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Dart pistols need 2 hits to inject their toxin, and I can't find anything that makes armor matter for that so it looks like darts ignore Immunity to Natural Weapons. I also can't find anything that makes spirits immune to toxins. Can a dart loaded with Narcoject take out a spirit by the RAW?
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James McMurray Spirits and Dart Pistols Mar 15 2011, 02:44 PM
BishopMcQ Since the description says that the dart has to pe... Mar 15 2011, 02:54 PM
James McMurray QUOTE (BishopMcQ @ Mar 15 2011, 09:54 AM)... Mar 15 2011, 03:25 PM
BishopMcQ The Damage modifier in the table, says "As Dr... Mar 15 2011, 03:53 PM
CanRay Load it with the most toxic insecticide you can fi... Mar 15 2011, 04:31 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein Well, Military Grade Armor ignores Darts... I woul... Mar 15 2011, 05:44 PM
LurkerOutThere Why, no other logic applies to magic, why should t... Mar 15 2011, 05:59 PM
Method QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Mar 15 2011, 12:5... Mar 15 2011, 06:09 PM
Tanegar Does a materialized spirit have a circulatory syst... Mar 15 2011, 06:20 PM
Bodak QUOTE (Tanegar @ Mar 16 2011, 04:20 AM) D... Mar 16 2011, 11:21 PM
James McMurray They don't have Immunity to Pathogens/Toxins, ... Mar 15 2011, 06:32 PM
Yerameyahu Both the question of toxins on materialized spirit... Mar 15 2011, 07:31 PM
Method QUOTE (SR4A Page 60)The mechanics for doing things... Mar 15 2011, 09:40 PM
Yerameyahu Exactly. The important thing is remembering that ... Mar 15 2011, 09:48 PM
Method I agree, inhabitation is a whole different ball ga... Mar 15 2011, 09:59 PM
BishopMcQ QUOTE (Method @ Mar 15 2011, 02:59 PM) wa... Mar 15 2011, 11:23 PM
Cain Look at it this way: If I spilled radioactive wast... Mar 16 2011, 03:51 AM
Adarael QUOTE (Cain @ Mar 15 2011, 07:51 PM) Look... Mar 16 2011, 04:12 PM
Yerameyahu You're comparing toxins and chemicals. Radioac... Mar 16 2011, 04:33 AM
Cain QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Mar 15 2011, 08:33 PM... Mar 16 2011, 04:41 AM
CanRay Radioactive Waste is stored in "Safety Barrel... Mar 16 2011, 04:37 AM
Yerameyahu True. And yet, you're still falsely equating t... Mar 16 2011, 04:46 AM
Cain QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Mar 15 2011, 08:46 PM... Mar 16 2011, 05:12 AM
Yerameyahu AFAIK, materialized spirits are made of something ... Mar 16 2011, 05:43 AM
Cain QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Mar 15 2011, 10:43 PM... Mar 16 2011, 09:37 AM
phlapjack77 QUOTE (Cain @ Mar 16 2011, 05:37 PM) Agai... Mar 16 2011, 09:59 AM
Seth QUOTE Basically, why shouldn't fugu venom or b... Mar 16 2011, 07:45 AM
phlapjack77 Bravo! I'm glad there are some actual rule... Mar 16 2011, 08:23 AM
Kliko This way is madness. Don't go there! Mar 16 2011, 10:12 AM
Seth QUOTE Again, suppose I know I'm facing down pl... Mar 16 2011, 10:14 AM
phlapjack77 QUOTE (Seth @ Mar 16 2011, 06:14 PM) I mu... Mar 16 2011, 10:34 AM
Yerameyahu AFAIK, there are no herbicides in the game anyway,... Mar 16 2011, 02:05 PM
pbangarth The common sense view that spirits are made of dif... Mar 16 2011, 02:43 PM
Raven the Trickster Yes, but insect spirits are inhabitation spirits, ... Mar 16 2011, 03:41 PM
Stahlseele How about injecting spirits with FAB? Mar 16 2011, 04:28 PM
Ascalaphus Rules, like potatoes and chicken, aren't any g... Mar 16 2011, 04:29 PM
Yerameyahu I think it's Weakness, not Allergy, although w... Mar 16 2011, 07:34 PM
Method Cain is right in that a lot of toxins are weak aci... Mar 16 2011, 09:02 PM
Adarael Something I thought of while I was in the shower t... Mar 16 2011, 09:25 PM
Stahlseele yeah, you can. and since it's an elemental att... Mar 16 2011, 09:29 PM
James McMurray There is a critter power for Immunity to Pathogens... Mar 16 2011, 09:30 PM
Ascalaphus What kind of answer are you looking for?
Do you w... Mar 16 2011, 10:27 PM
James McMurray I'm just stating my opinion like everyone else... Mar 16 2011, 10:51 PM
jaellot Pg. 91 of Runner's Companion states that ... Mar 16 2011, 11:06 PM
Cain QUOTE (jaellot @ Mar 16 2011, 03:06 PM) P... Mar 16 2011, 11:19 PM
Yerameyahu You keep mentioning herbicides and 'toxic wast... Mar 17 2011, 02:54 AM
Cain QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Mar 16 2011, 07:54 PM... Mar 17 2011, 03:10 AM
Yerameyahu Again, no. There is a clear difference between rad... Mar 17 2011, 03:39 AM
CanRay You know, Alcohol is a Toxin (Or a drug, I can... Mar 17 2011, 03:46 AM
Bodak Spirits are not living subjects at all.
Would spi... Mar 17 2011, 03:46 AM
Cain QUOTE (Bodak @ Mar 16 2011, 07:46 PM) Spi... Mar 17 2011, 04:10 AM
Yerameyahu I don't believe vacuum is an issue for spirits... Mar 17 2011, 03:54 AM
Bodak I am referring explicitly to vacuum - nothing to d... Mar 17 2011, 04:21 AM
Yerameyahu It makes even less sense than a plant spirit being... Mar 17 2011, 04:27 AM
Cain QUOTE (Bodak @ Mar 16 2011, 09:21 PM) I a... Mar 17 2011, 04:52 AM
Bodak QUOTE (Cain @ Mar 17 2011, 02:52 PM) Ther... Mar 17 2011, 05:59 AM
Yerameyahu So, no? They certainly exist in the Sixth World, ... Mar 17 2011, 04:58 AM
Cain First, show me where it says they're immune to... Mar 17 2011, 07:01 AM
Ascalaphus QUOTE (Cain @ Mar 17 2011, 08:01 AM) Air ... Mar 17 2011, 10:25 AM
Bodak QUOTE (Cain @ Mar 17 2011, 06:01 PM) Air ... Mar 17 2011, 10:44 AM
Cain QUOTE (Bodak @ Mar 17 2011, 03:44 AM) No.... Mar 17 2011, 10:56 AM
Ascalaphus QUOTE (Cain @ Mar 17 2011, 11:56 AM) What... Mar 17 2011, 12:15 PM
Seth QUOTE I actually have never played an enjoyable ga... Mar 17 2011, 11:06 AM
Method This whole argument is silly. Does it say that fis... Mar 17 2011, 11:57 AM
Stahlseele It boils down to:
The rules don't say they are... Mar 17 2011, 12:28 PM
Method QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Mar 17 2011, 07:28 AM... Mar 17 2011, 01:07 PM
Seth QUOTE Either you accept that players can KO spirit... Mar 17 2011, 12:57 PM
Seth A decent street sam makes mince meat of most spiri... Mar 17 2011, 01:13 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Seth @ Mar 17 2011, 06:13 AM) A de... Mar 17 2011, 01:18 PM
Method Agreed. Mar 17 2011, 01:22 PM
phlapjack77 It's topics like this that have me adopting so... Mar 17 2011, 01:58 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (phlapjack77 @ Mar 17 2011, 06:58 A... Mar 17 2011, 02:04 PM
Yerameyahu At least give Voltaire credit when you quote him. ... Mar 17 2011, 02:22 PM
pbangarth This is the crux of the issue: biological damage ... Mar 17 2011, 02:36 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (pbangarth @ Mar 17 2011, 07:36 AM)... Mar 17 2011, 03:24 PM
KarmaInferno i generally go with "could it hurt a rock?... Mar 17 2011, 03:51 PM
Prime Mover QUOTE (KarmaInferno @ Mar 17 2011, 11:51 ... Mar 17 2011, 04:06 PM
Seth So the rules on spirits are fairly clear. Spirits ... Mar 17 2011, 04:20 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Seth @ Mar 17 2011, 10:20 AM) So t... Mar 17 2011, 04:22 PM
Seth QUOTE Except that Spirits are not really all that ... Mar 17 2011, 04:27 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Seth @ Mar 17 2011, 09:27 AM) I gu... Mar 17 2011, 06:39 PM
James McMurray If you're using SnS ammo as written even Force... Mar 17 2011, 06:43 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (James McMurray @ Mar 17 2011, 11:4... Mar 17 2011, 06:57 PM
James McMurray QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Mar 17 2011, 01... Mar 17 2011, 07:02 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (James McMurray @ Mar 17 2011, 01:0... Mar 17 2011, 08:16 PM
Seth I have never used stick and shock as I think it... Mar 17 2011, 08:04 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Seth @ Mar 17 2011, 02:04 PM) I ha... Mar 17 2011, 08:17 PM
Yerameyahu Yeah, but how many can soak the tons of stun? Bes... Mar 17 2011, 08:54 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Mar 17 2011, 02:54 PM... Mar 17 2011, 09:01 PM
Laodicea This is just another SnS vs. Spirits thread with a... Mar 18 2011, 04:19 PM
James McMurray QUOTE (Laodicea @ Mar 18 2011, 11:19 AM) ... Mar 18 2011, 04:23 PM
Ascalaphus QUOTE (Laodicea @ Mar 18 2011, 05:19 PM) ... Mar 18 2011, 04:38 PM
CanRay There's only one question I have about Spirits... Mar 18 2011, 06:33 PM
Cain The point of all this being, the rules are perfect... Mar 19 2011, 08:33 AM
James McMurray Immunity to Normal Weapons provides an armor ratin... Mar 19 2011, 10:50 AM
Yerameyahu Ditto. Mar 19 2011, 01:03 PM
Seth I think we covered this pretty properly up above. ... Mar 19 2011, 09:47 PM
Stahlseele Spirits don't have skin. No Organs. Nothing wh... Mar 19 2011, 09:52 PM
Yerameyahu Logic doesn't connect those statements. Mar 19 2011, 10:05 PM
Stahlseele because it's fucking magic.
magic tells you th... Mar 19 2011, 10:10 PM![]() ![]() |
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