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Aerospider
post Nov 2 2010, 01:48 PM
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Does anyone else think that banishing and counterspelling foci being category-specific makes them rather unattractive?

It's different for all the others because the user can make them useful, but these two are right-implement-right-time affairs.

Let's take the banishing focus, costing 5k and 3 karma per force. So 15,000 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) and 9 karma gets you a tasty F3 fire-banishing focus. And how oftem will you use it?

Let's assume all spirit types are equally prevalent and that summoners don't have a bias towards lots of different or lots of the same spirit. Then, if you come up against one spirit there's a 10% chance you get a banishing bonus. If you come up against two from the same summoner there's an 18% chance you get a bonus against at least one of them and if it's three spirits it's still less than 25% that one of them will be a fire spirit.

That's pretty damn poor for the outlay, and the prepared-for-anything guy needs 10 foci with a karma cost well into the double, maybe triple digits and a cash expenditure of (probably) over 100k. All for a just few extra dice.

Consequently, I envisage that in the Sixth World most banishing and counterspelling foci earn their keep more in the role of mantlepiece-conversation-starter than in the role they were enchanted for.

Does anyone see any major unbalancing by removing the category limitation? Should the price and/or karma cost increase?
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- Aerospider   Banishing and Counterspelling Foci   Nov 2 2010, 01:48 PM
- - darthmord   Well, making them general use foci would increase ...   Nov 2 2010, 01:57 PM
|- - pbangarth   QUOTE (darthmord @ Nov 2 2010, 09:57 AM) ...   Nov 2 2010, 02:19 PM
- - Warlordtheft   I always read that the counterspelling and banishi...   Nov 2 2010, 02:07 PM
|- - Warlordtheft   QUOTE (Warlordtheft @ Nov 2 2010, 10:07 A...   Nov 3 2010, 01:13 PM
|- - Aerospider   QUOTE (Warlordtheft @ Nov 3 2010, 01:13 P...   Nov 3 2010, 01:51 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Aerospider @ Nov 3 2010, 08:51 AM)...   Nov 3 2010, 04:34 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Nov 3 2010, 10:34 AM) S...   Nov 3 2010, 10:33 PM
- - pbangarth   If I were a magician with a Negative Quality such ...   Nov 2 2010, 02:12 PM
- - Summerstorm   And with the counterspelling foci: How much do you...   Nov 2 2010, 04:07 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Summerstorm @ Nov 2 2010, 10:07 AM...   Nov 3 2010, 02:33 AM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Nov 3 2010, 04...   Nov 3 2010, 08:58 AM
- - Mäx   Yeah, +5 dice to counterspell combat spells for 25...   Nov 2 2010, 04:54 PM
- - Summerstorm   Well, yeah... but you need shielding to use it.   Nov 3 2010, 09:14 AM
- - Warlordtheft   Surprisingly even with this misunderstanding, none...   Nov 3 2010, 02:00 PM
- - Warlordtheft   Actually detection, illusion, manipulation and hea...   Nov 3 2010, 06:52 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Warlordtheft @ Nov 3 2010, 01:52 P...   Nov 3 2010, 07:11 PM
- - Ascalaphus   I can get behind making Banishing a general focus....   Nov 3 2010, 10:58 PM
|- - tagz   QUOTE (Ascalaphus @ Nov 3 2010, 10:58 PM)...   Nov 3 2010, 11:38 PM
- - Whipstitch   Manipulations and Combat may have all the "Sa...   Nov 3 2010, 11:10 PM
- - Mäx   That actually paints a pretty cool picture of a ba...   Nov 4 2010, 09:04 AM
|- - Jaid   QUOTE (Mäx @ Nov 4 2010, 05:04 AM) That a...   Nov 5 2010, 05:09 PM
- - Ascalaphus   Cool picture, maybe. Viable and powerful enough? I...   Nov 4 2010, 09:44 AM
- - Summerstorm   Ah... but if he binds over his (magic*2) in force ...   Nov 4 2010, 09:51 AM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (Summerstorm @ Nov 4 2010, 11:51 AM...   Nov 4 2010, 12:18 PM
- - Whipstitch   Yeah, I mean, I was raised Catholic but if anythin...   Nov 5 2010, 07:02 PM
- - Ascalaphus   Prayer beads are a convenient way to keep track of...   Nov 6 2010, 12:34 AM
|- - Whipstitch   QUOTE (Ascalaphus @ Nov 5 2010, 07:34 PM)...   Nov 6 2010, 01:42 AM
- - thezombiekat   Even if I had all the banishing foci I probably wo...   Nov 6 2010, 12:57 AM


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