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Neraph
post Dec 27 2010, 07:41 AM
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Ignoring the multiple grammatical errors and misspelled words I've found (but unfortunately not documented... I'll get to that some time) in WAR!, the book so far is a great read with lots of fun information in it. Let's also ignore the strange availability/cost problem (a 26F drone that's only 1.9k (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) ? Really?) for the moment. What we're left with is a very interesting problem in the new naval vessels section: ballast tanks. Now, these are not neccessarily indicative of a problem, but they are when they're added to nearly every ship (and by nearly I mean all but one) and only the submarine has life support. What does that mean? That means that when the Aircraft Carrier or the 120,000 metric ton cargo ship submerge all the seamen on board (and passangers, if any) drown if they don't have SCUBA gear.

Really? I mean, come on, they couldn't catch at least that one?

Although the ability to have a missile boat or aircraft carrier rise up out of the ocean as a sneak attack is greatly amusing, it would be better if the ships in question at least kept "skeleton crew" as a more figurative term.
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- Neraph   War! Kills Seamen   Dec 27 2010, 07:41 AM
- - Makki   Why are you running the shadows? - Because with Wa...   Dec 27 2010, 07:50 AM
- - Manunancy   I don't have the 'War' book and can...   Dec 27 2010, 08:39 AM
|- - Neraph   QUOTE (Manunancy @ Dec 27 2010, 02:39 AM)...   Dec 27 2010, 08:51 AM
|- - StealthSigma   QUOTE (Manunancy @ Dec 27 2010, 03:39 AM)...   Dec 27 2010, 01:49 PM
- - toturi   QUOTE (Neraph @ Dec 27 2010, 03:41 PM) Re...   Dec 27 2010, 08:46 AM
- - hermit   It's indicative of the depth of research and t...   Dec 27 2010, 09:11 AM
- - Seth   QUOTE Ballast tanks are neccessary to turn any wat...   Dec 27 2010, 09:49 AM
|- - Sengir   QUOTE (Seth @ Dec 27 2010, 10:49 AM) That...   Dec 27 2010, 11:13 AM
- - hermit   Well! Since required reading for prospective S...   Dec 27 2010, 11:38 AM
- - Sengir   Given the amount of canon and rules violations, th...   Dec 27 2010, 01:23 PM
- - Neraph   My entire point is that while in the real world it...   Dec 27 2010, 05:23 PM
- - pbangarth   Even for Dumpshock this is a silly argument.   Dec 27 2010, 05:29 PM
|- - WyldKnight   QUOTE (pbangarth @ Dec 27 2010, 09:29 AM)...   Dec 27 2010, 06:18 PM
||- - Doc Chase   QUOTE (WyldKnight @ Dec 27 2010, 06:18 PM...   Dec 27 2010, 06:22 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (pbangarth @ Dec 27 2010, 10:29 AM)...   Dec 28 2010, 03:18 AM
- - Dahrken   That is probably a case of bad copy/paste and no p...   Dec 27 2010, 05:32 PM
- - WyldKnight   I'm trying not to but this whole thread is sta...   Dec 27 2010, 06:26 PM
- - Adarael   I am in agreement with Dahrken's assesment of ...   Dec 27 2010, 06:29 PM
- - Tanegar   Pun Police, nobody move! WyldKnight, Doc Chas...   Dec 27 2010, 08:10 PM
|- - StealthSigma   QUOTE (Tanegar @ Dec 27 2010, 03:10 PM) Y...   Dec 27 2010, 08:21 PM
- - WyldKnight   I got to say the tide of justice is hard to fight ...   Dec 27 2010, 08:15 PM
- - Squiddy Attack   Mind the pundertow.   Dec 27 2010, 08:16 PM
- - pbangarth   That's swell! No matter how the rest of u...   Dec 27 2010, 08:21 PM
- - hobgoblin   put a trifork in me, i'm done...   Dec 27 2010, 08:22 PM
- - Brazilian_Shinobi   Oh my god, I'm being drowned by bad puns. Some...   Dec 27 2010, 08:25 PM
|- - StealthSigma   QUOTE (Brazilian_Shinobi @ Dec 27 2010, 03...   Dec 27 2010, 08:27 PM
- - nezumi   I'm sorry, that one seems weak. It won't f...   Dec 27 2010, 08:59 PM
|- - StealthSigma   QUOTE (nezumi @ Dec 27 2010, 03:59 PM) I...   Dec 27 2010, 09:52 PM
- - WyldKnight   All it took was one and now the puns own this thre...   Dec 27 2010, 09:02 PM
- - hobgoblin   there she blows!   Dec 27 2010, 09:04 PM
- - WyldKnight   Was there ever a topic to this thread? Oh right, w...   Dec 27 2010, 09:07 PM
- - Stahlseele   Well, the Titanic, the Bismark and the Yamato will...   Dec 27 2010, 09:08 PM
- - hermit   We should take the wind out of the sails of those ...   Dec 27 2010, 09:15 PM
|- - Stahlseele   QUOTE (hermit @ Dec 27 2010, 10:15 PM) We...   Dec 27 2010, 09:26 PM
|- - Sengir   QUOTE (hermit @ Dec 27 2010, 10:15 PM) We...   Dec 27 2010, 09:33 PM
|- - Squiddy Attack   QUOTE (Sengir @ Dec 27 2010, 01:33 PM) Ho...   Dec 27 2010, 09:49 PM
- - WyldKnight   I would have taken it seriously if you hadn't ...   Dec 27 2010, 09:20 PM
- - hermit   Ow! My seamen!   Dec 27 2010, 09:47 PM
- - Tzeentch   -- A bit more on-topic ... There are an inordinat...   Dec 27 2010, 11:24 PM
|- - pbangarth   QUOTE (Tzeentch @ Dec 27 2010, 06:24 PM) ...   Dec 28 2010, 01:36 AM
|- - TheMadderHatter   QUOTE (pbangarth @ Dec 27 2010, 08:36 PM)...   Dec 28 2010, 01:46 AM
- - pbangarth   Well, Tzeentch was specifically talking about subm...   Dec 28 2010, 01:59 AM
- - TheMadderHatter   My apologies for my misunderstanding; for some rea...   Dec 28 2010, 02:01 AM
- - Tzeentch   -- Hulls optimized for underwater travel are not v...   Dec 28 2010, 02:08 AM
|- - Neraph   QUOTE (Tzeentch @ Dec 27 2010, 08:08 PM) ...   Dec 28 2010, 05:26 PM
- - nezumi   Quick question - are the aircraft also designed to...   Dec 28 2010, 09:28 PM
- - Tzeentch   -- If it is really supposed to be a submersible or...   Dec 28 2010, 09:38 PM
- - Mardrax   So can the "submerged" aircraft subseque...   Dec 28 2010, 10:50 PM
|- - Tzeentch   QUOTE (Mardrax @ Dec 28 2010, 10:50 PM) S...   Dec 29 2010, 11:26 PM
|- - Mardrax   QUOTE (Tzeentch @ Dec 30 2010, 12:26 AM) ...   Dec 30 2010, 10:42 AM
|- - The Jopp   QUOTE (Mardrax @ Dec 30 2010, 11:42 AM) S...   Dec 30 2010, 12:24 PM
- - nezumi   That's an excellent question. I haven't se...   Dec 29 2010, 02:06 PM
- - The Jopp   Im getting a sinking feeling out of this thread.   Dec 29 2010, 02:27 PM
- - WyldKnight   We just escaped the pun trap, not again!   Dec 29 2010, 05:25 PM
- - hermit   There's a certain backdraft dragging it into d...   Dec 29 2010, 05:47 PM
- - Neraph   Well, if it's milspec, the device rating is su...   Dec 29 2010, 05:54 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Neraph @ Dec 29 2010, 12:54 PM) an...   Dec 29 2010, 05:57 PM
- - sabs   Ships are running off of Nexus, not commliks. The ...   Dec 29 2010, 05:58 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE And as we all know, its RADAR that does the ...   Dec 29 2010, 06:06 PM
|- - sabs   QUOTE (hermit @ Dec 29 2010, 07:06 PM) It...   Dec 29 2010, 06:41 PM
- - Doc Chase   Ships communicate via Sat. Maersk's supercarr...   Dec 29 2010, 06:09 PM
- - hermit   Sounds good.   Dec 29 2010, 06:22 PM
- - Tzeentch   -- Note that individual ships don't need to ha...   Dec 29 2010, 11:29 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE Silliness aside, I could definitely see a su...   Dec 30 2010, 12:35 PM
- - nezumi   You could also put the aircraft into some sort of ...   Dec 30 2010, 01:20 PM
- - hermit   The poor pilots. Isn't it enough to kill the s...   Dec 30 2010, 09:29 PM
- - Stahlseele   Well, it would work with drones at least.   Dec 30 2010, 10:03 PM
- - Mardrax   The aircraft wouldn't need any modifications t...   Dec 31 2010, 03:29 AM
- - hermit   Yeah, not the best pic ... it's from the supre...   Dec 31 2010, 08:04 AM
- - Mardrax   Ah. SC never really made it onto my to-do list, so...   Dec 31 2010, 11:18 AM
|- - hermit   QUOTE (Mardrax @ Dec 31 2010, 12:18 PM) A...   Jan 1 2011, 05:36 PM
|- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (hermit @ Jan 1 2011, 06:36 PM) I c...   Jan 1 2011, 06:25 PM
|- - Brazilian_Shinobi   QUOTE (hermit @ Jan 1 2011, 02:36 PM) It ...   Jan 1 2011, 06:49 PM
||- - hobgoblin   QUOTE (Brazilian_Shinobi @ Jan 1 2011, 07...   Jan 1 2011, 07:34 PM
||- - Mikado   QUOTE (Brazilian_Shinobi @ Jan 1 2011, 01...   Jan 1 2011, 08:56 PM
|- - nezumi   QUOTE (hermit @ Jan 1 2011, 12:36 PM) Wel...   Jan 1 2011, 10:30 PM
- - hermit   Nice. Well, it featured heavily in all Ace Combat ...   Jan 1 2011, 06:27 PM
- - hermit   Actually, I replied to a side track that said ...   Jan 1 2011, 10:46 PM
- - Shaidar   QUOTE (Neraph @ Dec 26 2010, 11:41 PM) Ig...   Jan 3 2011, 04:14 AM
- - Tzeentch   -- I'm not sure sub-launched aircraft work wel...   Jan 3 2011, 04:36 AM
|- - Mardrax   QUOTE (Tzeentch @ Jan 3 2011, 05:36 AM) F...   Jan 3 2011, 11:03 AM
|- - Tzeentch   QUOTE (Mardrax @ Jan 3 2011, 12:03 PM) .....   Jan 3 2011, 11:27 AM
- - Shaidar   I know I read it out of Arsenal. They need a new ...   Jan 3 2011, 05:27 AM
- - IcyCool   Just to put a little info out there, for those dis...   Jan 3 2011, 05:43 AM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (IcyCool @ Jan 3 2011, 12:43 AM) Ju...   Jan 3 2011, 03:13 PM
- - Tzeentch   -- In Shadowrun terms that's an aircraft with ...   Jan 3 2011, 05:47 AM
- - Mardrax   We know this, Shaldar. The exact same point has be...   Jan 3 2011, 06:10 AM
|- - nezumi   QUOTE (Mardrax @ Jan 3 2011, 01:10 AM) An...   Jan 3 2011, 12:32 PM
|- - simplexio   QUOTE (Mardrax @ Jan 3 2011, 08:10 AM) .....   Jan 3 2011, 05:59 PM
- - Brazilian_Shinobi   Reading the wikipedia article, I think the best so...   Jan 3 2011, 06:38 AM
|- - StealthSigma   QUOTE (Brazilian_Shinobi @ Jan 3 2011, 01...   Jan 3 2011, 02:55 PM
- - Dahrken   While it is not forbidden to load a drone (say a S...   Jan 3 2011, 11:53 AM
- - Tzeentch   The solid-fuel JATO packs? A jet engine can't...   Jan 3 2011, 01:20 PM
- - Stahlseele   Well, a normal turbine engine might, but then you...   Jan 3 2011, 01:37 PM
- - Tzeentch   -- The Russian Shkval is the only supercavitation ...   Jan 3 2011, 01:46 PM
- - Stahlseele   Yah, that's the one i was thinking about.   Jan 3 2011, 01:50 PM
- - Stahlseele   Also: Magic. High Force Levitate Spell or movemen...   Jan 3 2011, 03:10 PM
|- - Brazilian_Shinobi   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jan 3 2011, 12:10 PM)...   Jan 3 2011, 04:17 PM
- - Stahlseele   Ferrexample laddie   Jan 3 2011, 04:31 PM
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