Mar 3 2011, 05:50 AM
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We've already decided we're going to use one of two versions of the Hacking "tweak" from unwired. We still haven't decided which one to use though, because we're kind of split philosophically. Here they are:
#1) Use [Stat + Skill] Cap Hits @ Program RTG (like spell force). #2) Use [Program RTG + Skill] Cap Hits @ Stat The first says basically a person is only as good as their tools. The second says it takes a smart person to get the BEST out of their tools. So with #1 if you have a script kiddy and a pro using the same Warez, the vet gets more hits but can't keep any more if the kiddy gets lucky. With #2 and the same basic conditions, the kiddy will have almost the same dice pool, and the keep pools are also potentially closer. Philosophically I could go either way. In terms of Crunchy BitzTM I'm more likely to go with #1 because it favors the veteran more heavily IMHO and because it's also CONSISTENT with the Magic Spell mechanics. Thoughts? (Remember, I'm biased playing with all three DP caps in if that affects your opinion.) -Kerenshara |
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Kerenshara Hacking: Talent over Warez? Mar 3 2011, 05:50 AM
CanRay Back in the day, and I'm talking our days, I... Mar 3 2011, 06:47 AM
Tanegar I favor #1, because hardly anything (that I know o... Mar 3 2011, 06:52 AM
CanRay Overspecialization bites a lot of people in the ho... Mar 3 2011, 06:54 AM
Epicedion #1 seems to jive more with reality and the rest of... Mar 3 2011, 07:22 AM
Mardrax Limited by the program? A reality? You should see ... Mar 3 2011, 07:46 AM
Epicedion QUOTE (Mardrax @ Mar 3 2011, 02:46 AM) Li... Mar 3 2011, 09:50 AM
Fatum Sorry, I can't read your post.
Have you tried ... Mar 3 2011, 07:52 AM
CanRay Too long. Did not read. Mar 3 2011, 07:58 AM
Fatum Nah, I'm ok with long posts, as long as they h... Mar 3 2011, 08:46 AM
Tanegar Or you could pull your panties out of your crack a... Mar 3 2011, 09:18 AM
Fatum QUOTE (Tanegar @ Mar 3 2011, 12:18 PM) Or... Mar 3 2011, 10:09 AM
Tanegar QUOTE (Merriam-Webster)Definition of GIBBERIS... Mar 3 2011, 10:15 AM
Fatum QUOTE (Tanegar @ Mar 3 2011, 01:15 PM)
I... Mar 3 2011, 10:55 AM
noonesshowmonkey QUOTE (Fatum @ Mar 3 2011, 05:55 AM) I... Mar 3 2011, 04:28 PM
Fatum QUOTE (noonesshowmonkey @ Mar 3 2011, 07... Mar 3 2011, 06:12 PM
noonesshowmonkey QUOTE (Fatum @ Mar 3 2011, 01:12 PM) Nice... Mar 5 2011, 12:46 AM
Seth I think both options suck.
I like it when people... Mar 3 2011, 10:15 AM
Tanegar QUOTE (Seth @ Mar 3 2011, 05:15 AM) I lik... Mar 3 2011, 10:21 AM
Tanegar If it's unintelligible, how were you able to r... Mar 3 2011, 11:19 AM
Fatum I am not responding to its contents, because the O... Mar 3 2011, 11:49 AM
Tanegar QUOTE (Fatum @ Mar 3 2011, 06:49 AM) I am... Mar 3 2011, 08:23 PM
Fatum QUOTE (Tanegar @ Mar 3 2011, 11:23 PM) So... Mar 3 2011, 10:42 PM
KarmaInferno QUOTE (Tanegar @ Mar 3 2011, 03:23 PM) So... Mar 4 2011, 03:02 AM
phlapjack77 QUOTE (Kerenshara @ Mar 3 2011, 01:50 PM)... Mar 3 2011, 11:56 AM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein At our table, Kerenshara, we use option 1. Skill +... Mar 3 2011, 02:23 PM
Yerameyahu I agree: neither one is a great idea. Hacking isn... Mar 3 2011, 02:25 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Mar 3 2011, 07:25 AM)... Mar 3 2011, 02:34 PM
Seth QUOTE I agree: neither one is a great idea. Hackin... Mar 3 2011, 02:28 PM
Yerameyahu Actually, if this applied to 'Hacking programs... Mar 3 2011, 02:35 PM
Inncubi I already play with caps on hits on every, relevan... Mar 3 2011, 02:36 PM
Warlordtheft I used option one for a while but eventually went ... Mar 3 2011, 02:41 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Warlordtheft @ Mar 3 2011, 07:41 A... Mar 3 2011, 06:33 PM
Yerameyahu That's a font, not a script. And it's hor... Mar 3 2011, 02:50 PM
Seth QUOTE If a player rolls 10 and you say, 'screw... Mar 3 2011, 04:10 PM
Inncubi QUOTE (Seth @ Mar 3 2011, 11:10 AM) Yes. ... Mar 3 2011, 04:37 PM
Brazilian_Shinobi What happened to warlordtheft happened to my group... Mar 3 2011, 06:11 PM
Mardrax Style.
We're roleplayers. Mar 3 2011, 06:25 PM
Fatum QUOTE (Mardrax @ Mar 3 2011, 09:25 PM) St... Mar 3 2011, 07:08 PM
Mardrax QUOTE (Fatum @ Mar 3 2011, 08:08 PM) Ugly... Mar 3 2011, 08:01 PM
Fatum QUOTE (Mardrax @ Mar 3 2011, 11:01 PM) Fo... Mar 3 2011, 08:15 PM
deek I've been (had been, at least) using a variati... Mar 3 2011, 09:14 PM
Yerameyahu Take it outside, ugh. Other fonts are really annoy... Mar 3 2011, 10:58 PM
Fatum QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Mar 4 2011, 01:58 AM)... Mar 3 2011, 11:01 PM
Tanegar QUOTE (Fatum @ Mar 3 2011, 05:42 PM) Sorr... Mar 4 2011, 04:19 AM
Fatum QUOTE (Tanegar @ Mar 4 2011, 07:19 AM) Ni... Mar 4 2011, 05:43 AM
TheOOB I like the rules as written. There is an important... Mar 3 2011, 11:48 PM
Mardrax Writing code = coding != hacking.
A good hacke... Mar 3 2011, 11:57 PM
TheOOB QUOTE (Mardrax @ Mar 3 2011, 06:57 PM) Wr... Mar 4 2011, 01:42 AM
CanRay I've coded and never touched a hack in my life... Mar 4 2011, 12:00 AM
Mr Clock I think I'll stick with standard for now, but ... Mar 4 2011, 12:35 AM
CanRay A great hacker will know more about a system than ... Mar 4 2011, 01:45 AM
Yerameyahu Facrissake. You both lose. Those fonts are awful, ... Mar 4 2011, 04:25 AM
phlapjack77 QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Mar 4 2011, 12:25 PM)... Mar 4 2011, 05:19 AM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Mar 3 2011, 09:25 PM)... Mar 4 2011, 02:02 PM
deek Its also part of netiquette to not hijack a thread... Mar 4 2011, 01:08 PM
deek My table had the same experience as Tymeaus's.... Mar 4 2011, 02:23 PM
Yerameyahu For the millionth time, Tymeaus, your table is nev... Mar 4 2011, 02:51 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Mar 4 2011, 07:51 AM)... Mar 4 2011, 03:00 PM
DireRadiant Next people will be complaining about color.
Fatu... Mar 4 2011, 03:29 PM
Fatum QUOTE (deek @ Mar 4 2011, 04:08 PM) Its a... Mar 4 2011, 03:47 PM
Critias I'm all for the theory of capped hits as a mea... Mar 4 2011, 08:55 PM

Epicedion QUOTE (Critias @ Mar 4 2011, 03:55 PM) I... Mar 4 2011, 10:55 PM

Critias QUOTE (Epicedion @ Mar 4 2011, 05:55 PM) ... Mar 4 2011, 10:58 PM

KCKitsune QUOTE (Epicedion @ Mar 4 2011, 05:55 PM) ... Mar 4 2011, 11:39 PM


Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (KCKitsune @ Mar 4 2011, 04:39 PM) ... Mar 5 2011, 12:22 AM


Epicedion QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Mar 4 2011, 07... Mar 5 2011, 04:00 AM

noonesshowmonkey QUOTE (Epicedion @ Mar 4 2011, 05:55 PM) ... Mar 5 2011, 12:54 AM
Mikado QUOTE (Fatum @ Mar 4 2011, 10:47 AM) Well... Mar 4 2011, 10:17 PM
Yerameyahu That not quite true: RAW already has Skill as half... Mar 4 2011, 03:32 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Mar 4 2011, 08:32 AM)... Mar 4 2011, 03:50 PM
Seth Once again I find myself totally in agreement with... Mar 4 2011, 03:46 PM
Inncubi Anyone can hack in Sr. That is true. I think anyon... Mar 4 2011, 03:50 PM
Seth QUOTE Well, true, that, but it's not the first... Mar 4 2011, 03:50 PM
Yerameyahu For too-many-toys, I prefer capping the +DP instea... Mar 5 2011, 04:58 AM
deek In response to Critias's point of caps robbing... Mar 6 2011, 03:05 PM
Yerameyahu That's making your own luck. And it means you ... Mar 6 2011, 03:14 PM
Mr Clock *ding!*
How about capping hits at program rat... Mar 6 2011, 04:05 PM
Yerameyahu That works better than the more general 2xSkill ca... Mar 6 2011, 04:11 PM
Mr Clock Thanks for the feedback. I was primarily thinking... Mar 6 2011, 05:02 PM
Warlordtheft QUOTE (Mr Clock @ Mar 6 2011, 12:02 PM) C... Mar 7 2011, 04:48 PM
Yerameyahu Good point about program Rating actually having Ra... Mar 6 2011, 05:09 PM
Saint Hallow Wasn't there a line from the books that said t... Mar 6 2011, 06:31 PM
CanRay QUOTE (Saint Hallow @ Mar 6 2011, 02:31 P... Mar 6 2011, 06:33 PM
Mr Clock If brains are too slow to react directly, wouldn... Mar 6 2011, 06:37 PM
Yerameyahu Another option is the Stat+Skill+Gear model, which... Mar 6 2011, 07:29 PM
deek Yeah, it is making your own luck (going back to th... Mar 7 2011, 04:41 PM
deek Yup, I think the reasons why the core is the way i... Mar 7 2011, 05:53 PM
Mr Clock QUOTE (deek @ Mar 7 2011, 05:53 PM) I thi... Mar 7 2011, 08:04 PM
sabs The problem with Custom Programs, is that. There... Mar 7 2011, 08:19 PM
Yerameyahu It's just fluff, most likely, but it could als... Mar 7 2011, 08:26 PM
sabs Yeah, need to create more options. Mar 7 2011, 08:35 PM
Yerameyahu Actually… that's a great point. What if the di... Mar 7 2011, 08:50 PM
sabs Mute starts to look nice
Optimized looks worthless... Mar 7 2011, 09:41 PM
Kerenshara Wow.
Thanks to everybody who contributed to the d... Apr 1 2011, 02:46 AM
Epicedion QUOTE (Kerenshara @ Mar 31 2011, 10:46 PM... Apr 1 2011, 02:58 AM
Cain QUOTE (deek @ Mar 6 2011, 07:05 AM) In re... Apr 1 2011, 03:15 AM
Kerenshara QUOTE (Cain @ Mar 31 2011, 10:15 PM) As f... Apr 1 2011, 03:30 AM
Cain QUOTE (Kerenshara @ Mar 31 2011, 08:30 PM... Apr 1 2011, 04:07 AM
CanRay Please, no, not again. *Goes back to my corner, c... Apr 1 2011, 03:38 AM![]() ![]() |
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