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Seth
post Jan 19 2011, 12:44 PM
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I am having a discussion with a friend about mundane hacker vs adept hacker vs technomancer.

Both of us have seen threads on this forum about killer builds for all of them. My friend remembers a thread with a technomancer capable of gaining a rating 24 stealth.

So I am kind of asking people to make the equivalent of the pornomancer. What is the most killer technomancer you can make with 400 bp, and what is the most killer build for an adept or mundane hacker.

The goal of the build is to be able to walk into Zurich Orbital and steal some money. I suspect Hacking/Exploit, Stealth and Hacking/spoof are the most important die builds, but any build that can do this is welcome.

We think that for the purposes of this you can treat Zurich Orbital as rating 10 world (System 10, Firewall 10) with lots of unpleasant software around designed to upset you.


My first two are:

Adept hacker
[ Spoiler ]

This gives me stealth 6
Hacking + Exploit = Skill 6 + spec 2 + adept 3 + program 6 + code slinger 2 + encephalon 2 + PuShEd 1= 22


Technomancer:
[ Spoiler ]

Assuming I thread my stealth to + 5 I have stealth 10 (and have to resist and/or heal 5 physical damage)
Assuming I thread my exploit to + 5 I have exploit 10 (and have to resist and/or heal 5 physical damage)
I also need to have a registered sprite to maintain stealth for me while I hack, or I am -2 on all actions

Hacking + Exploit = Skill 6 + spec 2 + complex form 5 + threaded 5 + code slinger 2 + encephalon 1 + PuShEd 1 + paragon 2 = 24 die
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- Seth   Munchkin technomancer builds   Jan 19 2011, 12:44 PM
- - Makki   the problem is not your Exploit dice pool. you can...   Jan 19 2011, 02:42 PM
- - Jaid   you also forgot that the technomancer can also jus...   Jan 19 2011, 03:05 PM
- - hermit   Pay attention to what you make your Threading attr...   Jan 19 2011, 03:20 PM
- - Udoshi   QUOTE (Seth @ Jan 19 2011, 05:44 AM) So I...   Jan 19 2011, 10:41 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE A technomancer's strength comes from the...   Jan 19 2011, 11:22 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (hermit @ Jan 19 2011, 04:22 PM) A ...   Jan 20 2011, 03:18 AM
- - Ryu   If you follow Jaid´s advice, spice it up with Reso...   Jan 20 2011, 12:32 AM
- - Xahn Borealis   Don't forget that hacking success is not just ...   Jan 20 2011, 12:54 AM
|- - PoliteMan   QUOTE (Xahn Borealis @ Jan 20 2011, 08:54...   Jan 20 2011, 03:14 AM
|- - Dahrken   QUOTE (PoliteMan @ Jan 20 2011, 04:14 AM)...   Jan 20 2011, 05:59 AM
- - hermit   QUOTE I would not call Rating 10 Programs (Potenti...   Jan 20 2011, 08:20 AM
|- - PoliteMan   QUOTE (hermit @ Jan 20 2011, 04:20 PM) su...   Jan 20 2011, 09:14 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (PoliteMan @ Jan 20 2011, 02:14 AM)...   Jan 20 2011, 02:01 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE PS. Why does a Hacker need Response 10 to ke...   Jan 20 2011, 09:37 AM
|- - PoliteMan   QUOTE (hermit @ Jan 20 2011, 05:37 PM) Bu...   Jan 20 2011, 09:49 AM
- - hermit   QUOTE Besides, you can just optimize any program t...   Jan 20 2011, 10:17 AM
|- - PoliteMan   QUOTE (hermit @ Jan 20 2011, 06:17 PM) Ye...   Jan 20 2011, 10:28 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (hermit @ Jan 20 2011, 03:17 AM) Ye...   Jan 20 2011, 02:03 PM
- - Seth   QUOTE Yes, maybe a specialized techno will be bett...   Jan 20 2011, 10:55 AM
- - hermit   QUOTE Yes, maybe a specialized techno will be bett...   Jan 20 2011, 11:09 AM
- - Seth   QUOTE That s much moreso true for mancers than hac...   Jan 20 2011, 11:33 AM
- - hermit   Teamork on stealth tests, and one type (am AFB) ha...   Jan 20 2011, 11:47 AM
- - PoliteMan   QUOTE (Seth @ Jan 20 2011, 06:55 PM) I th...   Jan 20 2011, 01:26 PM
- - sabs   Response 10 means they can run more software. Wi...   Jan 20 2011, 02:13 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (sabs @ Jan 20 2011, 07:13 AM) Resp...   Jan 20 2011, 02:35 PM
||- - PoliteMan   Wow, a lot of people posted while I was typing my ...   Jan 20 2011, 03:11 PM
|- - PoliteMan   QUOTE (sabs @ Jan 20 2011, 10:13 PM) The ...   Jan 20 2011, 02:52 PM
- - sabs   You're using the Logic+skill optional rule. T...   Jan 20 2011, 02:43 PM
|- - Sengir   QUOTE (sabs @ Jan 20 2011, 03:43 PM) Tech...   Jan 20 2011, 03:00 PM
- - Seth   To have a r12 registered sprite requires risking ...   Jan 20 2011, 02:51 PM
|- - Aerospider   QUOTE (Seth @ Jan 20 2011, 02:51 PM) To h...   Jan 20 2011, 04:51 PM
- - sabs   Well and Technomancers who don't use worms, et...   Jan 20 2011, 03:20 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE We have a Technomancer at our table, with 30...   Jan 20 2011, 04:37 PM
|- - Sengir   QUOTE (hermit @ Jan 20 2011, 05:37 PM) Th...   Jan 20 2011, 05:47 PM
|- - PoliteMan   QUOTE (hermit @ Jan 21 2011, 12:37 AM) Th...   Jan 21 2011, 02:25 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (hermit @ Jan 20 2011, 09:37 AM) Th...   Jan 21 2011, 01:53 PM
- - sabs   You could though, get a copy of a skillsoft someon...   Jan 20 2011, 05:55 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE Annecdotal evidence is better than none... M...   Jan 20 2011, 05:55 PM
|- - Aerospider   QUOTE (hermit @ Jan 20 2011, 05:55 PM) Ma...   Jan 20 2011, 06:27 PM
|- - Sengir   QUOTE (hermit @ Jan 20 2011, 06:55 PM) It...   Jan 21 2011, 01:20 AM
- - hermit   QUOTE Technically true, but check the Fading rules...   Jan 20 2011, 06:38 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE If two interpretations are equally valid by ...   Jan 21 2011, 07:55 AM
|- - PoliteMan   QUOTE (hermit @ Jan 21 2011, 03:55 PM) It...   Jan 21 2011, 09:21 AM
|- - Sengir   QUOTE (hermit @ Jan 21 2011, 08:55 AM) It...   Jan 21 2011, 01:17 PM
|- - Tycho   QUOTE (hermit @ Jan 21 2011, 08:55 AM) As...   Jan 21 2011, 01:19 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE I dunno, it's still fundamentally a ...   Jan 21 2011, 10:38 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (hermit @ Jan 21 2011, 03:38 AM) Th...   Jan 21 2011, 02:07 PM
- - Saint Sithney   The Hacker's advantage is starting with 5 IPs ...   Jan 21 2011, 10:46 AM
- - hermit   QUOTE The Hacker's advantage is starting with ...   Jan 21 2011, 10:52 AM
|- - Saint Sithney   QUOTE (hermit @ Jan 21 2011, 02:52 AM) On...   Jan 21 2011, 11:07 AM
- - Ramaloke   As far as why you need to be 150% optimized, I thi...   Jan 21 2011, 02:25 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Ramaloke @ Jan 21 2011, 07:25 AM) ...   Jan 21 2011, 02:31 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE Why is it that wehen a character is not 150%...   Jan 21 2011, 04:11 PM
|- - Sengir   QUOTE (hermit @ Jan 21 2011, 05:11 PM) Oh...   Jan 21 2011, 04:53 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (hermit @ Jan 21 2011, 09:11 AM) Oh...   Jan 21 2011, 05:07 PM
|- - Saint Sithney   QUOTE (hermit @ Jan 21 2011, 08:11 AM) I ...   Jan 22 2011, 06:26 AM
|- - PoliteMan   QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Jan 22 2011, 02:26...   Jan 22 2011, 06:48 AM
|- - Eratosthenes   QUOTE (PoliteMan @ Jan 22 2011, 01:48 AM)...   Jan 22 2011, 02:21 PM
|- - PoliteMan   QUOTE (Eratosthenes @ Jan 22 2011, 10:21 ...   Jan 24 2011, 01:59 AM
|- - Eratosthenes   QUOTE (PoliteMan @ Jan 23 2011, 08:59 PM)...   Jan 24 2011, 03:16 AM
|- - PoliteMan   QUOTE (Eratosthenes @ Jan 24 2011, 11:16 ...   Jan 24 2011, 04:41 AM
|- - Eratosthenes   QUOTE (PoliteMan @ Jan 23 2011, 11:41 PM)...   Jan 24 2011, 07:55 PM
|- - PoliteMan   QUOTE (Eratosthenes @ Jan 25 2011, 03:55 ...   Jan 25 2011, 03:27 AM
|- - Eratosthenes   QUOTE (PoliteMan @ Jan 24 2011, 10:27 PM)...   Jan 25 2011, 03:20 PM
|- - PoliteMan   QUOTE (Eratosthenes @ Jan 25 2011, 11:20 ...   Jan 26 2011, 07:56 AM
- - hermit   QUOTE Quintessence: The rules don't say when i...   Jan 21 2011, 05:18 PM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (hermit @ Jan 21 2011, 07:18 PM) Yo...   Jan 21 2011, 05:36 PM
|- - Sengir   QUOTE (hermit @ Jan 21 2011, 06:18 PM) Gi...   Jan 22 2011, 12:58 AM
- - Udoshi   I'm staying out of this discussion, but if you...   Jan 21 2011, 05:25 PM
- - Ramaloke   So can anybody post up a Optimized 400 BP technoma...   Jan 21 2011, 11:22 PM
|- - Ryu   QUOTE (Ramaloke @ Jan 22 2011, 12:22 AM) ...   Jan 22 2011, 12:15 AM
|- - Tycho   QUOTE (Ramaloke @ Jan 22 2011, 12:22 AM) ...   Jan 22 2011, 01:40 AM
|- - Kyoto Kid   QUOTE (Ramaloke @ Jan 21 2011, 05:22 PM) ...   Jan 24 2011, 04:39 AM
- - hermit   QUOTE Your TM has no skills, because he has 5k nuy...   Jan 22 2011, 11:10 AM
|- - Makki   QUOTE (hermit @ Jan 22 2011, 06:10 AM) Ye...   Jan 22 2011, 02:36 PM
- - onlyghostdanceswhiledrunk   On the note of maintaining the Stealth CF, whats t...   Jan 23 2011, 08:56 PM
|- - Saint Sithney   QUOTE (onlyghostdanceswhiledrunk @ Jan 23 201...   Jan 24 2011, 08:20 AM
|- - Udoshi   QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Jan 24 2011, 01:20...   Jan 24 2011, 08:44 AM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (Udoshi @ Jan 24 2011, 10:44 AM) A ...   Jan 24 2011, 10:25 AM
||- - Udoshi   QUOTE (Mäx @ Jan 24 2011, 03:25 AM) You b...   Jan 24 2011, 10:41 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Udoshi @ Jan 24 2011, 01:44 AM) A ...   Jan 24 2011, 02:23 PM
|- - onlyghostdanceswhiledrunk   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jan 24 2011, 06...   Jan 24 2011, 02:56 PM
- - Yerameyahu   This assumes that 'basically just optical chip...   Jan 24 2011, 02:13 AM
- - Yerameyahu   You can set your Signal to anything, within the ra...   Jan 24 2011, 04:51 AM
- - Saint Sithney   Well, there's always Overdrive and Trance for ...   Jan 24 2011, 08:57 AM
|- - PoliteMan   QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Jan 24 2011, 04:57...   Jan 24 2011, 09:06 AM
|- - Saint Sithney   QUOTE (PoliteMan @ Jan 24 2011, 01:06 AM)...   Jan 24 2011, 09:21 AM
- - Irion   Threading is not a complex action? I may just thr...   Jan 24 2011, 09:24 AM
|- - Aerospider   QUOTE (Irion @ Jan 24 2011, 09:24 AM) Thr...   Jan 24 2011, 09:40 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Seriously? Why can't we ever get past this kin...   Jan 24 2011, 03:21 PM
|- - onlyghostdanceswhiledrunk   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jan 24 2011, 07:21 AM...   Jan 24 2011, 08:45 PM
- - sabs   QUOTE When operating in full VR using cold sim, yo...   Jan 24 2011, 03:24 PM
- - Yerameyahu   The 'design and build novahot gear' also r...   Jan 25 2011, 07:43 PM
- - sabs   The problem is that what Fluff wise a 5, 6 or heav...   Jan 25 2011, 08:11 PM
|- - Aerospider   QUOTE (sabs @ Jan 25 2011, 08:11 PM) a 4 ...   Jan 26 2011, 01:28 PM
|- - Eratosthenes   QUOTE (Aerospider @ Jan 26 2011, 08:28 AM...   Jan 26 2011, 02:50 PM
|- - Aerospider   QUOTE (Eratosthenes @ Jan 26 2011, 02:50 ...   Jan 26 2011, 03:11 PM
- - Cheops   Could a TM use a registered sprite's Stability...   Jan 26 2011, 08:47 PM
- - Udoshi   QUOTE (Cheops @ Jan 26 2011, 01:47 PM) Co...   Jan 27 2011, 12:16 AM
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