 Does 200 BP attribute cap hurt humans too much? |
 Sep 25 2010, 07:54 AM
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Human chars with always seem to get a really bad statline. The 200 BP attribute cap just really shifts in favor of metahumans when they get at least 3 extra attribute points outside of that cap.
I let humans spend 220 BPs. |
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Smokeskin Does 200 BP attribute cap hurt humans too much? Sep 25 2010, 07:54 AM
SleepIncarnate That 200 BP cap doesn't apply to edge, magic, ... Sep 25 2010, 08:20 AM Thanee I have never really had any problems with creating... Sep 25 2010, 09:02 AM Saint Sithney 1pt of Edge is not something to be crowing about.
... Sep 25 2010, 09:12 AM Glyph QUOTE (Smokeskin @ Sep 25 2010, 12:54 AM)... Sep 25 2010, 11:04 AM
SleepIncarnate No, my argument is that a human street sam who spe... Sep 28 2010, 11:32 AM Smokeskin QUOTE (SleepIncarnate @ Sep 28 2010, 01:3... Sep 28 2010, 12:12 PM Thanee QUOTE (Smokeskin @ Sep 28 2010, 02:12 PM)... Sep 28 2010, 12:50 PM Smokeskin QUOTE (Thanee @ Sep 28 2010, 02:50 PM) Mu... Sep 28 2010, 01:35 PM Fauxknight QUOTE (Thanee @ Sep 28 2010, 07:50 AM) St... Sep 28 2010, 02:30 PM Thanee QUOTE (Fauxknight @ Sep 28 2010, 04:30 PM... Sep 28 2010, 06:51 PM pbangarth Maybe humans shouldn't be applicable to all ro... Sep 25 2010, 01:57 PM Omenowl As the 400 BP is for competent, but not world clas... Sep 25 2010, 02:11 PM Smokeskin QUOTE (Omenowl @ Sep 25 2010, 04:11 PM) A... Sep 25 2010, 06:15 PM pbangarth QUOTE (Smokeskin @ Sep 25 2010, 01:15 PM)... Sep 25 2010, 06:48 PM Kruger QUOTE (pbangarth @ Sep 25 2010, 11:48 AM)... Sep 25 2010, 07:47 PM Saint Sithney QUOTE (Kruger @ Sep 25 2010, 12:47 PM) He... Sep 26 2010, 02:58 AM Shinobi Killfist QUOTE (Kruger @ Sep 25 2010, 02:47 PM) Wh... Sep 26 2010, 04:32 PM SleepIncarnate No, the "there's balance and you're j... Sep 28 2010, 12:49 PM Shinobi Killfist My main issue with the 200 BP limit is the vast ma... Sep 25 2010, 03:18 PM UmaroVI QUOTE (Shinobi Killfist @ Sep 25 2010, 11... Sep 25 2010, 04:07 PM Marcus 1 free point of Edge is a free 10 pts for being hu... Sep 25 2010, 04:55 PM Yerameyahu It's okay for humans to be slightly weaker in ... Sep 25 2010, 05:01 PM Neurosis QUOTE (Smokeskin @ Sep 25 2010, 02:54 AM)... Sep 25 2010, 06:25 PM Whipstitch QUOTE (Neurosis @ Sep 25 2010, 01:25 PM) ... Sep 25 2010, 07:49 PM jakephillips QUOTE (Whipstitch @ Sep 25 2010, 02:49 PM... Sep 27 2010, 01:30 AM Yerameyahu Indeed, pbangarth. That also assumes that those po... Sep 25 2010, 07:12 PM Sixgun_Sage Call me crazy but I have never been a fan of point... Sep 25 2010, 07:37 PM Glyph The difference between the +1 Edge for a human and... Sep 25 2010, 07:39 PM Yerameyahu I agree that Ork in SR4A (like Dwarf in SR3) has t... Sep 25 2010, 07:43 PM Yerameyahu Right. You should really be giving some problems f... Sep 25 2010, 07:56 PM Whipstitch I tend to spring it on ork faces precisely because... Sep 25 2010, 08:19 PM Neurosis This seems like actually such a minor issue it... Sep 25 2010, 10:11 PM pbangarth QUOTE (Neurosis @ Sep 25 2010, 05:11 PM) ... Sep 25 2010, 10:42 PM Marcus QUOTE (Neurosis @ Sep 25 2010, 06:11 PM) ... Sep 26 2010, 06:45 AM Neurosis I know right! Sep 25 2010, 10:53 PM Thanee So, yeah, the Metas get to spend more on Attribute... Sep 26 2010, 02:43 AM Whipstitch QUOTE (Thanee @ Sep 25 2010, 09:43 PM) So... Sep 26 2010, 03:21 AM Fauxknight QUOTE (Thanee @ Sep 25 2010, 10:43 PM) So... Sep 27 2010, 01:42 PM Yerameyahu It's certainly not as important as all that. A... Sep 26 2010, 03:02 AM Saint Sithney QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Sep 25 2010, 08:02 PM... Sep 26 2010, 03:58 AM Thanee But the complaint is, that they can effectively sp... Sep 26 2010, 03:32 AM Yerameyahu I didn't say that. I just offered the obvious ... Sep 26 2010, 04:15 AM Karoline As much as Orks are being mentioned as the 'mo... Sep 26 2010, 04:58 AM Whipstitch QUOTE (Karoline @ Sep 25 2010, 11:58 PM) ... Sep 26 2010, 07:28 AM Saint Sithney QUOTE (Karoline @ Sep 25 2010, 09:58 PM) ... Sep 26 2010, 07:34 AM SleepIncarnate QUOTE (Karoline @ Sep 25 2010, 11:58 PM) ... Sep 26 2010, 01:46 PM Smokeskin All it takes is 5BPs for Human Looking, and Ork so... Sep 26 2010, 10:24 AM SleepIncarnate Except now they get social penalties with other me... Sep 26 2010, 11:48 AM Neurosis QUOTE 1 point of Strength costs as much as 1 point... Sep 26 2010, 04:52 PM Yerameyahu Forget wasting 5BP, Smokeskin. Minor (ish) cosmeti... Sep 26 2010, 09:43 PM Glyph Metatype change costs 0.30 Essence and costs 25,00... Sep 26 2010, 10:45 PM Yerameyahu That's true, Glyph. I was thinking of not goin... Sep 26 2010, 10:47 PM Saint Sithney QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Sep 26 2010, 02:47 PM... Sep 27 2010, 07:26 AM sabs QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Sep 27 2010, 08:26... Sep 27 2010, 12:58 PM SleepIncarnate QUOTE (sabs @ Sep 27 2010, 06:58 AM) Wait... Sep 28 2010, 02:06 AM Whipstitch QUOTE (SleepIncarnate @ Sep 27 2010, 09:0... Sep 28 2010, 03:58 AM Saint Sithney QUOTE (SleepIncarnate @ Sep 27 2010, 06:0... Sep 28 2010, 05:58 AM Smokeskin QUOTE (SleepIncarnate @ Sep 28 2010, 04:0... Sep 28 2010, 07:37 AM Saint Sithney QUOTE (sabs @ Sep 27 2010, 04:58 AM) Wait... Sep 28 2010, 05:34 AM sabs Does Limiting Resources to 50 BP hurt Technical ch... Sep 27 2010, 12:56 AM Thanee QUOTE (sabs @ Sep 27 2010, 02:56 AM) Karm... Sep 27 2010, 07:40 AM Kruger Considering how much cheaper a lot of stuff got in... Sep 27 2010, 01:02 AM Thanee You are not using SR4A, or are you? Attributes wit... Sep 27 2010, 02:11 PM Fauxknight QUOTE (Thanee @ Sep 27 2010, 10:11 AM) Yo... Sep 27 2010, 02:35 PM toturi It really depends on what house rules (if any) are... Sep 28 2010, 04:09 AM Glyph QUOTE (toturi @ Sep 27 2010, 09:09 PM) Bu... Sep 28 2010, 04:29 AM sabs In BP char gen.. you want to min max your stats as... Sep 27 2010, 02:17 PM SleepIncarnate I didn't say elves weren't better faces th... Sep 28 2010, 08:10 AM Smokeskin QUOTE (SleepIncarnate @ Sep 28 2010, 10:1... Sep 28 2010, 10:56 AM Saint Sithney Wait, what? Okay Sleep, so two Humans together ar... Sep 28 2010, 11:20 AM SleepIncarnate No, my point is don't bother min/maxing, just ... Sep 28 2010, 12:20 PM Smokeskin Ah, the "I don't care about mechanics bec... Sep 28 2010, 12:30 PM Thanee Yeah, but 2 of those points are Strength (not rele... Sep 28 2010, 02:25 PM Smokeskin QUOTE (Thanee @ Sep 28 2010, 04:25 PM) Ye... Sep 28 2010, 05:43 PM Fauxknight QUOTE (Smokeskin @ Sep 28 2010, 01:43 PM)... Sep 28 2010, 06:22 PM SleepIncarnate Ok, now that I'm back and have access to my bo... Sep 28 2010, 02:36 PM Fauxknight QUOTE (SleepIncarnate @ Sep 28 2010, 10:3... Sep 28 2010, 02:52 PM Kruger QUOTE (SleepIncarnate @ Sep 28 2010, 07:3... Sep 28 2010, 05:03 PM SleepIncarnate Judging by those core 5 skills...... 3 of the 4 tr... Sep 28 2010, 03:08 PM Fauxknight QUOTE (SleepIncarnate @ Sep 28 2010, 10:0... Sep 28 2010, 03:26 PM pbangarth QUOTE (Fauxknight @ Sep 28 2010, 11:26 AM... Sep 28 2010, 03:31 PM Fauxknight QUOTE (pbangarth @ Sep 28 2010, 10:31 AM)... Sep 28 2010, 03:35 PM pbangarth QUOTE (Fauxknight @ Sep 28 2010, 11:35 AM... Sep 28 2010, 06:47 PM Fauxknight QUOTE (pbangarth @ Sep 28 2010, 02:47 PM)... Sep 28 2010, 06:59 PM pbangarth The discussion so far has focussed on the differen... Sep 28 2010, 03:11 PM yesferatu I'm with SleepIncarnate here.
I prefer humans ... Sep 28 2010, 03:51 PM SleepIncarnate QUOTE (Fauxknight @ Sep 28 2010, 09:26 AM... Sep 28 2010, 03:52 PM Fauxknight QUOTE (SleepIncarnate @ Sep 28 2010, 10:5... Sep 28 2010, 04:08 PM SleepIncarnate QUOTE (Fauxknight @ Sep 28 2010, 10:08 AM... Sep 28 2010, 04:18 PM Fauxknight QUOTE (SleepIncarnate @ Sep 28 2010, 12:1... Sep 28 2010, 05:22 PM yesferatu Logic and Charisma aren't exactly dump stats e... Sep 28 2010, 05:53 PM Fauxknight QUOTE (yesferatu @ Sep 28 2010, 12:53 PM)... Sep 28 2010, 06:04 PM Yerameyahu Logic certainly *can* be a dumb stat, and we don... Sep 28 2010, 06:20 PM Doc Chase QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Sep 28 2010, 07:20 PM... Sep 28 2010, 06:24 PM Kruger QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Sep 28 2010, 11:20 AM... Sep 28 2010, 06:55 PM yesferatu "...and that human will be worse than an elf,... Sep 28 2010, 06:21 PM Fauxknight QUOTE (yesferatu @ Sep 28 2010, 02:21 PM)... Sep 28 2010, 06:34 PM Yerameyahu Heh. I mean, I'm not encouraging it, but it... Sep 28 2010, 06:26 PM Doc Chase QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Sep 28 2010, 07:26 PM... Sep 28 2010, 06:29 PM  |
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