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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,092 Joined: 3-October 09 From: Kohle, Stahl und Bier Member No.: 17,709 |
I'm sure other GMs know this problem as well, so maybe somebody else has found a good solution for it...
Assume the standard run, players have met Johnson, done the legwork, created a plan without any serious problems, and now the fun part is about to begin...and then the face's cover is blown at the reception desk, somebody triggers an alert while climbing over the outer perimeter fence, or something like that. A stupid mistake, but realistically it should blow the mission, thereby putting a swift end to what looked like a fun evening so far. Obviously, that's not the point of playing RPGs. My solution so far has always been to "adjust" rolls if necessary, or skip the dice altogether in favor of storytelling. But that's not really satisfying, either, because a game has to allow failure. And writing a complete plan B for every mission (which remains unused most of the time) just is too time-consuming...besides the fact that an impromptu assault on a corp facility in full lockdown should be suicide. So, anyone good a good approach how players can screw up completely, but don't ruin the evening? |
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Sengir Dealing with failure Mar 25 2011, 04:22 PM
Leehouse I haven't really run into this(most botched ro... Mar 25 2011, 04:31 PM
Ascalaphus Well, stuff like this happens in movies all the ti... Mar 25 2011, 04:35 PM
Summerstorm Well, i am in the OTHER camp, there: Without the p... Mar 25 2011, 04:38 PM
James McMurray Let them fail. It's just that simple. Let them... Mar 25 2011, 04:44 PM
capt.pantsless QUOTE (Sengir @ Mar 25 2011, 10:22 AM) A ... Mar 25 2011, 07:52 PM
Blog Lets not forget. The face just botched and he kno... Mar 25 2011, 08:21 PM
CanRay The DUI Con is perfect. Splash a little vodka aro... Mar 25 2011, 09:41 PM
Xahn Borealis QUOTE (CanRay @ Mar 25 2011, 10:41 PM) Th... Apr 6 2011, 01:55 AM
Saint Sithney Yeah, sometimes a run goes south and it's no o... Mar 25 2011, 10:25 PM
kzt Bad things happen. Sometimes they are set up to h... Mar 25 2011, 10:36 PM
nezumi Depends on the group. If it's a forgiving grou... Mar 25 2011, 11:50 PM
noonesshowmonkey First off, SR4A is really, really forgiving when i... Mar 26 2011, 12:38 AM
CanRay For a GM, there is no failure, only more potential... Mar 26 2011, 01:43 AM
Faraday QUOTE (CanRay @ Mar 25 2011, 05:43 PM) Fo... Mar 26 2011, 01:51 AM
Troyminator QUOTE (CanRay @ Mar 25 2011, 09:43 PM) Fo... Apr 8 2011, 01:40 AM
CanRay *Pouts* Someday I'll be a player... Mar 26 2011, 01:57 AM
ggodo QUOTE (CanRay @ Mar 25 2011, 06:57 PM) *P... Mar 26 2011, 02:05 AM
Faraday QUOTE (CanRay @ Mar 25 2011, 05:57 PM) *P... Mar 26 2011, 04:26 AM
Ryu QUOTE (CanRay @ Mar 26 2011, 02:57 AM) *P... Mar 26 2011, 06:51 PM
Glyph I don't see a big problem with the run going b... Mar 26 2011, 02:25 AM
Whipstitch I'm sure I'm not the only GM whose had som... Mar 26 2011, 02:40 AM
CanRay "You ain't got no problem. I'm on the... Mar 26 2011, 02:48 AM
Whipstitch Nah, he wanted some good all-around 'ware. Mid... Mar 26 2011, 02:57 AM
Red-ROM One of my favorite runs I ever GM'ed,
I had a ... Mar 26 2011, 03:08 AM
Method Others have basically covered this idea, but I... Mar 26 2011, 07:16 AM
TheOOB Sometimes runs fail. You should try to give the pl... Mar 26 2011, 08:52 AM
capt.pantsless QUOTE (TheOOB @ Mar 26 2011, 03:52 AM) So... Mar 26 2011, 01:10 PM
Method QUOTE (capt.pantsless @ Mar 26 2011, 08:1... Mar 26 2011, 09:16 PM
capt.pantsless QUOTE (Method @ Mar 26 2011, 03:16 PM) Ho... Mar 27 2011, 04:29 AM
CanRay QUOTE (Method @ Mar 26 2011, 04:16 PM) Ho... Mar 27 2011, 04:34 AM
Yerameyahu Nothing wrong with railroading.
But, there's... Mar 26 2011, 01:24 PM
Sengir Sorry for not commenting on your replies, have bee... Mar 27 2011, 07:37 PM
Yerameyahu I still think screwing up, barely escaping, hiding... Mar 27 2011, 07:44 PM
James McMurray If the situation is such that there is only one re... Mar 27 2011, 09:18 PM
Sengir QUOTE (James McMurray @ Mar 27 2011, 09:1... Mar 27 2011, 09:29 PM
Yerameyahu Well, 'his run'. Presumably, the players ... Mar 27 2011, 09:22 PM
Belvidere If the characters know they're going into a zo... Mar 27 2011, 10:37 PM
CanRay The first casualty is always The Plan. Mar 28 2011, 12:00 AM
Sengir QUOTE (CanRay @ Mar 28 2011, 01:00 AM) Th... Apr 6 2011, 12:24 PM
CanRay QUOTE (Sengir @ Apr 6 2011, 07:24 AM) Mor... Apr 6 2011, 03:49 PM
Xahn Borealis And cortex bombs to make sure. Apr 6 2011, 03:58 PM
CanRay OK, back with dealing with failure... Do you take... Apr 6 2011, 04:40 PM
Doc Chase QUOTE (CanRay @ Apr 6 2011, 04:40 PM) OK,... Apr 6 2011, 05:56 PM
CanRay QUOTE (Doc Chase @ Apr 6 2011, 12:56 PM) ... Apr 6 2011, 06:00 PM
Doc Chase QUOTE (CanRay @ Apr 6 2011, 07:00 PM) Tha... Apr 6 2011, 06:03 PM
CanRay Right, because drugging a Tiger Shapechanger is SO... Apr 6 2011, 06:04 PM
Doc Chase QUOTE (CanRay @ Apr 6 2011, 07:04 PM) Rig... Apr 6 2011, 06:08 PM
Whipstitch Tigers like water. Apr 6 2011, 06:49 PM
CanRay QUOTE (Whipstitch @ Apr 6 2011, 01:49 PM)... Apr 6 2011, 06:59 PM
Whipstitch Maybe if you get them in the eyeball or something.... Apr 6 2011, 11:48 PM
CanRay For some reason, there's a lack of Tigers in C... Apr 6 2011, 11:52 PM
nezumi And make him own a china shop! And maybe he do... Apr 7 2011, 12:50 PM![]() ![]() |
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