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Sengir
post Mar 25 2011, 04:22 PM
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I'm sure other GMs know this problem as well, so maybe somebody else has found a good solution for it...

Assume the standard run, players have met Johnson, done the legwork, created a plan without any serious problems, and now the fun part is about to begin...and then the face's cover is blown at the reception desk, somebody triggers an alert while climbing over the outer perimeter fence, or something like that. A stupid mistake, but realistically it should blow the mission, thereby putting a swift end to what looked like a fun evening so far.
Obviously, that's not the point of playing RPGs. My solution so far has always been to "adjust" rolls if necessary, or skip the dice altogether in favor of storytelling. But that's not really satisfying, either, because a game has to allow failure. And writing a complete plan B for every mission (which remains unused most of the time) just is too time-consuming...besides the fact that an impromptu assault on a corp facility in full lockdown should be suicide.


So, anyone good a good approach how players can screw up completely, but don't ruin the evening?
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- Sengir   Dealing with failure   Mar 25 2011, 04:22 PM
- - Leehouse   I haven't really run into this(most botched ro...   Mar 25 2011, 04:31 PM
- - Ascalaphus   Well, stuff like this happens in movies all the ti...   Mar 25 2011, 04:35 PM
- - Summerstorm   Well, i am in the OTHER camp, there: Without the p...   Mar 25 2011, 04:38 PM
- - James McMurray   Let them fail. It's just that simple. Let them...   Mar 25 2011, 04:44 PM
- - capt.pantsless   QUOTE (Sengir @ Mar 25 2011, 10:22 AM) A ...   Mar 25 2011, 07:52 PM
- - Blog   Lets not forget. The face just botched and he kno...   Mar 25 2011, 08:21 PM
- - CanRay   The DUI Con is perfect. Splash a little vodka aro...   Mar 25 2011, 09:41 PM
|- - Xahn Borealis   QUOTE (CanRay @ Mar 25 2011, 10:41 PM) Th...   Apr 6 2011, 01:55 AM
- - Saint Sithney   Yeah, sometimes a run goes south and it's no o...   Mar 25 2011, 10:25 PM
- - kzt   Bad things happen. Sometimes they are set up to h...   Mar 25 2011, 10:36 PM
- - nezumi   Depends on the group. If it's a forgiving grou...   Mar 25 2011, 11:50 PM
- - noonesshowmonkey   First off, SR4A is really, really forgiving when i...   Mar 26 2011, 12:38 AM
- - CanRay   For a GM, there is no failure, only more potential...   Mar 26 2011, 01:43 AM
|- - Faraday   QUOTE (CanRay @ Mar 25 2011, 05:43 PM) Fo...   Mar 26 2011, 01:51 AM
|- - Troyminator   QUOTE (CanRay @ Mar 25 2011, 09:43 PM) Fo...   Apr 8 2011, 01:40 AM
- - CanRay   *Pouts* Someday I'll be a player...   Mar 26 2011, 01:57 AM
|- - ggodo   QUOTE (CanRay @ Mar 25 2011, 06:57 PM) *P...   Mar 26 2011, 02:05 AM
|- - Faraday   QUOTE (CanRay @ Mar 25 2011, 05:57 PM) *P...   Mar 26 2011, 04:26 AM
|- - Ryu   QUOTE (CanRay @ Mar 26 2011, 02:57 AM) *P...   Mar 26 2011, 06:51 PM
- - Glyph   I don't see a big problem with the run going b...   Mar 26 2011, 02:25 AM
- - Whipstitch   I'm sure I'm not the only GM whose had som...   Mar 26 2011, 02:40 AM
- - CanRay   "You ain't got no problem. I'm on the...   Mar 26 2011, 02:48 AM
- - Whipstitch   Nah, he wanted some good all-around 'ware. Mid...   Mar 26 2011, 02:57 AM
- - Red-ROM   One of my favorite runs I ever GM'ed, I had a ...   Mar 26 2011, 03:08 AM
- - Method   Others have basically covered this idea, but I...   Mar 26 2011, 07:16 AM
- - TheOOB   Sometimes runs fail. You should try to give the pl...   Mar 26 2011, 08:52 AM
|- - capt.pantsless   QUOTE (TheOOB @ Mar 26 2011, 03:52 AM) So...   Mar 26 2011, 01:10 PM
|- - Method   QUOTE (capt.pantsless @ Mar 26 2011, 08:1...   Mar 26 2011, 09:16 PM
|- - capt.pantsless   QUOTE (Method @ Mar 26 2011, 03:16 PM) Ho...   Mar 27 2011, 04:29 AM
|- - CanRay   QUOTE (Method @ Mar 26 2011, 04:16 PM) Ho...   Mar 27 2011, 04:34 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Nothing wrong with railroading. But, there's...   Mar 26 2011, 01:24 PM
- - Sengir   Sorry for not commenting on your replies, have bee...   Mar 27 2011, 07:37 PM
- - Yerameyahu   I still think screwing up, barely escaping, hiding...   Mar 27 2011, 07:44 PM
- - James McMurray   If the situation is such that there is only one re...   Mar 27 2011, 09:18 PM
|- - Sengir   QUOTE (James McMurray @ Mar 27 2011, 09:1...   Mar 27 2011, 09:29 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Well, 'his run'. Presumably, the players ...   Mar 27 2011, 09:22 PM
- - Belvidere   If the characters know they're going into a zo...   Mar 27 2011, 10:37 PM
- - CanRay   The first casualty is always The Plan.   Mar 28 2011, 12:00 AM
|- - Sengir   QUOTE (CanRay @ Mar 28 2011, 01:00 AM) Th...   Apr 6 2011, 12:24 PM
|- - CanRay   QUOTE (Sengir @ Apr 6 2011, 07:24 AM) Mor...   Apr 6 2011, 03:49 PM
- - Xahn Borealis   And cortex bombs to make sure.   Apr 6 2011, 03:58 PM
- - CanRay   OK, back with dealing with failure... Do you take...   Apr 6 2011, 04:40 PM
|- - Doc Chase   QUOTE (CanRay @ Apr 6 2011, 04:40 PM) OK,...   Apr 6 2011, 05:56 PM
|- - CanRay   QUOTE (Doc Chase @ Apr 6 2011, 12:56 PM) ...   Apr 6 2011, 06:00 PM
|- - Doc Chase   QUOTE (CanRay @ Apr 6 2011, 07:00 PM) Tha...   Apr 6 2011, 06:03 PM
- - CanRay   Right, because drugging a Tiger Shapechanger is SO...   Apr 6 2011, 06:04 PM
|- - Doc Chase   QUOTE (CanRay @ Apr 6 2011, 07:04 PM) Rig...   Apr 6 2011, 06:08 PM
- - Whipstitch   Tigers like water.   Apr 6 2011, 06:49 PM
|- - CanRay   QUOTE (Whipstitch @ Apr 6 2011, 01:49 PM)...   Apr 6 2011, 06:59 PM
- - Whipstitch   Maybe if you get them in the eyeball or something....   Apr 6 2011, 11:48 PM
- - CanRay   For some reason, there's a lack of Tigers in C...   Apr 6 2011, 11:52 PM
- - nezumi   And make him own a china shop! And maybe he do...   Apr 7 2011, 12:50 PM


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