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hermit
post Dec 18 2010, 08:44 AM
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Hi.

Somewhere in the angry, angry thread on the recently released clusterfuck sourcebook War, someone suggested we just write our own book about war, much improved. I say: let's.

Project Outline
This project is to cover War in Shadowrun, as well as the War between Amazonia and Aztlan.

For the first, it will offer a rundown on how military in SR works, what the status of corporate and governmental military forces is, how they operate, and detail a couple of military units from around the world, both corporate and governmental (and probably some religious or independent). Also, it should detail a couple of mercenary firms and give an insight on what life as part of a giant army for hire is like, and tactics for shadowrun troops - use of drones, magic, and matrix warfare ought to be detailed here (including an insight on the current powers in those fields). Maybe also a primer on how to fight in different theaters, what to take to Russia and what to take to Amazonia, or something. This should comprise roughly a third of the book.

The second part is to contain Info on the war, it's beginning and proceeding, complete with maps, diagrams, descriptions of participating units and armies on individual, unit and global level, warzones and maybe fiction outlining how the waqr feels for someone on every side of the conflict. This should be a bit shorter than the general part, but still offer enough information to make sense of this war.

Maybe a third part, detailing other war zones, also is a good idea. Random ideas would be: Israel/Arabia, Russia/Yakut (both have been laid out as wars waiting to happen before), Southeast Asia (Nagas, French, locals ...), Desert Wars and RadWars, and ... well, suggestions of course are welcome.

And finally, gear. Here I would like to revise the stuff from War and add other stuff that feels missing, like actual Aztechnology-produced small arms (they're supposed to be the world's second-largest producer of small arms, but there are no actual Aztech named guns anywhere, what the fuck).

Those are, of course, only suggestions, and neither do I claim to be the king of this project. I'm open to any suggestions and help.

Any takers?
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- hermit   alt.WAR   Dec 18 2010, 08:44 AM
- - sabs   I'm tired of not finding this so I'm editi...   Dec 18 2010, 12:31 PM
- - hermit   Or RadWars. Yes, that needs to go in too. Edited t...   Dec 18 2010, 12:35 PM
- - Brazilian_Shinobi   While not native of the rain forest, I'm a nat...   Dec 18 2010, 11:18 PM
- - Nath   QUOTE (hermit @ Dec 18 2010, 09:44 AM) ac...   Dec 18 2010, 11:26 PM
- - Antumbra   Well, there are several posters who are involved w...   Dec 19 2010, 06:07 AM
- - Grinder   Which War Zones should be covered? hermit opted fo...   Dec 19 2010, 09:14 AM
- - Grinder   Check this out: (and yes, written by Frank Trollm...   Dec 19 2010, 09:31 AM
- - hermit   Firstly, welcome aboard to everyone who came while...   Dec 19 2010, 09:58 AM
|- - Nath   QUOTE (hermit @ Dec 18 2010, 09:44 AM) ac...   Dec 19 2010, 11:37 PM
- - sabs   I think the "hot zones" should be: Dese...   Dec 19 2010, 02:12 PM
|- - Grinder   QUOTE (sabs @ Dec 19 2010, 03:12 PM) I th...   Dec 19 2010, 11:01 PM
|- - Arclight   QUOTE (Grinder @ Dec 19 2010, 11:01 PM) L...   Dec 20 2010, 11:16 AM
- - hermit   Paris is a prime setting for alt.Spy Games though....   Dec 19 2010, 02:59 PM
- - Neurosis   This seems like something I would like to get in o...   Dec 19 2010, 09:08 PM
- - hermit   Ah, so you can proofread and polish. Awesome. I...   Dec 19 2010, 09:19 PM
- - Neurosis   No, I don't have any familiarity with cyberpun...   Dec 19 2010, 09:31 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE No, I don't have any familiarity with cy...   Dec 19 2010, 09:33 PM
- - Neurosis   Well, if you want to set it up on neutral ground (...   Dec 19 2010, 09:38 PM
- - hermit   Thanks. I might take that offer up. ^_^   Dec 19 2010, 09:44 PM
- - hermit   Lisbon has never been covered again. Lisbon and a ...   Dec 19 2010, 11:27 PM
- - Blade   I guess it'd be a good idea to make sure CGL w...   Dec 20 2010, 07:21 AM
- - hermit   A prelim announcement: I'll set up a Forum for...   Dec 20 2010, 07:57 AM
- - Grinder   You could shoot Redjack an email and ask if he wou...   Dec 20 2010, 08:38 AM
- - sabs   And I wouldn't do a big Lagos write up. I wou...   Dec 20 2010, 02:10 PM
- - Stahlseele   Isn't lagos simply the biggest black market fo...   Dec 20 2010, 02:35 PM
- - Chance359   I would like to help with this project. I've ...   Dec 20 2010, 02:37 PM
- - sabs   Lagos could just be where most Merc companies do t...   Dec 20 2010, 02:44 PM
- - Doc Chase   The way I see Lagos... It's one of those plac...   Dec 20 2010, 04:00 PM
- - sabs   I have an idea in mind for a proto-beast master(fr...   Dec 20 2010, 04:12 PM
- - Doc Chase   Parts of War! describe the Amazonians as alrea...   Dec 20 2010, 04:23 PM
- - sabs   Yeah, I know they're using paracritters.. I ju...   Dec 20 2010, 04:46 PM
- - Doc Chase   I would agree, which is why I like your idea. Th...   Dec 20 2010, 04:51 PM
- - sabs   Can you imagine though moving through tight ravine...   Dec 20 2010, 05:01 PM
- - Brazilian_Shinobi   Yeah, that area makes the Amazonian highlands. Whi...   Dec 20 2010, 05:42 PM
- - sabs   And we need a better reason for the war than.. The...   Dec 20 2010, 06:00 PM
|- - Grinder   QUOTE (sabs @ Dec 20 2010, 07:00 PM) And ...   Dec 20 2010, 09:06 PM
|- - Doc Chase   QUOTE (Grinder @ Dec 20 2010, 09:06 PM) O...   Dec 20 2010, 09:15 PM
- - sabs   I'm looking at the map of South America, and I...   Dec 20 2010, 06:16 PM
- - Doc Chase   To be honest, I'm seeing the demarcation line ...   Dec 20 2010, 06:34 PM
- - sabs   So you think the combat zone is the Cordirellas, f...   Dec 20 2010, 07:04 PM
- - Doc Chase   I think that was the case before the tanks rolled ...   Dec 20 2010, 07:17 PM
- - sabs   The thing is, I'm looking at Bogota.. there...   Dec 20 2010, 07:29 PM
- - Doc Chase   Yeah, I've got a map I'm looking at as wel...   Dec 20 2010, 07:38 PM
- - sabs   Well part of the project is to ignore War complete...   Dec 20 2010, 07:54 PM
- - Doc Chase   Maracaibo is going to be a major hotspot. Amazoni...   Dec 20 2010, 08:21 PM
- - sabs   I completely agree with you. The problem is that ...   Dec 20 2010, 08:34 PM
|- - Doc Chase   QUOTE (sabs @ Dec 20 2010, 09:34 PM) I co...   Dec 20 2010, 08:43 PM
|- - sabs   QUOTE (Doc Chase @ Dec 20 2010, 08:43 PM)...   Dec 20 2010, 08:51 PM
- - Yerameyahu   You should call it the Netbook of War. Classic. ...   Dec 20 2010, 08:35 PM
- - Doc Chase   Give me a second, had to get a second cup of coffe...   Dec 20 2010, 09:03 PM
- - sabs   Yeah, I get why Aztlan would want the basin. But ...   Dec 20 2010, 09:18 PM
- - sabs   Ancient Power Sites Magical Ingredients and compon...   Dec 20 2010, 09:24 PM
|- - Grinder   QUOTE (sabs @ Dec 20 2010, 10:24 PM) Anci...   Dec 21 2010, 03:00 AM
|- - Grinder   QUOTE (Grinder @ Dec 21 2010, 04:00 AM) W...   Dec 21 2010, 01:49 PM
- - Doc Chase   Aztlan has proved they can take down dragons. Wha...   Dec 20 2010, 09:33 PM
- - sabs   That's certainly acceptable motivation for Azt...   Dec 20 2010, 09:42 PM
|- - Brazilian_Shinobi   QUOTE (sabs @ Dec 20 2010, 06:42 PM) That...   Dec 20 2010, 10:05 PM
- - Doc Chase   It would make sense to take it as a staging point,...   Dec 20 2010, 09:48 PM
- - sabs   Yes, but Bogota looks more like an Israeli city. ...   Dec 20 2010, 09:55 PM
- - sabs   Caracas is managing to stay a Free City because of...   Dec 20 2010, 09:56 PM
|- - Doc Chase   QUOTE (sabs @ Dec 20 2010, 09:56 PM) Cara...   Dec 20 2010, 10:06 PM
|- - Brazilian_Shinobi   QUOTE (sabs @ Dec 20 2010, 06:56 PM) Cara...   Dec 20 2010, 10:08 PM
- - sabs   I only have Google Maps to look at, and I've n...   Dec 20 2010, 10:11 PM
- - Brazilian_Shinobi   Well, Cali is mentioned as being attacked by Sirru...   Dec 20 2010, 10:23 PM
- - sabs   That I like There's a Forward base in ... Vi...   Dec 20 2010, 10:30 PM
- - Brazilian_Shinobi   Yes, Cali is one of the cities that belong inside ...   Dec 20 2010, 10:42 PM
- - Nath   Whatever remains of Colombian and Venezuelian offs...   Dec 20 2010, 11:01 PM
- - hermit   Yeah, Bogota is an odd place for the center of thi...   Dec 20 2010, 11:04 PM
- - sabs   I honestly think that Caracas needs to stay a free...   Dec 21 2010, 12:38 AM
- - sabs   Mariacabos and Caracas make /much/ more sense as t...   Dec 21 2010, 03:21 AM
|- - Kot   QUOTE Nice. Maybe they're looking for an aband...   Dec 21 2010, 09:58 AM
- - hermit   QUOTE I honestly think that Caracas needs to stay ...   Dec 21 2010, 08:14 AM
|- - Grinder   QUOTE (hermit @ Dec 21 2010, 09:14 AM) Th...   Dec 21 2010, 01:48 PM
- - lokii   Since some of you go on about how there are no map...   Dec 21 2010, 10:03 AM
- - sabs   The problem with that Map from the lovely Germans....   Dec 21 2010, 11:37 AM
|- - lokii   QUOTE (sabs @ Dec 21 2010, 12:37 PM) The ...   Dec 21 2010, 12:46 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE Maybe even just one. If we ignore the botche...   Dec 21 2010, 01:14 PM
- - Brazilian_Shinobi   I think we've hit a fork on the road here. We...   Dec 21 2010, 01:45 PM
|- - Grinder   QUOTE (Brazilian_Shinobi @ Dec 21 2010, 02...   Dec 21 2010, 01:47 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE Yeah, the Dumpshockers are gradually realizi...   Dec 21 2010, 02:01 PM
- - Grinder   Yup. We need to get an outline of the Aztlan-Ama...   Dec 21 2010, 02:07 PM
- - hermit   I'd prefer a timeline for the beginning. Which...   Dec 21 2010, 02:26 PM
- - Grinder   Plus add reasonable motivations for Atzlan to star...   Dec 21 2010, 02:27 PM
|- - Kot   QUOTE (Grinder @ Dec 21 2010, 03:27 PM) P...   Dec 21 2010, 03:05 PM
|- - Grinder   QUOTE (Kot @ Dec 21 2010, 04:05 PM) Getti...   Dec 21 2010, 03:08 PM
- - hermit   Plus that, but that does not belong into a timelin...   Dec 21 2010, 02:46 PM
|- - Brazilian_Shinobi   QUOTE (hermit @ Dec 21 2010, 11:46 AM) Pl...   Dec 21 2010, 02:47 PM
- - Brazilian_Shinobi   Reasonable motivations abound. For both sides. The...   Dec 21 2010, 02:46 PM
|- - Grinder   QUOTE (Brazilian_Shinobi @ Dec 21 2010, 03...   Dec 21 2010, 03:01 PM
- - hermit   I dunno. Or at least play it down (like, they sell...   Dec 21 2010, 03:05 PM
- - Grinder   Agreed.   Dec 21 2010, 03:07 PM
- - Doc Chase   I forget - who won the contract on the Star Ladder...   Dec 21 2010, 03:10 PM
- - Kot   Hell, why not all of these? A few serious reasons ...   Dec 21 2010, 03:20 PM
- - Grinder   Yup, think so too. We just need to keep them all i...   Dec 21 2010, 03:21 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE For the lulz? The evulz! So, this is wh...   Dec 21 2010, 03:26 PM
- - sabs   Aztlan reasons for going to war: 1) A power play b...   Dec 21 2010, 03:30 PM
|- - Grinder   QUOTE (sabs @ Dec 21 2010, 04:30 PM) Aztl...   Dec 21 2010, 03:53 PM
- - Stahlseele   What's this about the skyhook? O.o   Dec 21 2010, 03:36 PM
- - sabs   Skyhook doesn't work in south america, weather...   Dec 21 2010, 03:47 PM
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