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PoliteMan
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I'm playing in a SR3 campaign and we just came across a decent windfall, allowing my Shadowrunner to legally immigrate in the UCAS (through some favors) and get a SIN. One of the first things I got was a lawyer.

Technically he's on retainer but for a Shadowrunner with a SIN it seems like a great contact to have. I'm surprised I haven't heard more about it. After all, shadowrunners make a living slipping between the cracks in a heavily balkanized, jumping from one legal zone to another. I can't imagine lawyers haven't taken advantage of it and if a lawyer can keep me out of trouble with the Star why wouldn't I hire one? After most modern-day criminals have excellent legal representation.

So I have a few questions:

1st, how do you handle payment. So far I'm talking with the GM and I thinking of something like a DocWagon contract. You pay an annual fee to have a lawyer on call, with extra payment if it goes to trial and more service if you pay a larger annual fee.

2nd, how does the law work with extra-territoriality. For example, lets say my character make a run on Renraku, get off their territory but get caught by the Star on UCAS ground. Is evidence from Renraku legally admissible in a UCAS court?

3rd, how does the law work in megacorp territory? There have to be laws in order for any territory that operate efficiently (the law being whatever the boss wants works well occasionally but over the long-term creates so much chaos and inefficiency it can't be effective) and UCAS citizens have to have some rights on megacorp property (otherwise no one would go there to BUY things).

From a slightly more metagame perspective, the Shadowrun world is a dystopia where the "have-nots" are screwed and the "haves" are virtually untouchable. What happens when a shadowrunner starts to get enough money/influence/contacts to fall onto the "have" side rather than the "have-nots"?

(For the record, my character has spent time and money building up the kind of contacts and resources to make me appear as a small, successful businessman. He spent $100,000 on a bar which he owns and operates, lives in a nice neighborhood, wears expensive clothes, drives a nice car, knows respectable people, etc.

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- PoliteMan   Lawyers and Legal Issues   Aug 4 2010, 03:25 PM
- - CanRay   1: Depends on how you're dealing with the Law...   Aug 4 2010, 03:37 PM
- - nezumi   1 - That's how I understand it working, so see...   Aug 4 2010, 03:38 PM
- - Ascalaphus   1: Seems reasonable. 2: Megacorps (AA and AAA) ar...   Aug 4 2010, 03:49 PM
|- - CanRay   QUOTE (Ascalaphus @ Aug 4 2010, 10:49 AM)...   Aug 4 2010, 03:52 PM
|- - Dahrken   QUOTE (CanRay @ Aug 4 2010, 05:52 PM) Nic...   Aug 4 2010, 04:41 PM
||- - CanRay   QUOTE (Dahrken @ Aug 4 2010, 11:41 AM) Ye...   Aug 4 2010, 06:46 PM
||- - czarcasm   QUOTE (Dahrken @ Aug 4 2010, 11:41 AM) Ye...   Aug 4 2010, 07:01 PM
||- - Doc Chase   QUOTE (czarcasm @ Aug 4 2010, 07:01 PM) T...   Aug 4 2010, 07:16 PM
|- - darthmord   QUOTE (CanRay @ Aug 4 2010, 10:52 AM) Nic...   Aug 4 2010, 04:46 PM
- - Doc Chase   I would think that since the Corporate Court grant...   Aug 4 2010, 03:53 PM
- - Mooncrow   Today, while a lawyer has to be a member of the ba...   Aug 4 2010, 04:32 PM
|- - Doc Chase   QUOTE (Mooncrow @ Aug 4 2010, 05:32 PM) I...   Aug 4 2010, 04:47 PM
||- - Mooncrow   QUOTE (Doc Chase @ Aug 4 2010, 11:47 AM) ...   Aug 4 2010, 05:06 PM
||- - CanRay   QUOTE (Mooncrow @ Aug 4 2010, 12:06 PM) S...   Aug 9 2010, 07:16 PM
||- - Mooncrow   QUOTE (CanRay @ Aug 9 2010, 02:16 PM) Oh ...   Aug 9 2010, 08:17 PM
|- - Mordinvan   QUOTE (Mooncrow @ Aug 4 2010, 09:32 AM) T...   Aug 5 2010, 05:43 AM
- - sabs   Corporate Court on ZO? I would imagine they have h...   Aug 4 2010, 04:55 PM
- - Smokeskin   QUOTE (PoliteMan @ Aug 4 2010, 05:25 PM) ...   Aug 4 2010, 05:36 PM
|- - Mooncrow   QUOTE (Smokeskin @ Aug 4 2010, 12:36 PM) ...   Aug 4 2010, 05:42 PM
|- - kzt   QUOTE (Smokeskin @ Aug 4 2010, 10:36 AM) ...   Aug 5 2010, 03:32 AM
|- - Smokeskin   QUOTE (kzt @ Aug 5 2010, 05:32 AM) No, pa...   Aug 5 2010, 05:31 AM
|- - kzt   QUOTE (Smokeskin @ Aug 4 2010, 10:31 PM) ...   Aug 5 2010, 06:56 AM
|- - Smokeskin   QUOTE (kzt @ Aug 5 2010, 08:56 AM) We alw...   Aug 5 2010, 07:19 AM
- - Ascalaphus   QUOTE (CanRay @ Aug 4 2010, 05:52 PM) Nic...   Aug 4 2010, 05:41 PM
|- - Doc Chase   QUOTE (Ascalaphus @ Aug 4 2010, 05:41 PM)...   Aug 4 2010, 06:03 PM
- - sabs   Usually the Retainer is above and beyond any speci...   Aug 4 2010, 05:59 PM
- - Voran   I've preferred a Fixer to a Lawyer. A fixer m...   Aug 4 2010, 06:38 PM
- - sabs   Any death that is the result of committing a felon...   Aug 4 2010, 07:09 PM
- - Mooncrow   Cops also have a pretty specific list of "acc...   Aug 4 2010, 07:24 PM
- - Ascalaphus   QUOTE (Doc Chase @ Aug 4 2010, 08:03 PM) ...   Aug 4 2010, 08:04 PM
- - Doc Chase   Ooh, that's true. I hadn't considered tha...   Aug 4 2010, 08:11 PM
- - Ascalaphus   I suppose the Corporate Court might have its own b...   Aug 5 2010, 12:05 AM
- - PoliteMan   1st, on lawyers, bar exams, and regional laws. I f...   Aug 5 2010, 02:21 AM
|- - CanRay   QUOTE (PoliteMan @ Aug 4 2010, 09:21 PM) ...   Aug 5 2010, 02:25 AM
|- - Mooncrow   QUOTE (PoliteMan @ Aug 4 2010, 10:21 PM) ...   Aug 5 2010, 02:50 AM
|- - Warlordtheft   QUOTE (Mooncrow @ Aug 4 2010, 09:50 PM) E...   Aug 5 2010, 03:17 PM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (Mooncrow @ Aug 5 2010, 04:50 AM) E...   Aug 10 2010, 10:33 AM
- - Ascalaphus   QUOTE (PoliteMan @ Aug 5 2010, 04:21 AM) ...   Aug 5 2010, 08:14 AM
- - PoliteMan   QUOTE I went and did some digging in Vice, and acc...   Aug 5 2010, 12:23 PM
|- - Ascalaphus   QUOTE (PoliteMan @ Aug 5 2010, 02:23 PM) ...   Aug 5 2010, 01:03 PM
|- - Smokeskin   QUOTE (Ascalaphus @ Aug 5 2010, 03:03 PM)...   Aug 5 2010, 01:53 PM
|- - Dahrken   QUOTE (Ascalaphus @ Aug 5 2010, 03:03 PM)...   Aug 5 2010, 03:29 PM
- - sabs   There's also a minimum square footage rule.   Aug 5 2010, 03:23 PM
|- - Smokeskin   QUOTE (sabs @ Aug 5 2010, 05:23 PM) There...   Aug 5 2010, 03:30 PM
- - sabs   It's mentioned in one of the books. Though I ...   Aug 5 2010, 03:37 PM
- - tagz   One thing I want to point out is that the idea tha...   Aug 5 2010, 08:02 PM
- - Voran   Home turf advantage will probably always apply. A...   Aug 5 2010, 08:59 PM
- - martindv   I'll just chime in here with some thoughts fro...   Aug 9 2010, 05:41 PM
- - martindv   QUOTE (tagz @ Aug 5 2010, 04:02 PM) A 206...   Aug 9 2010, 06:52 PM
- - Mooncrow   Bah, I could have sworn a stuck a "for the sa...   Aug 9 2010, 07:07 PM
- - CanRay   This also means that AAA-Corporation's subsidi...   Aug 10 2010, 01:29 PM
|- - Doc Chase   QUOTE (CanRay @ Aug 10 2010, 02:29 PM) Th...   Aug 10 2010, 01:50 PM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (Doc Chase @ Aug 10 2010, 03:50 PM)...   Aug 10 2010, 02:56 PM
- - CanRay   Exactly. The only AZT logos in a StufferShack are...   Aug 10 2010, 03:23 PM


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