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Havocs
Others are acolytes of entropic
forces, driven by a sociopathic compulsion to bring down
symbols of authority
and order and seed chaos and bedlam.

By eliminating the pernicious influence of social hierarchies,
mores, and rules
through campaigns of mass murder or
targeted assassination
, the havocs believe that modern civilization
will crack under its own weight and give humankind a
chance at a new start.


Havoc toxics favor insidious strategies
and carefully laid plans, working from within to bring chaos
and ruin to their targeted groups and individuals.


This sub-path of the toxics is not inherently evil. Why is that?

Cos in the cold dark world of Shadowrun, the symbols of authority are the Evil Megacorps. Megas have created a sick structure of social hierarchies where the megas are the kings, the govts are the puppets and the citizens are the slaves.

Robin Hood/ V for Vengance did not bring mass chaos to the citizens. Instead they targeted evil individuals and specific locations to cause the maximum amount of good.

Bringing down evil megacorps and preventing them from causing more damage to the environment and humanity is a just and noble act, isn't it? Giving humankind a chance to start all over again and not destroying humankind itself, how is that evil?

In fact, I can even see Havocs Toxics fighting against Reapers Toxics. Reapers wanna destroy everything and are just as bad as the megas themselves.

It would be an interesting fight .. Havocs versus Reapers.. A case of fighting Poison with Poison ..
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- pattyhulez   Robin Hood / V for Vengeance are toxic mages   Jan 4 2011, 05:40 AM
- - Yerameyahu   One definition of 'evil' could certainly b...   Jan 4 2011, 05:48 AM
- - Brazilian_Shinobi   I see what you did there. See, I can make it too: ...   Jan 4 2011, 05:49 AM
|- - pattyhulez   QUOTE (Brazilian_Shinobi @ Jan 4 2011, 04...   Jan 4 2011, 06:01 AM
- - pattyhulez   But what is evil to one person is not necessarily ...   Jan 4 2011, 05:58 AM
- - Yerameyahu   That's what I just said. However, it's no...   Jan 4 2011, 06:03 AM
|- - pattyhulez   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jan 4 2011, 05:03 PM)...   Jan 4 2011, 06:07 AM
- - Yerameyahu   No one said megacorps can't be evil. Actually...   Jan 4 2011, 06:10 AM
|- - pattyhulez   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jan 4 2011, 04:10 PM)...   Jan 4 2011, 07:45 AM
- - KarmaInferno   It really depends on if you believe in relative mo...   Jan 4 2011, 06:23 AM
|- - pattyhulez   QUOTE (KarmaInferno @ Jan 4 2011, 04:23 P...   Jan 4 2011, 07:47 AM
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- - Yerameyahu   In any case, I think we're ignoring the assump...   Jan 4 2011, 06:39 AM
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- - Manunancy   Yeah right he's a good guy of sorts.. just thi...   Jan 4 2011, 06:45 AM
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- - PoliteMan   Yeah, I can buy some of this. I can see shaman who...   Jan 4 2011, 08:38 AM
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