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The Herald
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I'm playing a SR4 game as a KE officer in Seattle who happens to have a 12 year old daughter who is about to turn 13. She's getting a comm for her b-day, but originally was asking for a datajack. My character is very pro-cyberware and really has no problem with this (other than the fact she wants to buy her a beta grade datajack and that costs muchas dough, nothing but the best for her angel), but there are a few issues:

1.KE officer (mother) is an Ork and the child (biological) is a human. According to rules there's an 85% chance that the child will turn into a Ork sometime during puberty (or later or sooner). If she goblinizes (the mother and daughter are very aware this will happen, just a matter of time) would the datajack potentially worsen health problems connected to goblinization?

2.The child will be 13. Though I think the head stops growing in size around that age, I'm not completely sure.

3.Socially it's a little fuzzy when it is acceptable for children to have cyberware in middle class society.


I know much of this really depends on the GM, but I'm wanting some thoughts on the matter. We try to play with a sense of psychological realism. So these details matter. How have you handled cyberware in children in your games? have you dealt with this before?
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- The Herald   At what age is it ok to instal cyberware?   Oct 2 2010, 04:01 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Cyber is lame and passé. She only wants bio, or fo...   Oct 2 2010, 04:03 PM
- - The Herald   in the SR4 book under Ork it describes that if a h...   Oct 2 2010, 04:09 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Trodes are more elegant, because *not* installing ...   Oct 2 2010, 04:31 PM
|- - Summerstorm   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Oct 2 2010, 06:31 PM)...   Oct 2 2010, 05:43 PM
|- - Whipstitch   I don't think it's that insane someone mig...   Oct 2 2010, 06:15 PM
- - Summerstorm   Well, i never read anything official on that... an...   Oct 2 2010, 04:41 PM
|- - The Herald   QUOTE (Summerstorm @ Oct 2 2010, 11:41 AM...   Oct 2 2010, 04:48 PM
- - CanRay   Otaku had to have Datajacks back in the day...   Oct 2 2010, 04:45 PM
- - Marcus   Eh, there are stories discussing raising kids in t...   Oct 2 2010, 05:05 PM
- - pbangarth   There are lots of neurological and cognitive chang...   Oct 2 2010, 05:37 PM
|- - Mayhem_2006   QUOTE (pbangarth @ Oct 2 2010, 06:37 PM) ...   Oct 2 2010, 07:10 PM
|- - KCKitsune   QUOTE (Mayhem_2006 @ Oct 2 2010, 02:10 PM...   Oct 2 2010, 07:55 PM
||- - Mayhem_2006   QUOTE (KCKitsune @ Oct 2 2010, 08:55 PM) ...   Oct 2 2010, 08:05 PM
|- - KarmaInferno   QUOTE (Mayhem_2006 @ Oct 2 2010, 03:10 PM...   Oct 2 2010, 09:05 PM
|- - Mayhem_2006   QUOTE (KarmaInferno @ Oct 2 2010, 10:05 P...   Oct 2 2010, 09:15 PM
- - Nifft   "Cyberware is for grown-ups" -> only ...   Oct 2 2010, 05:44 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Ambition and quality? What on earth could you be b...   Oct 2 2010, 05:47 PM
|- - LurkerOutThere   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Oct 2 2010, 11:47 AM)...   Oct 2 2010, 09:34 PM
|- - Dumori   QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Oct 2 2010, 10:34...   Oct 2 2010, 09:56 PM
- - Summerstorm   Trodes should have a penalty to use. (Why they don...   Oct 2 2010, 05:55 PM
|- - Marcus   QUOTE (Summerstorm @ Oct 2 2010, 01:55 PM...   Oct 2 2010, 06:18 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Okay, you're absolutely right: if you *invent*...   Oct 2 2010, 05:57 PM
|- - Dumori   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Oct 2 2010, 06:57 PM)...   Oct 2 2010, 09:31 PM
- - Summerstorm   Maybe... but the book also says a lot of other stu...   Oct 2 2010, 06:06 PM
- - Yerameyahu   I think that's exactly what it means: they...   Oct 2 2010, 06:09 PM
|- - The Dragon Girl   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Oct 2 2010, 02:09 PM)...   Oct 3 2010, 12:24 AM
|- - Dumori   QUOTE (The Dragon Girl @ Oct 3 2010, 01:2...   Oct 3 2010, 03:40 AM
- - The Herald   There's also the added benefit that if you hav...   Oct 2 2010, 06:15 PM
- - Summerstorm   Well, i guess we both have our firm ground and we ...   Oct 2 2010, 06:18 PM
- - Yerameyahu   I think you're a little over the top there, Wh...   Oct 2 2010, 06:21 PM
- - Whipstitch   QUOTE (Augmentation)It stands to reason that the a...   Oct 2 2010, 06:55 PM
- - Yerameyahu   No, that's not what I meant. I meant you were...   Oct 2 2010, 06:58 PM
- - Whipstitch   I tend to be serious when I disagree with people, ...   Oct 2 2010, 07:03 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Too serious. And I didn't say that people wer...   Oct 2 2010, 07:04 PM
- - Whipstitch   Nope. It gets across the intended effect.   Oct 2 2010, 07:05 PM
- - Yerameyahu   And, as I pointed out, you're arguing against ...   Oct 2 2010, 07:07 PM
|- - Whipstitch   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Oct 2 2010, 02:07 PM)...   Oct 2 2010, 07:15 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Not angry. Just serious. I think your position i...   Oct 2 2010, 07:22 PM
- - Whipstitch   An awful lot of young trends are based on old tren...   Oct 2 2010, 07:27 PM
- - Yerameyahu   I agree. Both are solidly-precedented possibilitie...   Oct 2 2010, 07:37 PM
- - Whipstitch   Nah, a lot of my best friends are hipsters. They...   Oct 2 2010, 07:39 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Hehe, fair enough.   Oct 2 2010, 07:41 PM
- - The Herald   So a few touched on bioware, but not much. Is it t...   Oct 2 2010, 08:53 PM
- - KarmaInferno   But competitor trodes wouldn't be compatible w...   Oct 2 2010, 09:23 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Sounds like you have *your* own biases. I'm t...   Oct 2 2010, 09:52 PM
- - Yerameyahu   That's a good point. After all, there are repa...   Oct 2 2010, 10:03 PM
|- - Dumori   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Oct 2 2010, 11:03 PM)...   Oct 2 2010, 10:05 PM
- - Yerameyahu   They definitely de-emphasized that aspect of the g...   Oct 2 2010, 10:14 PM
|- - Dumori   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Oct 2 2010, 11:14 PM)...   Oct 2 2010, 10:17 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Right, that's what I was thinking. It's pa...   Oct 2 2010, 10:22 PM
|- - Dumori   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Oct 2 2010, 11:22 PM)...   Oct 2 2010, 10:31 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Oh, I see what you meant. Sorry, I misread you as...   Oct 2 2010, 11:04 PM
- - Kruger   Trodes = datajack.... More 4e fluff rape.   Oct 2 2010, 11:13 PM
- - Pepsi Jedi   One of the frequent posters in the Shadowlands of ...   Oct 2 2010, 11:17 PM
|- - Dumori   QUOTE (Pepsi Jedi @ Oct 3 2010, 12:17 AM)...   Oct 2 2010, 11:31 PM
- - Inferno_24   I can see a few non fashion related reasons for a ...   Oct 2 2010, 11:33 PM
|- - Dumori   QUOTE (Inferno_24 @ Oct 3 2010, 12:33 AM)...   Oct 2 2010, 11:39 PM
|- - Nifft   QUOTE (Inferno_24 @ Oct 2 2010, 06:33 PM)...   Oct 2 2010, 11:44 PM
- - Yerameyahu   I just want to mention, again, that trodes can do ...   Oct 2 2010, 11:44 PM
|- - Inferno_24   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Oct 2 2010, 07:44 PM)...   Oct 3 2010, 12:21 AM
- - Badmoodguy88   QUOTE "Cyberware is for grown-ups" -...   Oct 2 2010, 11:55 PM
- - Yerameyahu   No, vinyl degrades and has its own compression iss...   Oct 3 2010, 12:38 AM
|- - The Dragon Girl   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Oct 2 2010, 08:38 PM)...   Oct 3 2010, 12:54 AM
- - Kruger   Kids also do shit to piss their parents off, and n...   Oct 3 2010, 12:39 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Yes, but: "My character is very pro-cyberware...   Oct 3 2010, 12:41 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Again, yes, but I'm specifically focusing on c...   Oct 3 2010, 01:08 AM
|- - The Dragon Girl   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Oct 2 2010, 09:08 PM)...   Oct 3 2010, 01:12 AM
- - Yerameyahu   That's possible. On the other hand, I'm ce...   Oct 3 2010, 01:18 AM
- - naga-nuyen   Make if this what you want, but in the novel Burni...   Oct 3 2010, 05:58 AM
|- - Dumori   QUOTE (naga-nuyen @ Oct 3 2010, 06:5...   Oct 3 2010, 06:08 AM
- - Dahrken   If the child has a 95% likelthood of goblinizing, ...   Oct 3 2010, 12:09 PM


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