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ProfGast
post Jan 16 2011, 08:02 AM
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Hey Dumpshock, lately I've been trying to brainstorm new and interesting ways for 'runners to incapacitate targets. I'm looking for any more options than just stick'n'shock/gel ammo rounds, stunbolts or gas grenades. Those are all tried and true, yes, but how about some more interesting ones? I've got a sort of list going on (and I'll include the ones I mentioned just now) but I want to see if anyone else has other fun ideas. That said I'm putting MAGIC out as a blanket method, what with spirits and stun abilities etc.

Close Range:
Stun Baton (usually 6S(e))
Stun Staff (6S(e))
Shock Hands (5S(e))
Good Ol' Fisticuffs (Str/2S)
Electroshock Orthoskin (6S(e)) (Hey is it just me or does this basically mean shock hands, with higher damage, and no need to plug 'em in again ever?)
Tranq Patches (1-20S)
Chemical Gland (Exhalation)(by chemical)
Resonance Trodes + Blackout (By program. TECHNOMANCER only)
MAGIC

At Range:
Stick'n'Shock (6S(e))
Weapons weaker than body armor
Gel Rounds (As Weapon -1)
Capsule Rounds (As weapon -0)
Capsule Rounds (As Weapon -0, + Chemical effects) (Now with toxins in them! Pepper punch capsule rounds anyone?)
Tasers (usually 6S(e))
Super Squirt (As Chemical)
Injection Vector Weapons (As Weapon, + Chemical)
MAGIC

Area of Effect:
Chemical Grenades (As Chemical)
Flash Bang (6S)
MAGIC

So there's my list as it stands. Clearly you'd use some in certain situations rather than others: it's a lot neater to sneak in on someone and slap a tranq patch on them if you're trying to extract them without a struggle, than to send your troll in and sock 'em one. Just saying. YMMV.

Anyone else with contributions?
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- ProfGast   The Nonlethal Approach   Jan 16 2011, 08:02 AM
- - CanRay   The ultimate in Non-Lethal Approaches. Don't ...   Jan 16 2011, 08:21 AM
- - Udoshi   Don't forget killing hands. Its quite capable ...   Jan 16 2011, 09:22 AM
- - Ascalaphus   Killing Hands + Critical Strike indeed. Massive da...   Jan 16 2011, 11:58 AM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (Ascalaphus @ Jan 16 2011, 01:58 PM...   Jan 16 2011, 01:49 PM
|- - Ascalaphus   QUOTE (Mäx @ Jan 16 2011, 02:49 PM) Add e...   Jan 16 2011, 02:41 PM
||- - jaellot   QUOTE (Ascalaphus @ Jan 16 2011, 09:41 AM...   Jan 16 2011, 04:06 PM
|- - KarmaInferno   QUOTE (Mäx @ Jan 16 2011, 08:49 AM) Add e...   Jan 16 2011, 06:06 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Nearly as impressive as just using shock or drugs.   Jan 16 2011, 05:05 PM
- - Makki   Subdual does stun. lots of it. i've seen a tro...   Jan 16 2011, 05:33 PM
- - Aerospider   For me it's definitely the nerve strike power....   Jan 16 2011, 07:41 PM
- - pbangarth   There's also slab (Arsenal, page 76).   Jan 16 2011, 08:05 PM
- - Ramaloke   QUOTE (Ascalaphus @ Jan 16 2011, 06:58 AM...   Jan 16 2011, 09:07 PM
|- - Udoshi   QUOTE (Ramaloke @ Jan 16 2011, 02:07 PM) ...   Jan 16 2011, 10:48 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Pretty sure you can't.   Jan 16 2011, 09:11 PM
- - Ramaloke   Got a quote? It seems to me like they'd all st...   Jan 16 2011, 09:15 PM
- - Sengir   QUOTE (ProfGast @ Jan 16 2011, 09:02 AM) ...   Jan 16 2011, 09:27 PM
- - pbangarth   QUOTE (Ramaloke @ Jan 16 2011, 04:15 PM) ...   Jan 16 2011, 10:25 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (pbangarth @ Jan 16 2011, 03:25 PM)...   Jan 17 2011, 03:54 AM
- - Yerameyahu   *shrug*. I could've sworn there was a specific...   Jan 16 2011, 10:30 PM
- - pbangarth   About elemental strike, it isn't that it adds ...   Jan 16 2011, 10:39 PM
|- - Saint Sithney   QUOTE (pbangarth @ Jan 16 2011, 02:39 PM)...   Jan 17 2011, 11:48 AM
- - Ascalaphus   So, at CharGen you'd be limited to Base DV = ...   Jan 16 2011, 11:22 PM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (Ascalaphus @ Jan 17 2011, 01:22 AM...   Jan 16 2011, 11:44 PM
|- - Mardrax   QUOTE (Mäx @ Jan 17 2011, 12:44 AM) + the...   Jan 17 2011, 12:47 AM
- - Stahlseele   Does all of that stack WITH Subdual Combat? Also, ...   Jan 16 2011, 11:24 PM
- - Makki   only the Wrestling MA specifically states to contr...   Jan 16 2011, 11:30 PM
- - Stahlseele   Well, the only important thing about the subdual w...   Jan 16 2011, 11:38 PM
- - Ascalaphus   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jan 17 2011, 12:24 AM...   Jan 17 2011, 01:08 AM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (Ascalaphus @ Jan 17 2011, 03:08 AM...   Jan 17 2011, 01:16 AM
|- - Warlordtheft   QUOTE (Ascalaphus @ Jan 16 2011, 08:08 PM...   Jan 18 2011, 01:22 PM
- - PoliteMan   I've had great success with Blackout (Matrix S...   Jan 17 2011, 04:58 AM
|- - ProfGast   QUOTE (PoliteMan @ Jan 16 2011, 06:58 PM)...   Jan 17 2011, 05:38 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Resonance Trodes in general is a pretty crazy (and...   Jan 17 2011, 05:40 AM
- - PoliteMan   Wait, Resonance Trodes? I just meant general Matri...   Jan 17 2011, 06:19 AM
|- - ProfGast   QUOTE (PoliteMan @ Jan 16 2011, 08:19 PM)...   Jan 17 2011, 08:38 AM
- - CanRay   I GOT IT! The ultimate knock out drug and met...   Jan 17 2011, 06:48 AM
|- - Faraday   QUOTE (CanRay @ Jan 16 2011, 10:48 PM) I ...   Jan 17 2011, 09:27 AM
|- - Aerospider   QUOTE (CanRay @ Jan 17 2011, 06:48 AM) I ...   Jan 17 2011, 11:15 AM
|- - CanRay   QUOTE (Aerospider @ Jan 17 2011, 07:15 AM...   Jan 17 2011, 06:35 PM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (CanRay @ Jan 18 2011, 02:35 AM) It...   Jan 18 2011, 02:50 AM
- - Mardrax   (S)he'll be an expensive date. Still, surely, ...   Jan 17 2011, 10:21 AM
- - Stahlseele   It also throws away the one thing that makes close...   Jan 17 2011, 12:10 PM
|- - pbangarth   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jan 17 2011, 07:10 AM...   Jan 17 2011, 02:26 PM
|- - Mardrax   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jan 17 2011, 01:10 PM...   Jan 17 2011, 03:22 PM
|- - Saint Sithney   QUOTE (Mardrax @ Jan 17 2011, 07:22 AM) I...   Jan 18 2011, 12:55 PM
|- - Faraday   I see what you did there.   Jan 18 2011, 01:06 PM
|- - toturi   QUOTE (Faraday @ Jan 18 2011, 09:06 PM) I...   Jan 18 2011, 01:14 PM
|- - Stahlseele   QUOTE (toturi @ Jan 18 2011, 02:14 PM) I ...   Jan 18 2011, 01:31 PM
|- - Saint Sithney   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jan 18 2011, 05:31 AM...   Jan 18 2011, 02:00 PM
- - Ascalaphus   It's what they use in movies, that sound when ...   Jan 17 2011, 12:27 PM
- - Apathy   Are there any effective delivery methods for freez...   Jan 17 2011, 02:49 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Grenade, glop gun?   Jan 17 2011, 03:03 PM
- - KarmaInferno   Injector rounds. -k   Jan 17 2011, 03:14 PM
|- - pbangarth   QUOTE (KarmaInferno @ Jan 17 2011, 10:14 ...   Jan 17 2011, 03:40 PM
- - Yerameyahu   If we're going to play the 'there are no *...   Jan 17 2011, 03:59 PM
- - Ascalaphus   Well, there's something to be said for sub-hum...   Jan 17 2011, 04:01 PM
- - Yerameyahu   I dunno about the hearing ranges of sub-humans, bu...   Jan 17 2011, 04:09 PM
- - Raven the Trickster   They seem to be having fun with light element punc...   Jan 17 2011, 04:46 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Unless the GM decides that it makes BZZZRT! no...   Jan 17 2011, 04:49 PM
|- - Mardrax   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jan 17 2011, 05:49 PM...   Jan 17 2011, 11:07 PM
- - Dahrken   Sitting in a car (or a chair) is likely to give aw...   Jan 17 2011, 07:18 PM
- - Faraday   The thing about elemental strike is that it's ...   Jan 18 2011, 07:10 AM
- - Ascalaphus   Sound Blast is mainly useful when trying to drop a...   Jan 18 2011, 11:24 AM
- - CanRay   Michael Cheritto: "Hey, Slick, you see that ...   Jan 18 2011, 04:08 PM
- - Semerkhet   My group has had good success with chemical grenad...   Jan 18 2011, 06:58 PM


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