Dec 4 2010, 03:42 AM
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It seems to be every so popular a dump stat these days, as it doesn't show up in tests made all that commonly.
However it's pretty weak. And in principle limits you drastically before tests and penalites ensue. So I figured I'd look up some weights and share. grenade - about a half kilo pistol -little over a kilo AK-47, loaded - just under five kilos (but if you add an underbarrel grenade launcher or much for accessories it'll be over 5) Barret M82 sniper rifle - nearly 15kg all on its own! Basic clothing, pocket contents, and shoes - 1-2 Kg (or more, if those boots are horrershow) Modern lighter armored vest (guestimate for form fitting body armor half suit) 3+kg modern armed jacket (yeah they sell those now) 3+ kg Obviously a str1 character will have to pick their gear carefully. But what do you think about things like doing a chin up and that sort of thing? I figure the climbing rules apply when you can get your feet involved, but what about when you can't so much? I figure that applies beyond strength one. For example a strength 3 but bod9 orc with some gear. Actually would you modify climbing tests by just the standard -1 for going over the weight limit? Any other actions people might take for granted that these physically challenged individuals might need to be concerned about? |
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sunnyside The strength one life Dec 4 2010, 03:42 AM
Glyph Someone with Strength:1 can carry 10 kg (about 22 ... Dec 4 2010, 05:43 AM
SpellBinder Would love to see a Strength 1 character try and d... Dec 4 2010, 05:45 AM
Glyph It would have been even funnier if he couldn't... Dec 4 2010, 05:49 AM
Redcrow As a GM I really enjoy when players do silly thing... Dec 4 2010, 06:01 AM
Jhaiisiin Weren't weights pretty much eliminated in SR4?... Dec 4 2010, 06:16 AM
Aku QUOTE (Jhaiisiin @ Dec 4 2010, 01:16 AM) ... Dec 4 2010, 08:21 AM
Medicineman Strength is damned important for the Athletic Grou... Dec 4 2010, 06:59 AM
LurkerOutThere While i agree that i'd rather see strength use... Dec 4 2010, 07:53 AM
SpellBinder Personally I like the idea of not having to microm... Dec 4 2010, 09:39 AM
Megu QUOTE (SpellBinder @ Dec 4 2010, 04:39 AM... Dec 5 2010, 02:59 AM
Aku not having to micromanage is good, yes, but at the... Dec 4 2010, 10:33 AM
UmaroVI Honestly, you could fix this by just saying ... Dec 4 2010, 01:06 PM
Karoline QUOTE (UmaroVI @ Dec 4 2010, 08:06 AM) Ho... Dec 4 2010, 02:54 PM
Kagetenshi QUOTE (Karoline @ Dec 4 2010, 09:54 AM) W... Dec 4 2010, 03:38 PM
J. Packer QUOTE (Kagetenshi @ Dec 4 2010, 08:38 AM)... Dec 4 2010, 03:50 PM
Karoline QUOTE (Kagetenshi @ Dec 4 2010, 10:38 AM)... Dec 4 2010, 04:26 PM
Faraday As far as encumbrance is concerned, I'd only w... Dec 4 2010, 02:56 PM
Karoline QUOTE (Faraday @ Dec 4 2010, 09:56 AM) As... Dec 4 2010, 03:06 PM
Zyerne OTOH, mages and TMs will notice the effects of an ... Dec 4 2010, 03:14 PM
Karoline QUOTE (Zyerne @ Dec 4 2010, 10:14 AM) OTO... Dec 4 2010, 03:17 PM
Zyerne Granted it will have a bigger effect as a percenta... Dec 4 2010, 03:27 PM
Squiddy Attack Besides, pushing or dragging something heavy is mu... Dec 4 2010, 04:43 PM
Karoline QUOTE (Squiddy Attack @ Dec 4 2010, 11:43... Dec 4 2010, 05:00 PM
Link I don't think STR has become todays 'dump ... Dec 4 2010, 05:35 PM
Jaid QUOTE (Link @ Dec 4 2010, 12:35 PM) I don... Dec 4 2010, 07:31 PM
Karoline QUOTE (Jaid @ Dec 4 2010, 02:31 PM) sure,... Dec 4 2010, 07:50 PM
Whipstitch Even weight lifting can be as much (if not more) a... Dec 4 2010, 08:16 PM
Summerstorm No character (well, no PLAYED shadowrunner charact... Dec 4 2010, 11:45 PM
Karoline QUOTE (Summerstorm @ Dec 4 2010, 06:45 PM... Dec 5 2010, 02:19 AM
toturi QUOTE (Karoline @ Dec 5 2010, 10:19 AM) T... Dec 5 2010, 03:35 AM
Aku Well, this is part of the problem with such a narr... Dec 5 2010, 02:31 AM
Whipstitch A low Willpower stat is also an easy one to justif... Dec 5 2010, 03:06 AM
Karoline I considered that Whipstitch, but my problem with ... Dec 5 2010, 03:26 AM
Whipstitch QUOTE (Karoline @ Dec 4 2010, 11:26 PM) I... Dec 5 2010, 04:58 AM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Karoline @ Dec 4 2010, 08:26 PM) A... Dec 5 2010, 06:03 PM
Summerstorm I don't have anything against stats on 2... Ra... Dec 5 2010, 03:36 AM
Karoline QUOTE (Summerstorm @ Dec 4 2010, 10:36 PM... Dec 5 2010, 03:46 PM
Glyph Plus, again, this "huge difference" is 1... Dec 5 2010, 05:48 AM
Manunancy QUOTE (Glyph @ Dec 5 2010, 06:48 AM) An A... Dec 5 2010, 07:34 AM
Summerstorm In costs yes, in impact for chances: no.
two is D... Dec 5 2010, 04:17 PM
Squiddy Attack QUOTE (Summerstorm @ Dec 5 2010, 08:17 AM... Dec 5 2010, 04:56 PM
Red-ROM The argument for low strength can probably be made... Dec 5 2010, 06:11 PM
sunnyside I don't so much think of it as punishing chara... Dec 6 2010, 03:17 AM
Whipstitch All I'd require is a Climbing check, given tha... Dec 6 2010, 03:59 AM
Sponge You need more Running in your Shadowrun. Dec 6 2010, 03:59 AM
Ascalaphus I don't think people should be punished for ta... Dec 6 2010, 10:28 AM
Smokeskin Armor encumbrance really should be Str+Body.
Stren... Dec 6 2010, 10:59 AM
Karoline I don't have more than a strength of 1 or 2 in... Dec 6 2010, 11:30 AM
Smokeskin QUOTE (Karoline @ Dec 6 2010, 12:30 PM) I... Dec 6 2010, 12:09 PM
HunterHerne QUOTE (Karoline @ Dec 6 2010, 07:30 AM) I... Dec 6 2010, 12:47 PM
sunnyside QUOTE (Karoline @ Dec 6 2010, 06:30 AM) A... Dec 6 2010, 08:55 PM
Inncubi I will start this post with a caveat. This is my ... Dec 6 2010, 02:38 PM
squee_nabob Also, in Shadow Run, you can always command your h... Dec 6 2010, 03:16 PM
Karoline @Inncubi I like your setup more or less, but it se... Dec 6 2010, 03:24 PM
Inncubi QUOTE (Karoline @ Dec 6 2010, 10:24 AM) @... Dec 6 2010, 05:10 PM
Sponge QUOTE (Karoline @ Dec 6 2010, 10:24 AM) @... Dec 6 2010, 08:17 PM
Kagetenshi QUOTE (Sponge @ Dec 6 2010, 03:17 PM) Als... Dec 6 2010, 08:31 PM

Sponge QUOTE (Kagetenshi @ Dec 6 2010, 03:31 PM)... Dec 6 2010, 08:39 PM

sabs QUOTE (Kagetenshi @ Dec 6 2010, 09:31 PM)... Dec 6 2010, 08:52 PM
Karoline QUOTE (Sponge @ Dec 6 2010, 03:17 PM) Con... Dec 7 2010, 06:51 AM
Smokeskin QUOTE (Karoline @ Dec 7 2010, 07:51 AM) S... Dec 7 2010, 08:27 AM
Kagetenshi QUOTE (Sponge @ Dec 6 2010, 03:39 PM) Yes... Dec 6 2010, 09:04 PM
sunnyside QUOTE (Kagetenshi @ Dec 6 2010, 04:04 PM)... Dec 6 2010, 10:39 PM
Kagetenshi QUOTE (sunnyside @ Dec 6 2010, 05:39 PM) ... Dec 6 2010, 11:06 PM
Whipstitch I'm of the opinion that the attribute rules ar... Dec 6 2010, 10:36 PM
Ascalaphus I do hope you're not advocating actual equipme... Dec 7 2010, 12:08 AM
Aku Funny thought:If you consider doing a chin up lift... Dec 7 2010, 01:51 AM
toturi QUOTE (Aku @ Dec 7 2010, 09:51 AM) Funny ... Dec 7 2010, 02:13 AM
sunnyside QUOTE (Kagetenshi @ Dec 6 2010, 06:06 PM)... Dec 7 2010, 04:40 AM
Kagetenshi QUOTE (Ascalaphus @ Dec 6 2010, 07:08 PM)... Dec 7 2010, 06:53 AM
Aku QUOTE (sunnyside @ Dec 6 2010, 11:40 PM) ... Dec 7 2010, 02:13 PM
Karoline QUOTE (Aku @ Dec 7 2010, 09:13 AM) Nope, ... Dec 7 2010, 02:25 PM
Cube Where the he'll do Orks and Trolls fall into t... Dec 7 2010, 06:32 AM
Karoline QUOTE (Cube @ Dec 7 2010, 01:32 AM) Where... Dec 7 2010, 06:53 AM
Ascalaphus QUOTE (Kagetenshi @ Dec 7 2010, 08:53 AM)... Dec 7 2010, 12:29 PM
sabs Except of course you'll find that serious shoo... Dec 7 2010, 03:50 PM
Smokeskin QUOTE (sabs @ Dec 7 2010, 04:50 PM) Excep... Dec 7 2010, 06:38 PM
Karoline And yet you can't represent that at all in the... Dec 7 2010, 04:22 PM
Inncubi I think that Karoline's arguments are the ones... Dec 7 2010, 05:04 PM
sabs a lifting test is actually str+body
you can lift... Dec 7 2010, 05:20 PM
Aku QUOTE (sabs @ Dec 7 2010, 12:20 PM) a lif... Dec 8 2010, 01:42 AM
Karoline Wait, doesn't a pushup and a benchpress work t... Dec 7 2010, 06:45 PM
Kagetenshi QUOTE (Karoline @ Dec 7 2010, 01:45 PM) W... Dec 7 2010, 07:11 PM

Karoline QUOTE (Kagetenshi @ Dec 7 2010, 02:11 PM)... Dec 7 2010, 07:15 PM
Smokeskin QUOTE (Karoline @ Dec 7 2010, 07:45 PM) W... Dec 8 2010, 09:13 AM
Karoline QUOTE (Smokeskin @ Dec 8 2010, 04:13 AM) ... Dec 8 2010, 02:43 PM
Kagetenshi QUOTE (Karoline @ Dec 8 2010, 09:43 AM) W... Dec 8 2010, 03:38 PM
Apathy Part of the problem here is that we're trying ... Dec 7 2010, 06:55 PM
sunnyside Alright. So lets see if I've got the gist of ... Dec 7 2010, 08:34 PM
Inncubi QUOTE (sunnyside @ Dec 7 2010, 03:34 PM) ... Dec 7 2010, 10:44 PM
sunnyside I mean lets say you have a character with strength... Dec 7 2010, 11:08 PM
Faraday QUOTE (sunnyside @ Dec 7 2010, 05:08 PM) ... Dec 8 2010, 03:13 PM
Karoline That's true, but most people don't do pull... Dec 8 2010, 04:45 PM
Doc Chase QUOTE (Karoline @ Dec 8 2010, 05:45 PM) T... Dec 8 2010, 04:46 PM
Karoline That would require me to be able to hang by a sing... Dec 8 2010, 04:50 PM
Doc Chase QUOTE (Karoline @ Dec 8 2010, 04:50 PM) T... Dec 8 2010, 05:58 PM
sgtbarnes_ky One thing i've noticed here is that people kee... Dec 8 2010, 06:39 PM
sunnyside The bulk thing slaps bod 1 characters pretty hard ... Dec 8 2010, 09:47 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (sunnyside @ Dec 8 2010, 02:47 PM) ... Dec 9 2010, 02:33 AM![]() ![]() |
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