Aug 20 2010, 01:39 PM
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I realize that this post could cause flame wars. That is not my intention, and I'm sorry if it does. (And if it's too inflamatory, I won't protest if the moderators choose to instantly close it, dock me Karma, and/or ban me for a {long} while). I will be using quotes to denote Federally non recognised tribes, without intentional prejudice to the merits of their claim.
Googling the string "fake tribes" at random came up with mentions of several groups claming not just descent from pre-Columbian Native American tribes, but actual continuity of tradition that is severely disputed. In some cases, like the "Washitaws," the "Erie Moundbuilders," the Delorme "Bands" of the Little Shell Pembina Ojibwas, and something called the "Wampanoag Nation" of Utah(!), and possibly the Federally unrecognized bands of "Shawnee" in Ohio and Indiana seem to be obvious frauds created for financial gain of their members and/or leadership. Others, like the Tennessee "Cherokee" groups seem to posess genuine (at least partial) descent, but their continuity as tribal groups is in severe question. Things seem to be even muddier with the likes of the "Lumbee" of North Carolina and the "Lenape" of New Jersey, Delaware, and Pennsylvania who have been recognised as Indian groups by Federally recognised tribes but whose Federal or even state recognition is in limbo. Of course we also have things in the Shadowrun continuity like the "Re-Education Centers" [cough]Death Camps of Kansas and Texas, and after the NAN were formed, "Pinkskin" groups like the Salt Lake City, Las Vegas, and Children of God enclaves in the PPC, as well as metatype "tribes" like the Sisinreach and Cascade Ork. By all means, discuss. Or, if there's already a still open thread in this forum, please link to it. |
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Kalvan NAN Tribal Contraversy Aug 20 2010, 01:39 PM
sabs I suspect that the NAN uses Shamanistic magic to a... Aug 20 2010, 01:47 PM
Voran Yeah, the ability of the NAN to take over such an ... Aug 20 2010, 01:50 PM
CanRay From my understanding, if you could prove you had ... Aug 20 2010, 02:23 PM
MK Ultra SoNA and the older NAN-Books provide some informat... Aug 20 2010, 02:30 PM
CanRay Actually, another thing I think I remembered was s... Aug 20 2010, 02:44 PM
Doc Chase QUOTE (CanRay @ Aug 20 2010, 02:44 PM) Ac... Aug 20 2010, 02:48 PM
Kalvan QUOTE (Doc Chase @ Aug 20 2010, 09:48 AM)... Aug 20 2010, 02:54 PM

Doc Chase QUOTE (Kalvan @ Aug 20 2010, 03:54 PM) Ex... Aug 20 2010, 02:56 PM
Saint Sithney QUOTE (Doc Chase @ Aug 20 2010, 06:48 AM)... Aug 21 2010, 08:25 AM
LurkerOutThere To the OP: Could you restate your question or conc... Aug 20 2010, 03:00 PM
suoq Some outside of Canon options:
1) It's just a ... Aug 20 2010, 03:42 PM
CanadianWolverine If I understand the OP correctly, I think the pote... Aug 20 2010, 04:21 PM
LurkerOutThere Or it could be *GASP* that the powers that be in t... Aug 20 2010, 04:56 PM
TBRMInsanity QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Aug 20 2010, 10:5... Aug 20 2010, 05:03 PM
CanadianWolverine QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Aug 20 2010, 09:5... Aug 20 2010, 10:18 PM
Voran QUOTE (CanadianWolverine @ Aug 20 2010, 06... Aug 21 2010, 12:18 AM
KCKitsune QUOTE (Voran @ Aug 20 2010, 07:18 PM) And... Aug 21 2010, 09:43 AM
Mooncrow QUOTE (KCKitsune @ Aug 21 2010, 04:43 AM)... Aug 21 2010, 09:49 AM
KCKitsune QUOTE (Mooncrow @ Aug 21 2010, 04:49 AM) ... Aug 21 2010, 02:00 PM
Mooncrow QUOTE (KCKitsune @ Aug 21 2010, 10:00 AM)... Aug 21 2010, 02:22 PM
Megu I mean, in my games I've usually tried to pain... Aug 20 2010, 05:33 PM
TBRMInsanity QUOTE (Megu @ Aug 20 2010, 11:33 AM) I me... Aug 20 2010, 06:59 PM
Mooncrow QUOTE (Megu @ Aug 20 2010, 12:33 PM) I me... Aug 20 2010, 07:12 PM
Megu QUOTE (Mooncrow @ Aug 20 2010, 01:12 PM) ... Aug 20 2010, 07:26 PM
Mooncrow QUOTE (Megu @ Aug 20 2010, 02:26 PM) Yeah... Aug 20 2010, 07:41 PM
Inpu This isn't true for all tribes, but Muscogee a... Aug 20 2010, 07:11 PM
The Grue Master Another thing I throw into the mix is that Hispani... Aug 20 2010, 09:28 PM
Tzeentch For various reasons, mostly dealing with cultural ... Aug 20 2010, 10:02 PM
Mooncrow QUOTE (Tzeentch @ Aug 20 2010, 05:02 PM) ... Aug 20 2010, 10:04 PM
Inpu QUOTE (Tzeentch @ Aug 21 2010, 12:02 AM) ... Aug 21 2010, 07:08 AM
Voran QUOTE (Inpu @ Aug 21 2010, 02:08 AM) ... Aug 21 2010, 09:08 AM
Nath QUOTE (Inpu @ Aug 21 2010, 09:08 AM) Does... Aug 21 2010, 09:14 AM
suoq QUOTE (Inpu @ Aug 21 2010, 01:08 AM) That... Aug 21 2010, 02:19 PM

Megu QUOTE (suoq @ Aug 21 2010, 08:19 AM) The ... Aug 21 2010, 06:23 PM
Tzeentch QUOTE (Inpu @ Aug 21 2010, 08:08 AM) The ... Aug 21 2010, 10:07 PM
Sengir The whole thing boils down to how you define a peo... Aug 21 2010, 10:51 AM
Voran QUOTE (Sengir @ Aug 21 2010, 05:51 AM) Th... Aug 21 2010, 11:32 AM
CanRay Don't forget that Corporations that have armie... Aug 21 2010, 02:54 PM
TBRMInsanity QUOTE (CanRay @ Aug 21 2010, 08:54 AM) Do... Aug 21 2010, 04:41 PM
CanRay QUOTE (TBRMInsanity @ Aug 21 2010, 11:41 ... Aug 21 2010, 05:52 PM
pbangarth Assimilation of people from outside the group had ... Aug 21 2010, 06:16 PM
Inpu And then there is the Trail of Tears and long memo... Aug 21 2010, 06:26 PM![]() ![]() |
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