 Mundanes vs. Spirits, Killing spooks without SnS |
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I want to ban SnS in my games, but it seems to be the go-to method for spirit killing when your mage isn't available to do so. What other ways would you suggest mundanes kill spirits? I'm looking for house rules as well as RAW techniques.
I use the following houserule: ItNW armor is equal to 1.5 * spirit Force (not double as RAW), rounded down, and gives auto-hits as well as adding to any other sources of armor (replacing the normal "ping ping SPLAT" rule, but only for spirits and other creatures with ItNW). Maybe a weakness for every spirit type? I can see going after fire spirits with water cannons; what about using frost to kill plants? |
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Tyro Mundanes vs. Spirits Sep 14 2010, 03:40 AM
Neurosis QUOTE (Tyro @ Sep 13 2010, 11:40 PM) I wa... Sep 14 2010, 05:20 AM
Tyro QUOTE (Neurosis @ Sep 13 2010, 10:20 PM) ... Sep 14 2010, 05:23 AM Megu If we're houseruling things anyways, I still t... Sep 14 2010, 05:29 AM Tyro QUOTE (Megu @ Sep 13 2010, 10:29 PM) If w... Sep 14 2010, 05:31 AM Megu QUOTE (Tyro @ Sep 13 2010, 11:31 PM) I ag... Sep 14 2010, 03:15 PM Summerstorm Hm... APDS is good. Availibility is no problem any... Sep 14 2010, 06:02 AM Tyro I like the Will + Essence bit; the trouble is, run... Sep 14 2010, 06:46 AM The Jopp Excessive kinetic force always works. This of cour... Sep 14 2010, 07:21 AM Dakka Dakka QUOTE (The Jopp @ Sep 14 2010, 09:21 AM) ... Sep 14 2010, 11:16 AM Tyro I think making spirits harder to summon (F*2, maki... Sep 14 2010, 07:29 AM Blade QUOTE (Tyro @ Sep 14 2010, 09:29 AM) I th... Sep 14 2010, 12:48 PM Mordinvan QUOTE (Tyro @ Sep 14 2010, 01:29 AM) I th... Sep 14 2010, 03:23 PM sabs QUOTE (Mordinvan @ Sep 14 2010, 03:23 PM)... Sep 14 2010, 03:36 PM Mordinvan QUOTE (sabs @ Sep 14 2010, 09:36 AM) Wooo... Sep 14 2010, 04:14 PM sabs QUOTE (Mordinvan @ Sep 14 2010, 04:14 PM)... Sep 14 2010, 04:25 PM Makki get a flamethrower or an ares redline laser, but d... Sep 14 2010, 08:26 AM Neraph QUOTE (Makki @ Sep 14 2010, 02:26 AM) get... Sep 14 2010, 06:30 PM Faraday SNS rounds might be bad, but what's keeping yo... Sep 14 2010, 10:41 AM Lansdren Well flamethrowers against Water spirits and Plant... Sep 14 2010, 10:57 AM Ascalaphus The AP route to get past ItNW always seemed cheesy... Sep 14 2010, 11:18 AM Dakka Dakka QUOTE (Ascalaphus @ Sep 14 2010, 01:18 PM... Sep 14 2010, 11:29 AM Ascalaphus QUOTE (Dakka Dakka @ Sep 14 2010, 01:29 P... Sep 14 2010, 02:56 PM Semerkhet QUOTE (Ascalaphus @ Sep 14 2010, 09:56 AM... Sep 14 2010, 03:05 PM Mordinvan QUOTE (Ascalaphus @ Sep 14 2010, 05:18 AM... Sep 14 2010, 03:32 PM TommyTwoToes QUOTE (Mordinvan @ Sep 14 2010, 11:32 AM)... Sep 14 2010, 03:36 PM Mordinvan QUOTE (TommyTwoToes @ Sep 14 2010, 09:36 ... Sep 14 2010, 04:11 PM kzt QUOTE (Mordinvan @ Sep 14 2010, 09:32 AM)... Sep 14 2010, 09:10 PM Eisenbeiß What about the Ares Thunderstruck Gauss Rifle with... Sep 14 2010, 11:19 AM darthmord I have to say that in previous editions, elemental... Sep 14 2010, 01:12 PM sabs The way to deal with Spirits for Mundanes. Bigger... Sep 14 2010, 01:54 PM The Jopp QUOTE (sabs @ Sep 14 2010, 02:54 PM) +3/+... Sep 14 2010, 03:01 PM Semerkhet Following on what Sabs just said: My mundane runn... Sep 14 2010, 02:55 PM sabs There are plenty of mundane ways to deal with Spir... Sep 14 2010, 03:09 PM Semerkhet QUOTE (sabs @ Sep 14 2010, 10:09 AM) Ther... Sep 14 2010, 03:18 PM TommyTwoToes You can always take out spirits by ramming them wi... Sep 14 2010, 03:18 PM Dakka Dakka QUOTE (Ascalaphus @ Sep 14 2010, 04:56 PM... Sep 14 2010, 04:22 PM Mordinvan QUOTE (Dakka Dakka @ Sep 14 2010, 09:22 A... Sep 14 2010, 04:49 PM Doc Chase QUOTE (Mordinvan @ Sep 14 2010, 05:49 PM)... Sep 14 2010, 04:50 PM Neurosis QUOTE (Doc Chase @ Sep 14 2010, 11:50 AM)... Sep 15 2010, 02:35 PM The Jopp QUOTE (Neurosis @ Sep 15 2010, 02:35 PM) ... Sep 15 2010, 02:58 PM Machiavelli QUOTE (Neurosis @ Sep 15 2010, 03:35 PM) ... Sep 15 2010, 05:18 PM Ascalaphus QUOTE (Dakka Dakka @ Sep 14 2010, 06:22 P... Sep 14 2010, 05:41 PM Neurosis I would 'fix' attack of will by making it ... Sep 14 2010, 03:24 PM Megu QUOTE (Neurosis @ Sep 14 2010, 09:24 AM) ... Sep 14 2010, 09:14 PM Doc Chase I've always felt that if you've reached th... Sep 14 2010, 03:54 PM Badmoodguy88 The whole spirit issue is the application of a lot... Sep 14 2010, 04:35 PM Ghremdal I've found that the good old Elephant rifle us... Sep 14 2010, 04:37 PM Mordinvan As for killing spirits without resorting to attack... Sep 14 2010, 04:53 PM X-Kalibur I think the easier solution is to remove SnS and g... Sep 14 2010, 06:11 PM Semerkhet QUOTE (X-Kalibur @ Sep 14 2010, 01:1... Sep 14 2010, 06:25 PM X-Kalibur QUOTE (Semerkhet @ Sep 14 2010, 10:25 AM)... Sep 14 2010, 08:26 PM TommyTwoToes QUOTE (X-Kalibur @ Sep 14 2010, 04:2... Sep 14 2010, 08:33 PM X-Kalibur QUOTE (TommyTwoToes @ Sep 14 2010, 12:33 ... Sep 14 2010, 08:46 PM Mäx QUOTE (X-Kalibur @ Sep 14 2010, 10:2... Sep 15 2010, 06:33 AM Whipstitch QUOTE (Semerkhet @ Sep 14 2010, 01:25 PM)... Sep 14 2010, 09:19 PM X-Kalibur QUOTE (Whipstitch @ Sep 14 2010, 01:19 PM... Sep 14 2010, 09:25 PM sabs I still think that the +DV from Burst and Full aut... Sep 14 2010, 08:49 PM X-Kalibur QUOTE (sabs @ Sep 14 2010, 12:49 PM) I st... Sep 14 2010, 09:01 PM Dakka Dakka Don't forget shotguns. They're at 7P -1 fo... Sep 14 2010, 09:05 PM X-Kalibur That +5 applies though, to my knowledge, and may b... Sep 14 2010, 09:11 PM Dakka Dakka QUOTE (kzt @ Sep 14 2010, 11:10 PM) The p... Sep 14 2010, 09:17 PM X-Kalibur QUOTE (Dakka Dakka @ Sep 14 2010, 01:17 P... Sep 14 2010, 09:24 PM sabs Amusingly a Troll with a Combat Axe, has a much be... Sep 14 2010, 09:11 PM Whipstitch Just saying, a Citymaster with a water cannon will... Sep 14 2010, 09:34 PM X-Kalibur QUOTE (Whipstitch @ Sep 14 2010, 01:34 PM... Sep 14 2010, 09:50 PM Yerameyahu Incidentally, I thought S&S used adhesive. I t... Sep 14 2010, 09:40 PM kzt QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Sep 14 2010, 03:40 PM... Sep 15 2010, 04:24 AM Dakka Dakka QUOTE (kzt @ Sep 15 2010, 06:24 AM) Proba... Sep 15 2010, 05:51 AM Yerameyahu Actually, I'd assume the Citymaster/Water Cann... Sep 14 2010, 09:57 PM Whipstitch What he said. The only thing I've assumed here... Sep 14 2010, 10:29 PM Tyro OP here. I run with F * 1.5 (rounded up) auto-hits... Sep 14 2010, 10:47 PM X-Kalibur Banishing works rather in a reverse fashion. A hig... Sep 14 2010, 11:23 PM tagz In my game all spirits have listed Allergies, but ... Sep 15 2010, 12:24 AM Yerameyahu Make up your mind: "The little darts don... Sep 15 2010, 05:38 AM Tyro QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Sep 14 2010, 10:38 PM... Sep 15 2010, 11:01 AM Yerameyahu It's a flat mistake to try and use 'realis... Sep 15 2010, 06:06 AM Dakka Dakka QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Sep 15 2010, 08:06 AM... Sep 15 2010, 06:07 AM kzt QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Sep 15 2010, 12:06 AM... Sep 15 2010, 06:23 AM Yerameyahu Not logic, 'logic'. With scare-quotes. As... Sep 15 2010, 06:10 AM Dakka Dakka OK Sep 15 2010, 06:12 AM Yerameyahu I agree, kzt. What I'm saying is that we can j... Sep 15 2010, 06:36 AM Neraph *cough cough* I can have a starting character summ... Sep 15 2010, 07:15 AM Mäx QUOTE (Neraph @ Sep 15 2010, 09:15 AM) *c... Sep 15 2010, 08:32 AM The Jopp QUOTE (Neraph @ Sep 15 2010, 07:15 AM) Si... Sep 15 2010, 09:17 AM Neraph QUOTE (The Jopp @ Sep 15 2010, 04:17 AM) ... Sep 15 2010, 04:07 PM Sengir QUOTE (Neraph @ Sep 15 2010, 08:15 AM) *c... Sep 15 2010, 09:29 AM DireRadiant Spirits have DV boxes. Stuff does DV damage. Spiri... Sep 15 2010, 03:24 PM Dakka Dakka QUOTE (DireRadiant @ Sep 15 2010, 05:24 P... Sep 15 2010, 03:43 PM Yerameyahu Ooh! You could go all Final Fantasy: fire heal... Sep 15 2010, 03:55 PM X-Kalibur Most of the time there was no water element in FF ... Sep 15 2010, 04:00 PM Yerameyahu As always, it's Narcoject + DMSO, of course. T... Sep 15 2010, 05:05 PM Mr. Unpronounceable But why, exactly?
A fire elemental is made of the ... Sep 15 2010, 05:31 PM Yerameyahu Eh, it'd probably be okay to give elemental sp... Sep 15 2010, 05:34 PM Ascalaphus QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Sep 15 2010, 07:34 PM... Sep 15 2010, 06:54 PM Yerameyahu Haha, oh god. Obviously, that's not the case, ... Sep 15 2010, 06:57 PM Mäx QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Sep 15 2010, 09:57 PM... Sep 15 2010, 07:32 PM Yerameyahu Right; like I said, they get screwed compared to f... Sep 15 2010, 07:38 PM Megu I been thinking about the Attacks of Will thing so... Sep 15 2010, 08:13 PM Badmoodguy88 I was under the impression drugs don't work on... Sep 15 2010, 08:28 PM  |
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