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SaintHax
post Sep 24 2010, 06:28 PM
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Here are some points of contention. I'll list them, and provide a suggestion to fix it-- my suggestion may not be the best, or to Bull's liking, but I'd like to offer something. Maybe someone else will have something better. I’m going to break them up into several quick posts to make people that quote them a more sane endeavor.
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- SaintHax   SRM04 FAQ considerations   Sep 24 2010, 06:28 PM
- - SaintHax   1. No optional Rules -- sounds great, but it is in...   Sep 24 2010, 06:28 PM
- - SaintHax   2. Forced 4:1 rule. I despise this rule, as it me...   Sep 24 2010, 06:28 PM
- - SaintHax   3. Diminishing Returns. Before SR4A came out, we ...   Sep 24 2010, 06:29 PM
- - SaintHax   4. Fencing. Where to begin? Start using some of ...   Sep 24 2010, 06:29 PM
- - SaintHax   5. Qualities/Flaws banned. No real change here, b...   Sep 24 2010, 06:29 PM
- - SaintHax   Lastly a rule I’d like added to SRM 7. Payscale. ...   Sep 24 2010, 06:30 PM
- - SaintHax   *My note about preventing cheating… No one wants ...   Sep 24 2010, 06:30 PM
- - Neurosis   On a theory level (as a GM and the creator/runner ...   Sep 24 2010, 07:46 PM
|- - Bull   QUOTE (Neurosis @ Sep 24 2010, 03:46 PM) ...   Sep 24 2010, 07:55 PM
- - Bull   One caveat to my notes here... The FAQ officially...   Sep 24 2010, 07:54 PM
- - Neurosis   Right you are. The one I played was 'A Fork In...   Sep 24 2010, 08:01 PM
- - Bull   It's a simplification tool to speed up pretty ...   Sep 24 2010, 08:31 PM
- - Neurosis   QUOTE The Fencing rolls only serve one purpose... ...   Sep 24 2010, 08:38 PM
- - Chance359   How about this, runners declare they are looting, ...   Sep 24 2010, 08:39 PM
- - Neurosis   I think 10% of what they actually loot is better, ...   Sep 24 2010, 08:44 PM
|- - cndblank   QUOTE (Neurosis @ Sep 24 2010, 03:44 PM) ...   Oct 12 2010, 06:23 AM
- - Bull   30% is because they're selling to dealers. It...   Sep 24 2010, 09:35 PM
|- - SaintHax   QUOTE (Bull @ Sep 24 2010, 04:35 PM) See ...   Sep 24 2010, 09:55 PM
- - Chance359   QUOTE You're professionals, mercenaries (for a...   Sep 24 2010, 10:08 PM
|- - SaintHax   QUOTE (Chance359 @ Sep 24 2010, 05:08 PM)...   Sep 24 2010, 10:58 PM
- - Wraith235   I hope Im posting this in the right place if I hav...   Sep 25 2010, 05:17 PM
- - Neurosis   Stealing to supplement incomes on runs is not inna...   Sep 25 2010, 06:44 PM
- - LurkerOutThere   Thoughts: The qualities section needs update, in ...   Sep 26 2010, 05:41 AM
|- - KarmaInferno   QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Sep 26 2010, 01:4...   Sep 26 2010, 07:47 AM
|- - Wraith235   QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Sep 26 2010, 01:4...   Sep 26 2010, 01:14 PM
|- - SaintHax   QUOTE (Wraith235 @ Sep 26 2010, 09:14 AM)...   Sep 27 2010, 01:44 PM
- - Neurosis   QUOTE also IMHO Control thoughts needs to be banne...   Sep 26 2010, 09:05 PM
- - KarmaInferno   I really don't think any "game balance...   Sep 26 2010, 11:34 PM
|- - Fringe   QUOTE (KarmaInferno @ Sep 26 2010, 06:34 ...   Sep 27 2010, 01:24 AM
- - KarmaInferno   Heck, even 4:1 wouldn't be so bad if it wasn...   Sep 27 2010, 02:38 AM
- - LurkerOutThere   Well i don't normally make game balance sugges...   Sep 27 2010, 04:24 AM
- - Wraith235   Possession traditions are rough ... I personally h...   Sep 27 2010, 07:12 PM
- - Neurosis   If 'dead' is the issue, manabolt makes you...   Sep 27 2010, 09:06 PM
- - Wraith235   AE Version .... Mob mind (think thats the thoughts...   Sep 28 2010, 12:54 AM
|- - Dumori   QUOTE (Wraith235 @ Sep 28 2010, 01:54 AM)...   Sep 28 2010, 01:11 AM
|- - Wraith235   QUOTE (Dumori @ Sep 27 2010, 09:11 PM) Th...   Sep 28 2010, 03:24 AM
- - LurkerOutThere   I concur, one of the best arguments for outright b...   Sep 28 2010, 04:20 AM
- - Wasabi   The Influence and Compulsion powers of spirits (In...   Sep 28 2010, 10:16 AM
- - KarmaInferno   I've found that mind-control builds in nearly ...   Sep 28 2010, 06:43 PM
|- - Dumori   QUOTE (KarmaInferno @ Sep 28 2010, 07:43 ...   Sep 28 2010, 09:49 PM
|- - SaintHax   QUOTE (Dumori @ Sep 28 2010, 05:49 PM) It...   Sep 29 2010, 12:33 AM
- - KarmaInferno   I think he meant it as "It IS mind control, a...   Sep 29 2010, 01:03 AM
- - Wasabi   It wasn't as bad in prior editions where there...   Sep 29 2010, 03:49 AM
|- - Wraith235   QUOTE (Wasabi @ Sep 28 2010, 11:49 PM) It...   Sep 29 2010, 09:22 PM
- - Wasabi   Thresholds in 4th reduce hits so its pretty harsh ...   Sep 29 2010, 10:19 PM
- - Neurosis   Um, wouldn't the Threshold be 3 if the target...   Sep 30 2010, 12:36 AM
|- - SaintHax   QUOTE (Neurosis @ Sep 29 2010, 08:36 PM) ...   Sep 30 2010, 01:22 PM
- - Neurosis   IMHO Stunbolt is the single most powerful spell in...   Sep 30 2010, 06:32 PM
- - naga-nuyen   I say BAN shadowrunners...there illegal anyway...   Sep 30 2010, 07:32 PM
|- - Fringe   QUOTE (naga-nuyen @ Sep 30 2010, 02...   Sep 30 2010, 09:37 PM
- - naga-nuyen   Whichever Corp scooped up voodoo doughnut is the o...   Sep 30 2010, 10:46 PM
- - Wraith235   been thinking about the extended tests thing .... ...   Oct 10 2010, 05:44 PM
- - Neurosis   Not having to calculate what (30% of 3750) -20% -2...   Oct 12 2010, 06:25 PM
- - Bull   For the record... The official Season 4 FAQ rulin...   Oct 12 2010, 08:33 PM
|- - LurkerOutThere   QUOTE (Bull @ Oct 12 2010, 03:33 PM) For ...   Oct 12 2010, 10:30 PM
||- - KarmaInferno   QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Oct 12 2010, 05:3...   Oct 13 2010, 06:14 AM
|- - SaintHax   QUOTE (Bull @ Oct 12 2010, 04:33 PM) Agai...   Oct 13 2010, 11:39 AM
|- - KarmaInferno   QUOTE (SaintHax @ Oct 13 2010, 07:39 AM) ...   Oct 15 2010, 02:49 AM
|- - Neurosis   QUOTE (KarmaInferno @ Oct 14 2010, 09:49 ...   Oct 15 2010, 10:07 PM
- - Bull   And to Clarify, that applies to Season 4 and up, f...   Oct 12 2010, 08:33 PM
- - Wasabi   The SINner quality is pretty clear cut but the leg...   Oct 13 2010, 12:05 AM
|- - Fringe   QUOTE (Wasabi @ Oct 12 2010, 07:05 PM) Th...   Oct 13 2010, 08:18 AM
- - LurkerOutThere   If it's a fake sin it's not a legal transa...   Oct 13 2010, 06:50 AM
- - Chance359   Rather than write up a new set of rules for the ne...   Oct 13 2010, 07:21 AM
- - Fringe   An interesting point. Although SRM 4 seems to be ...   Oct 13 2010, 02:10 PM
- - Caine Hazen   Man you're all a whiney bunch. Sorry your fac...   Oct 14 2010, 06:30 PM
- - suoq   http://forums.dumpshock.com/index.php?show...mp;#e...   Oct 14 2010, 08:03 PM
|- - Caine Hazen   QUOTE (suoq @ Oct 14 2010, 03:03 PM) http...   Oct 14 2010, 08:53 PM
|- - LurkerOutThere   Actually by design hacking is not an essential par...   Oct 15 2010, 04:27 AM
- - Chance359   People dont like being told they are "whiny...   Oct 14 2010, 11:18 PM
- - Redjack   1. Please use the "Report" button rather...   Oct 14 2010, 11:29 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Looting and fencing are definitely the least Shado...   Oct 15 2010, 02:51 AM
- - KarmaInferno   I think you got hung up on the wording of my post ...   Oct 15 2010, 09:30 AM
- - Wasabi   To say gear acquisition is a downtime activity doe...   Oct 15 2010, 10:52 AM
|- - KarmaInferno   QUOTE (Wasabi @ Oct 15 2010, 05:52 AM) To...   Oct 15 2010, 07:46 PM
- - Chance359   how about this: Contacts with a connection rating...   Oct 15 2010, 11:04 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Selling loot isn't gear acquisition. It's ...   Oct 15 2010, 02:26 PM
- - Caine Hazen   KarmaInferno and Yerameyahu seem to get it. Feel ...   Oct 15 2010, 04:35 PM
|- - Fringe   QUOTE (Caine Hazen @ Oct 15 2010, 12:35 P...   Oct 15 2010, 05:09 PM
|- - SaintHax   QUOTE (Caine Hazen @ Oct 15 2010, 12:35 P...   Oct 15 2010, 07:18 PM
||- - Caine Hazen   QUOTE (SaintHax @ Oct 15 2010, 02:18 PM) ...   Oct 15 2010, 09:38 PM
|- - RobertB   QUOTE (Caine Hazen @ Oct 15 2010, 11:35 A...   Oct 18 2010, 02:32 PM
- - Chance359   Since the constant theme from the company seems to...   Oct 15 2010, 05:00 PM
- - Yerameyahu   You're overstating things. No matter how ugly ...   Oct 15 2010, 07:46 PM
- - SaintHax   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Oct 15 2010, 03:46 PM...   Oct 18 2010, 02:33 PM
|- - Caine Hazen   QUOTE (SaintHax @ Oct 18 2010, 09:33 AM) ...   Oct 18 2010, 03:35 PM
||- - KarmaInferno   QUOTE (Caine Hazen @ Oct 18 2010, 10:35 A...   Oct 18 2010, 06:51 PM
|- - KarmaInferno   QUOTE (SaintHax @ Oct 18 2010, 09:33 AM) ...   Oct 18 2010, 06:47 PM
- - Yerameyahu   If you're fencing through a contact, that...   Oct 18 2010, 03:24 PM
- - SaintHax   QUOTE (Caine Hazen @ Oct 18 2010, 11:35 A...   Oct 18 2010, 08:23 PM
|- - KarmaInferno   QUOTE (SaintHax @ Oct 18 2010, 03:23 PM) ...   Oct 19 2010, 03:15 AM
- - Bull   Ok guys, please, lets not argue. Everyone has opi...   Oct 19 2010, 02:58 AM
- - Neurosis   QUOTE Ok guys, please, lets not argue. Everyone ha...   Oct 19 2010, 05:38 AM
|- - SaintHax   QUOTE (Neurosis @ Oct 19 2010, 01:38 AM) ...   Oct 19 2010, 05:05 PM
- - Neurosis   What qualifies as enough skill?   Oct 20 2010, 07:56 PM
- - Redjack   QUOTE (Neurosis @ Oct 20 2010, 01:56 PM) ...   Oct 20 2010, 08:00 PM
- - Wraith235   I really dont see this as that hot button of an is...   Oct 21 2010, 06:48 AM
|- - SaintHax   QUOTE (Wraith235 @ Oct 21 2010, 02:48 AM)...   Oct 21 2010, 12:20 PM
- - Neurosis   SaintHax I must say I really dislike the "all...   Oct 22 2010, 12:32 AM
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