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Blade
post Dec 23 2010, 09:41 AM
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Hi Dumpshock,

Vice was "meh", Corp Guide and 6WA were subpar and filled with mistake and War is one of Shadowrun worst books ever.
There are problems with the content, there are problems with the editing. We, as long time fans of Shadowrun, can't let that go on.

What do you do when you get a product that isn't satisfactory? You complain to the company.

Some people in the French-speaking community had the idea of sending a letter to CGL and/or Jason Hardy to express their concerns with the way the line is going and we think that it'd have a bigger impact if the English and German community, including the biggest names, joined us.

Anyone interested?
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- Blade   Fan letter to CGL   Dec 23 2010, 09:41 AM
- - hermit   If you want to, send them to CGL or, even better y...   Dec 23 2010, 09:50 AM
|- - Sengir   QUOTE (hermit @ Dec 23 2010, 10:50 AM) Ev...   Dec 23 2010, 03:39 PM
- - Medicineman   Anyone interested? I would sign such a Petition t...   Dec 23 2010, 10:03 AM
- - Stahlseele   Doesn't mean i won't support this. Just be...   Dec 23 2010, 10:09 AM
|- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Dec 23 2010, 05:09 AM...   Dec 23 2010, 03:32 PM
- - hermit   Thank you.   Dec 23 2010, 10:11 AM
- - Medicineman   I know that we can count on You So,Pegasus,SR-Ne...   Dec 23 2010, 10:12 AM
- - Blade   Thank you for your support. Sending it to Topps to...   Dec 23 2010, 11:02 AM
- - Kot   Sending it to both CGL and Topps would be wise.   Dec 23 2010, 12:52 PM
- - sabs   And do try to be diplomatic when you tell them the...   Dec 23 2010, 01:50 PM
|- - CanRay   QUOTE (sabs @ Dec 23 2010, 09:50 AM) And ...   Dec 23 2010, 02:05 PM
- - TheMadderHatter   I have to wonder if this is an effective means of ...   Dec 23 2010, 02:06 PM
|- - Doc Chase   QUOTE (TheMadderHatter @ Dec 23 2010, 02...   Dec 23 2010, 02:32 PM
- - CanRay   First, we don't buy products that are sub-par....   Dec 23 2010, 02:09 PM
- - Cthulhudreams   If you want a corporation to listen you need to ki...   Dec 23 2010, 02:35 PM
- - hermit   And even if they slap us with a C&D, it's ...   Dec 23 2010, 02:37 PM
- - Blade   QUOTE ("TheMadderHatter")a corporation i...   Dec 23 2010, 02:48 PM
- - nezumi   I've stopped following Shadowrun a while ago. ...   Dec 23 2010, 03:24 PM
- - klinktastic   I find it sad that CGL carries some of the best li...   Dec 23 2010, 03:32 PM
- - hermit   Topps might care, but I'd send the letter to b...   Dec 23 2010, 03:45 PM
- - Cheops   Setting and tone are things that rise above and be...   Dec 23 2010, 03:47 PM
|- - TheMadderHatter   QUOTE (Cheops @ Dec 23 2010, 10:47 AM) Th...   Dec 23 2010, 07:44 PM
- - nezumi   QUOTE (klinktastic @ Dec 23 2010, 10:32 A...   Dec 23 2010, 09:08 PM
|- - Adam   QUOTE (nezumi @ Dec 23 2010, 05:08 PM) Yo...   Dec 24 2010, 02:02 AM
- - Cheops   That's fine. My post was mostly just venting ...   Dec 23 2010, 09:10 PM
|- - TheMadderHatter   QUOTE (Cheops @ Dec 23 2010, 04:10 PM) Th...   Dec 23 2010, 09:26 PM
- - sabs   The bad grammar, the poor editing. The picture pl...   Dec 24 2010, 01:04 AM
|- - Method   QUOTE (sabs @ Dec 23 2010, 07:04 PM) The ...   Dec 26 2010, 08:10 PM
|- - fistandantilus4.0   QUOTE (Method @ Dec 26 2010, 03:10 PM) I ...   Dec 27 2010, 10:03 AM
|- - Semerkhet   QUOTE (Method @ Dec 26 2010, 02:10 PM) I ...   Dec 27 2010, 05:42 PM
- - ravensmuse   I'd sign, but honestly? A handwritten letter t...   Dec 24 2010, 02:15 AM
- - McDougle   IŽll sign right away! We gotta show them, tha...   Dec 24 2010, 12:02 PM
- - hermit   Problem is, the authors as well as the line direct...   Dec 26 2010, 08:51 PM
|- - Method   QUOTE (hermit @ Dec 26 2010, 02:51 PM) Pr...   Dec 26 2010, 09:00 PM
|- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (Method @ Dec 26 2010, 04:00 PM) I ...   Dec 26 2010, 10:01 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE It could be because they don't have good...   Dec 26 2010, 11:06 PM
|- - Critias   QUOTE (hermit @ Dec 26 2010, 06:06 PM) Th...   Dec 27 2010, 07:09 PM
|- - Sengir   QUOTE (Critias @ Dec 27 2010, 08:09 PM) J...   Dec 27 2010, 08:13 PM
|- - hobgoblin   QUOTE (Sengir @ Dec 27 2010, 09:13 PM) A ...   Dec 27 2010, 08:37 PM
|- - TheMadderHatter   QUOTE (hobgoblin @ Dec 27 2010, 03:37 PM)...   Dec 27 2010, 08:54 PM
- - Method   I guess I should clarify that I doubt they are obl...   Dec 26 2010, 11:15 PM
- - hermit   Okay, yes, that'd be a bit hard. I didn't ...   Dec 26 2010, 11:18 PM
- - TheMadderHatter   I don't know if they'd consider it trollin...   Dec 26 2010, 11:34 PM
|- - Sengir   QUOTE (TheMadderHatter @ Dec 27 2010, 12...   Dec 27 2010, 01:21 PM
|- - TheMadderHatter   QUOTE (Sengir @ Dec 27 2010, 08:21 AM) If...   Dec 27 2010, 02:10 PM
|- - Doc Chase   QUOTE (Sengir @ Dec 27 2010, 02:21 PM) If...   Dec 27 2010, 02:15 PM
- - hermit   The only statistical data available on that is sal...   Dec 26 2010, 11:38 PM
- - lehesu   To be fair, most people are averse to completely r...   Dec 27 2010, 12:21 AM
|- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (lehesu @ Dec 26 2010, 07:21 PM) To...   Dec 27 2010, 01:35 AM
- - CanRay   But that would require maturity and tact. Somethi...   Dec 27 2010, 12:32 AM
- - hermit   QUOTE To be fair, most people are averse to comple...   Dec 27 2010, 09:05 AM
|- - binarywraith   QUOTE (hermit @ Dec 27 2010, 03:05 AM) Su...   Dec 27 2010, 09:11 AM
- - hermit   They will not, becausse they want to sell a correc...   Dec 27 2010, 09:16 AM
- - hermit   This is relevant to this discussion.   Dec 27 2010, 11:34 AM
- - Cochise   ~erm~ hermit ... while it's sure interesting w...   Dec 27 2010, 11:56 AM
- - Cthulhudreams   A number of developers post on this forum, like Aa...   Dec 27 2010, 11:58 AM
- - ravensmuse   As always, Frank's info is interesting, but I...   Dec 27 2010, 01:51 PM
- - sabs   Except there have been enough lawsuits where they ...   Dec 27 2010, 02:14 PM
- - klinktastic   I'm friends with 2 CGL freelancers that work o...   Dec 27 2010, 03:36 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE As always, Frank's info is interesting, ...   Dec 27 2010, 04:21 PM
|- - Brazilian_Shinobi   QUOTE (hermit @ Dec 27 2010, 01:21 PM) So...   Dec 27 2010, 04:41 PM
|- - ravensmuse   QUOTE (hermit @ Dec 27 2010, 11:21 AM) So...   Dec 27 2010, 04:50 PM
|- - Stahlseele   QUOTE (hermit @ Dec 27 2010, 05:21 PM) So...   Dec 27 2010, 05:10 PM
- - hermit   Probably.   Dec 27 2010, 04:42 PM
- - hermit   Yeah. Because you do not need to know about magic ...   Dec 27 2010, 05:12 PM
- - Doc Chase   I don't think they'll ever make the Ancien...   Dec 27 2010, 05:16 PM
- - hermit   Yeah, because they really cannot divide betrween p...   Dec 27 2010, 05:25 PM
- - Stahlseele   Yeah, they basically lost their loremaster with hi...   Dec 27 2010, 05:25 PM
- - Adarael   I had written out a bunch of things in this thread...   Dec 27 2010, 06:27 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE But please don't assume your opinions ar...   Dec 27 2010, 06:38 PM
- - Adarael   Please re-read my post. You'll note I said, ...   Dec 27 2010, 06:43 PM
- - sabs   Why does CGL not have an internal Wiki with Time ...   Dec 27 2010, 06:45 PM
|- - Adam   QUOTE (sabs @ Dec 27 2010, 01:45 PM) Why ...   Dec 27 2010, 06:54 PM
- - hermit   Because CGL doesn't seem interested in maintai...   Dec 27 2010, 06:46 PM
- - Semerkhet   The errors that have driven me nuts in releases li...   Dec 27 2010, 06:48 PM
- - Adarael   Again: standards with regards to proofreading and ...   Dec 27 2010, 06:53 PM
|- - Semerkhet   QUOTE (Adarael @ Dec 27 2010, 12:53 PM) A...   Dec 27 2010, 06:55 PM
|- - Doc Chase   QUOTE (Semerkhet @ Dec 27 2010, 07:55 PM)...   Dec 27 2010, 07:14 PM
|- - Semerkhet   QUOTE (Doc Chase @ Dec 27 2010, 01:14 PM)...   Dec 27 2010, 07:23 PM
- - Adarael   Well, my team is some of the only people at work w...   Dec 27 2010, 07:27 PM
- - hermit   Critas, how are we supposed to bring forward criti...   Dec 27 2010, 07:42 PM
|- - Critias   QUOTE (hermit @ Dec 27 2010, 02:42 PM) Ma...   Dec 27 2010, 08:06 PM
|- - Adam   QUOTE (Critias @ Dec 27 2010, 04:06 PM) W...   Dec 27 2010, 08:16 PM
|- - sabs   QUOTE (Adam @ Dec 27 2010, 08:16 PM) I...   Dec 27 2010, 08:19 PM
- - Semerkhet   I read Aaron's replies in the other topic and ...   Dec 27 2010, 07:50 PM
- - tete   On the proofreading, I think generally speaking th...   Dec 27 2010, 07:52 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE I read Aaron's replies in the other topi...   Dec 27 2010, 07:52 PM
|- - Semerkhet   QUOTE (hermit @ Dec 27 2010, 01:52 PM) Ah...   Dec 27 2010, 08:03 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE I don't know what his PM's said but ...   Dec 27 2010, 08:07 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE Other than a polite, and vaguely sheepish, a...   Dec 27 2010, 08:30 PM
|- - Critias   QUOTE (hermit @ Dec 27 2010, 03:30 PM) It...   Dec 27 2010, 08:45 PM
|- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (Critias @ Dec 27 2010, 03:45 PM) T...   Dec 27 2010, 09:11 PM
|- - Semerkhet   QUOTE (Kagetenshi @ Dec 27 2010, 03:11 PM...   Dec 27 2010, 09:31 PM
- - Adarael   My favorite part about Frank is when he decides to...   Dec 27 2010, 08:40 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE But -- again -- that sub-chapter is being ar...   Dec 27 2010, 09:01 PM
- - hermit   What's with all these nautical allegories toda...   Dec 27 2010, 09:42 PM
|- - Semerkhet   QUOTE (hermit @ Dec 27 2010, 03:42 PM) Wh...   Dec 27 2010, 09:48 PM
|- - Brazilian_Shinobi   QUOTE (hermit @ Dec 27 2010, 06:42 PM) Wh...   Dec 27 2010, 09:54 PM
- - hermit   Oh, it was.   Dec 27 2010, 09:50 PM
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