 PM
|- - Shinobi Killfist   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Aug 23 2010, 05:11 PM...   Aug 23 2010, 09:19 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Ooh, Heck Spirits sound powerful. I summon 3!   Aug 23 2010, 11:36 PM
- - Shinobi Killfist   Yeesh, Bind 3, bind 3. You can only have one summ...   Aug 24 2010, 01:13 AM


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