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post Nov 9 2010, 02:59 AM
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So I've heard of Pornomancers, and from a Google trip I basically got the idea that it was a build from SR3 that rolled up to 50 dice for social tests (and I really wanted to say over 9,000). I started wondering, "How can we do that in SR4?" So I tried. Also, if anyone knows what techniques the original gangsters used to make these beasts, it would be illuminating.
Note- this is for a 400 BP build and I omitted the non-social factors. Assume -35 BP of Negative Qualities. Also, let it be noted that my build has 10 Gymnastics Dodge dice.

Race:
Elf

Qualities:
Adept
Mentor Spirit (Gryphon)
First Impression
Linguist
Class III Surge
Glamour
Vorneronasal Organ
Symbiosis - -10 BP

Attributes:
Charisma 8/9 (11/13)
Magic 5/6 (4/5)

Skills:
Influence 4

Magic:
Kinesics 4
Linguistics
Commanding Voice
Improved Leadership 2
Enthralling Performance (Singing)
Voice Control

Bioware: 1 Ess worth
Tailored Phermones 3 - .6 Ess
Genetic Optimization (Charisma) - .2 Ess
Enhanced Pheremone Receptors - .1 Ess

Gear:
Doses of eX

All in all, that makes for, by my calculations, around 27-30 Dice for social tests. Here's how:
4 (Influence) + 8 (Charisma) + 3 (Glamour) + 1 (Voice Control *1) + 2 (Vorneronasal Organ) + 4 (Kinesics) + 3 (Tailored Pheremones) + 2 (Enhanced Pheremone Receptors) [+ 2 (Improved Leadership) + 2 (Gryphon)] {+ 1 (eX) + 1 (Symbiosis *2) + 1 (First Impression)} = 27 {30} Influence (31 {34} Leadership)
*1 Voice Modulation bioware from Augmentation suggests that, at GM's discretion, an owner's social tests may be modified by + 1 if a listener can hear and understand the speaker, and Voice Modulation bioware and cyberware are exactly the same as an adept's Voice Control, if not inferior, IMHO.
*2 I believe the Symbiosis description suggests that a "victim" may be granted positive social modifiers with those who live in the area that the user is attuned to.
The Leadership dice are used when using the Commanding Voice adept power.

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- PresentPresence   Pornomancers - How do they work?   Nov 9 2010, 02:59 AM
- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   I believe the current Cap for the Pornomancer in 4...   Nov 9 2010, 03:01 AM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Nov 9 2010, 05...   Nov 9 2010, 07:34 AM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (PresentPresence @ Nov 8 2010, 09:5...   Nov 9 2010, 03:37 AM
- - Jizmack   Well, ok, but the targeted character or NPC would ...   Nov 9 2010, 04:19 AM
- - Yerameyahu   That's true. This has always been much more a ...   Nov 9 2010, 04:23 AM
- - Karoline   I though pornomancer made use of commanding voice ...   Nov 9 2010, 04:27 AM
|- - Glyph   QUOTE (Karoline @ Nov 8 2010, 08:27 PM) I...   Nov 9 2010, 05:15 AM
- - Yerameyahu   That's not really what that power does, though...   Nov 9 2010, 04:29 AM
- - tagz   I always looked at the build as "wasted extra...   Nov 9 2010, 04:31 AM
- - Yerameyahu   It's the math. Optimization is for the challen...   Nov 9 2010, 04:33 AM
- - Mongoose   Yeah, but a lot of the maxed out pornomancer dice ...   Nov 9 2010, 05:03 AM
|- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (Mongoose @ Nov 9 2010, 12:03 AM) A...   Nov 9 2010, 01:05 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Preaching to the choir. I'm just pointing out ...   Nov 9 2010, 05:05 AM
- - Makki   QUOTE (PresentPresence @ Nov 9 2010, 05:5...   Nov 9 2010, 06:42 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Honestly, I can't imagine Heightened Concentra...   Nov 9 2010, 06:45 AM
- - hobgoblin   The best part about the pornomancer was the descri...   Nov 9 2010, 06:53 AM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (hobgoblin @ Nov 9 2010, 02:53 PM) ...   Nov 9 2010, 07:04 AM
- - Glyph   My favorite part was when Frackula named it. ...   Nov 9 2010, 07:09 AM
- - PresentPresence   Woof, I missed out! Forgot about the 6 extra d...   Nov 9 2010, 01:23 PM
|- - Makki   QUOTE (PresentPresence @ Nov 9 2010, 04:2...   Nov 9 2010, 01:26 PM
|- - Makki   damn dp   Nov 9 2010, 01:26 PM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (PresentPresence @ Nov 9 2010, 03:2...   Nov 9 2010, 01:27 PM
- - Medicineman   welll,hmmm Guys You know that the Pool is capped b...   Nov 9 2010, 10:17 PM
- - Yerameyahu   And in this case, the natural attribute is like 10...   Nov 9 2010, 10:19 PM
- - PresentPresence   Man, surged Dryad? That's like, redoodoodiculo...   Nov 10 2010, 02:13 AM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (PresentPresence @ Nov 10 2010, 10...   Nov 10 2010, 02:42 AM
- - Glyph   @Medicineman: Remember, that's an optional rul...   Nov 10 2010, 02:50 AM
|- - hobgoblin   QUOTE (Glyph @ Nov 10 2010, 03:50 AM) @Me...   Nov 10 2010, 10:57 AM
- - PresentPresence   I suppose I did exaggerate a bit, but I agree with...   Nov 10 2010, 03:05 AM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (PresentPresence @ Nov 10 2010, 11...   Nov 10 2010, 03:16 AM
||- - PresentPresence   QUOTE (toturi @ Nov 9 2010, 10:16 PM) But...   Nov 10 2010, 03:39 AM
||- - toturi   QUOTE (PresentPresence @ Nov 10 2010, 11...   Nov 10 2010, 03:40 AM
|- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (PresentPresence @ Nov 9 2010, 10:0...   Nov 10 2010, 04:03 AM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (PresentPresence @ Nov 9 2010, 07:0...   Nov 10 2010, 08:27 AM
- - Glyph   Yeah, the pornomancer isn't a full-bore face. ...   Nov 10 2010, 04:56 AM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (Glyph @ Nov 10 2010, 12:56 PM) How...   Nov 10 2010, 06:34 AM
- - Kagetenshi   Con-based skills with insane modifiers are a compl...   Nov 10 2010, 05:14 AM
- - StealthSigma   The pornomancer works by dying, preferably in the ...   Nov 10 2010, 12:23 PM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (StealthSigma @ Nov 10 2010, 04:23 ...   Nov 10 2010, 09:07 PM
- - sabs   Whats wrong with cocooned riggers?   Nov 10 2010, 09:08 PM
- - Zyerne   Or speed sammies?   Nov 10 2010, 09:19 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Obviously, the problem with 'cocooned riggers...   Nov 10 2010, 09:26 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Nov 10 2010, 02:26 PM...   Nov 10 2010, 11:43 PM
- - The Grue Master   The thing about characters who are singular in the...   Nov 10 2010, 11:59 PM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (The Grue Master @ Nov 10 2010, 03...   Nov 11 2010, 03:12 AM
|- - etherial   QUOTE (Cain @ Nov 10 2010, 10:12 PM) The ...   Nov 11 2010, 05:01 AM
- - Christian Lafay   Which is why you end up with movie style teams. Fi...   Nov 11 2010, 01:38 AM
- - PresentPresence   After reading, I think I am beginning to agree tha...   Nov 11 2010, 02:41 AM
|- - Karoline   QUOTE (PresentPresence @ Nov 10 2010, 09...   Nov 11 2010, 02:54 AM
- - Glyph   That's my own personal PC design philosophy - ...   Nov 11 2010, 02:58 AM
- - KarmaInferno   Specialization is good. Having a secondary skill ...   Nov 11 2010, 03:34 AM
- - Cain   QUOTE (Glyph @ Nov 10 2010, 06:58 PM) Tha...   Nov 11 2010, 04:10 AM
- - Glyph   QUOTE (Cain @ Nov 10 2010, 08:10 PM) Both...   Nov 11 2010, 06:04 AM


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